Canada: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
 

Alrighty then.....


Since some have complained about my comments in regards to the US administration and specifically G.W. I've decided to allow you guys to get those burning comments about the Great White North out there;) The Good is for what you believe is good about the people or country; The Bad is for what you see wrong (serious); The Ugly is for the not-so serious stuff you feel is wrong.

So lets keep it simple, short and civil people...... and just to be a good sport I'll get it rolling.


The Good :
- The international perspective most media outlets maintain.
- Our "liberal" view of arts (the rippers, legal to walk topless down any street in Toronto).
- The beer, no explanation necessary :)
- Hockey (again no explantion needed)

The Bad:
- Lack of knowledge about our past, history is important.
- Anti-militarism of the general populace; you want the military to be peacekeeps, but you don't want to equip the military.
- Our treatment of the Natives; if you marginalize a people, you only breed anger and resentment.
- the growing sensationialism of politics; start worry about the issue, not your image.

The Ugly:
- The majority of Canadian movies or TV shows.... damn, get some production skills.
- The hockey-mullet, yes I had one too.... but that was 2 decades ago people.

Re: Canada: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
 

I agree! Seriously...what is wrong with Canadian productions? I just don't understand.


Except for Degrassi...All time best Canadian show!

I'm sorry, but I just don't get Kids in The Hall.....it's just not funny to me.

Quebec moved to Denver and won two Stanley Cups......Thanks

I wish our end zones were 10 yds deeper like Canada's

We should have two teams with the same name, like the Rough Riders and the RoughRiders

Can anyone explain a "rogue"?

The Good:

I love Banff!


The Bad:

Nothing serious.

The Ugly:
(The Ugly is for the not-so serious stuff you feel is wrong.)

Since Canada usually has an "also ran" role (if any role at all) in international affairs or politics, it is hard to take Canadian complaints about American policy serious. (Don't flame me, it's a joke)

What's up with the price of Alcohol?

All the Canadians who come to the states for health care... GO HOME. Get on a waiting list for socialized medicine. Sheeesh, you deserve it!

Remember, these are not serious... I really don't have anything bad to say about our good neighbors to the North.

Kids in the Hall - its a very cultural specific I guess, and very Torontoian at that. Most Canadian humor is a cross between British and American humor.

Rogue - it's a word of French origin meaning tramp, thief, someone that behaves counter to society.

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The Good
*http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmili...py/grlaugh.gif I totally agree! (I've been watching the show ever since it was called DeGrassi Jr High!:p

*Michael J Fox

The bad
Bryan Adams--need I say more?

It's the taxes that get you..... those are the taxes that pay for the socialized health care ;)

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But don't forget the original...The Kids of Degrassi St.

All I would like to add to this thread:

I love Kids in the Hall, but no one else I know appreciates it. I guess I just have an international sense of humor! :D


RACooper, I would like to assure you that Canadians weren't the only ones afflicted by the hockey mullet. We had them here, too. Sadly, they're still considered by many in my town to be a viable styling option :(

No no, a rougue in Canadian football. The one that's worth one point. How does it work?

I love the Kids in the Hall too, and I've never been anywhere near Toronto. I've been to Canada once, and was a 2 day trip to Vancouver. I frequently joke about emmigrating to Canada, and though I know I won't, I'd like to go back for another visit someday.

oh.....

Okay, this is from the CFL website:
>>If the ball is kicked into the goal area by an opponent, a rouge is scored (1) when the ball becomes dead in possession of a team in its own goal area or (2) when the ball touches or crosses the deadline, or a side-line-in-goal, and touches the ground, a player, or some object beyond these lines.<<

hope this helps

Kick the ball through the end zone.

I don't understand what bethany is talking about healthcare, can you back some facts on that?

I believe she is refering to people that go to the US for immediate treatment, instead of waiting for it up here. For example it may take a couple of weeks for treatment here in Toronto, but if you head to New York and drop the cash you'll get immediate treatment.

