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valkyrie 10-28-2002 01:28 PM

kissing girls...
 
Okay, so I just watched the movie "Kissing Jessica Stein" last night, and it really got me thinking. For those who haven't seen it, in short, it's a cute little movie about a young, successful, attractive (yes, feminine) woman who, after becoming frustrated with the dating scene due to her experiences with shady men, answers a "woman seeking woman" ad in the paper. What follows is a touching but frustrating romance between her and another successful, attractive (yes, feminine) woman. Neither woman had any previous lesbian relationships.

Questions:

Have you seen the movie? If so, what did you think about it? Do you think it's realistic, or do you think that stuff like this never happens in "real" life?

If you are a woman, would you ever consider it -- I mean, getting involved in a romantic relationship with another woman? Before you just jump right out and say "no way" as I suspect many of you will, what if it just sort of, well, happened? In the movie, Jessica answered the ad because the woman who placed it used a quote that really spoke to her (and it was a "friendship or more? ad). It was VERY clear at their first meeting that Jessica was COMPLETELY weirded out and tried to leave but couldn't get a cab. She was VERY uncomfortable with the whole idea...but yet it ended up happening. She had never done anything "like this" before, and apparently had never even THOUGHT about it.

What do you think? I hope that we can have a mature discussion... :)

madmax 10-28-2002 03:35 PM

Re: kissing girls...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Okay, so I just watched the movie "Kissing Jessica Stein" last night, and it really got me thinking. For those who haven't seen it, in short, it's a cute little movie about a young, successful, attractive (yes, feminine) woman who, after becoming frustrated with the dating scene due to her experiences with shady men, answers a "woman seeking woman" ad in the paper. What follows is a touching but frustrating romance between her and another successful, attractive (yes, feminine) woman. Neither woman had any previous lesbian relationships.

Questions:

Have you seen the movie? If so, what did you think about it? Do you think it's realistic, or do you think that stuff like this never happens in "real" life?

If you are a woman, would you ever consider it -- I mean, getting involved in a romantic relationship with another woman? Before you just jump right out and say "no way" as I suspect many of you will, what if it just sort of, well, happened? In the movie, Jessica answered the ad because the woman who placed it used a quote that really spoke to her (and it was a "friendship or more? ad). It was VERY clear at their first meeting that Jessica was COMPLETELY weirded out and tried to leave but couldn't get a cab. She was VERY uncomfortable with the whole idea...but yet it ended up happening. She had never done anything "like this" before, and apparently had never even THOUGHT about it.

What do you think? I hope that we can have a mature discussion... :)

Is sounds like you are getting ready to switch teams.

33girl 10-28-2002 03:53 PM

warning: sweeping generalizations ahead!
 
From what I have observed, a woman will be able to "switch teams" because she feels an emotional connection, more than a man will. I think women can get past the physical aspect more....whether this is our society or our physiology, I'm not sure.

That is, I've heard of a lot more women who've gotten fed up with men and started relationships w/ women, then the other way around.

Dionysus 10-28-2002 04:45 PM

D*mn 100 views and only two replies.

Guess I'll have to break the ice here.

Yes! Out of CURIOUSITY, I would try it. And, she'll have to be a girly girl.

I thought the same thing madmax. :D

AlphaSigLana 10-28-2002 05:05 PM

Well let me tell you after listening to my guy friends laugh hysterically every time they fart, I'm about ready to switch to the other side. I've thought about what it would be like to kiss another girl, but when it came down to it I couldn't do it unless i was extremely plastered. I'm too attracted to men.

valkyrie 10-28-2002 05:31 PM

LOL you guys! I'm not switching teams...I just thought it would be an interesting discussion.

For the record, though, I *have* kissed girls. Just kissing, that's it. I don't think I would ever do more, but I guess you never know. The whole point of the movie was that Jessica had never been attracted to women before, but something just made her respond to the ad. Boys are nice, when you find a good one. ;)

Dionysus 10-28-2002 05:36 PM

Dionysus' theory of sexual orientation.
 
Hetrosexuality and homosexuality is relative, not absolute. NO ONE can be 100% hetero nor 100% homo. The straightest person has a little homo in them and the gayest person has a little hetero in them. What classifies is what you ACT out on.

AlphaSigLana 10-28-2002 05:48 PM

Dionysus-- AGREED!

Rio_Kohitsuji 10-28-2002 06:45 PM

Hmm...I'd have to decline on the girl-on-girl deal. They have way too much emotional baggage for me to handle, hell, I can hardly handle myself at times! Plus, I like for the attention to be on me, not some other chick, lol! I'm strictly dickly :D

swissmiss04 10-28-2002 08:02 PM

Not to be crude, but a quote from my friend Courtney pretty much sums up my feelings:
"I would be a lesbian, but I crave the d*ck too much."

KillarneyRose 10-28-2002 09:08 PM

To quote fellow Western Pennsylvania gal Sharon