Thanks.....that kinda helped....so, if the offense fumbles the ball, I, as a defender, can kick it into their end zone, fall on it, and that's a point?

I said those things were not serious.

... eh?

LOL I like Canadians, taste like chicken, tee-hee ;)

I learned something from my backpack experience in Europe this past summer, that people LOVE Canadians and HATE Americans.
If you have some Canadian flags/shirts/patches, they always greet you with hospitality and somewhat nicer than to Americans. One time in Munich, one of my friend wore a Canadian shirt, and people just treated us differently than before. Oops. Really didn't mean to betray our country, but sometimes it is nice to be treated nicely, you know.

Canada is a peaceful country and people are friendly. I experienced this first hand when I visited Canada in several different times: Montreal, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto, Winnipeg.

We crossed Canadian border September 17, 2001, only six days after 9/11. The customs symphatized us, and gave the whole van little Canadian flags with white ribbon attached. That is nice of them.
Then we went to a bar in downtown Winnipeg (something with "Jack", like Old Jack or something), and as soon as they knew that we were Americans, they played "American Pie" song for us, and everyone cheered for us.

When we were at Winnipeg, we saw police patrol with horses, and weird looking outfit. I think that's funny, and it seems that they tried to copy British soldiers.

I think it must be awkward to have everything written in two languages: all signs, markers, even food packaging. I always laughed when I saw some English/Spanish written in Californian signs, and not until I saw signs with English/French I realized California is not the only weirdo out there. :D

Anyway, good job Canada. Peace out!

That's probably because Canada is the only country that France could beat in a game of war.

Stan-
If, in war, the USA is Div I-A
Canada is in Div I-AA
France is NAIA

PS Dont bring up 1812, times have changed.

Ummm wow....you know, mountie regalia became standard during the gold rush (North West Mounted Police) to keep yankee drifters from sifting into Canada

- oh canada, it's true!

That wasn't a snide remark, i was asking if this was a new phenomenon....i've never heard anyone say this before.

Hey, it's not our fault we've been going in wars lead by the super-pussy British (think Boer War, WW1, WW2). We've held our own when we haven't been in their command.

Stan, the extra point is only for the kicker. Example, for an attempted field goal or punt. If you recovered the ball in their endzone, wouldn't you jump on it for a touchdown instead?

I've only got good to say here... (from living in the Detroit area my whole life)

As for TV productions, I grew up on The Green Giant, Mr. Dressup, and Bozo.. all filmed in Windsor.

The coverage of the Olympics is far better on CBC than it is in the US. They are less biased and show more variety of events. In the US, you only see the things we're good at. How else does a person learn about curling and dressage?

"Abowt" "Hahckey".. I love the accent!

Makes you feel rich when you exchange your US dollars for Canadian!

Much lower prescription drug costs.. many are crossing the border to get their meds these days.

The French Chinese restaurant I went to in Windsor.. imagine my surprise to find the fortune in my fortune cookie was in French on one side and English on the other! How totally awesome is that?

(As far as health care, here in the good ole' USA, I had to wait 7 weeks to get in to see a specialist when I was dehydrated, anemic and losing 2 1/2 pounds a week for 5 months, so I don't think they have it any worse than we do!)

I wouldn't want any country OTHER than Canada to be our northern neighbors!

Dee

Exactly. Hence I still don't understand how the rougue works. I need an example I can visualize. Are rougues scored on 3rd down plays like FGs are or what?

Stan-
Notice I didn't say "4TH" down.

The Rouge is actually a defensive play, if you can't get the ball out of your endzone, you take a one point hit as opposed to recovery by the offense for a touchdown. basically if there is a scramble in the endzone where possession is up for grabs, you would kick the ball out of the endzone and give up a point, or fight for possession and possibly give up 6. If the liklyhood of you making it out of the endzone is slim to none, than kicking the ball out is the best option, cause even if the ball is recovered if you don't make it out then you give up one point.

The Good:

• Coffee crisp candy bars
• Cute boys with cuter accents who at least have the decency to play it off when they're ogling a girl
• Gay marriages
• Curling
• Rex Murphy
• The CBC
• Ian Hanomansing (rrowr!)
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The Bad:

• Knee-jerk, uninformed anti-Americanism
• Global National
• The National Post and anyone who writes for that toerag

The Ugly:

• Sky King helicopters
• The conditions that most aboriginal Canadians live in
• Vancouver's Downtown Eastside

hmmmm no shit, i thought if the offensive team kicked the ball through the endzone on a punt it would result in an extra point. A reward for the poor punter who can boot the shit out of a ball.

Wile we might have difficulty with our "O"'s :), I've never heard a Canadian pronounce hockey like "hahckey". I have however heard several of our souther neighbours pronounce it like that, especially in Wisconsin.

The good:

"O Canada, our home and native land..." Much easier to sing than the "Star Spangled Banner", whose melody originated from a drinking song.

The bad: It's f'in cold up there in the winter! :)

Thats true to---if a punter kicks the ball through the endzone than a point is awarded. Same if the momentum of a kick pushes the reciever into the endzone and he can't get out, that results in a Rouge as well. The team who takes the one point hit, gets the ball at the 35yrd line, so sometimes it is the best option to advance the ball.

I always feel bad for Americans when they have to sing "Star Spangled Banner" because it totally not made for an average voice.


The good:

This Hour has 22 minutes
Globe and Mail
Ottawa

The bad:

Made in Canada
The Toronto Sun
Brantford

The Ugly:

Train 48
The National Post
Lobo (there's the middle of nowhere, then there's Lobo)

I'm a doofus. Ignore this.

The Good:
*Tim Horton's (and living right next door to one... oh wait, maybe that's bad...)
*Mint Aero bars
*prescription drug costs
*lots of snow!

The Bad:
*sub-arctic temperatures in the winter

The Ugly:
*Québecois rap
*Celine Dion

I thank my Canadian neighbors 6 years ago for introducing me to the wonderful sport of ice hockey :D

Don't have anything against Canada really except Celine Dion - her voice makes me want to tear my own arm off just to have something to beat her with

.......this thread just reminded me of The Whole Nine Yards when Bruce Willis gets pissed off at the waitress for putting Mayo on his hamburger. HAHA....ok I'm over it.....

The Good:

* Tim Horton's (for sure!)
* Hockey (especially outdoors...there's nothing like an 8am game outside in the dead of winter to wake you up)
* The Tragically Hip
* Universal Health care (even though I have to wait forever...being a diabetic I don't have the money to be treated in the US)

The Bad:

* The Liberals and the new Conservative party

The Ugly:

* The Quebecois
* The dollar (even though it's at the best it's been in 10 years)
* letting large American corporations invade (Mr. Walton...you can take Sam's club and just leave...Walmart is enough thank you...and even that's too much!)

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Okay, is that Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas doing the voices of the moose in the new Disney movie "Brother Bear"? I swear it is, but my husband is doubtful.

If it is them, they're the only reason I want to see the movie.

I have friends in Canada who have come to the states for medical treatment because they did not want to wait on a list for the procedure. These friends have told me their friends do the same. I have never researched the issue. Every now and then, I have seen a news report on the subject. I didn't want my comments to offend. I meant them as jokes... all except the high price of alcohol... makes me want to drink water. I really love Canada... lol!

Hey I loved Made in Canada.... if you get a chance watch the episode were a hollywood director comes up to film the war of 1812 ("red coats?, that's so last year, I was thinking more of a teal with some gold and pink highlights.")

I totally forgot about Train 48; how the hell does that thing stay on the air.... it's so bad I have honestly stopped taking the GO train (well that and the late nights;) )

Hey now... you guys inflicted more than your share on us.... Billy Ray Cirus (and the hair), or Michael Bolton (again the hair).

It's because of CanCon. That's why these crappy shows stay on the air.

eeeehhhhhhhhhhh :cool: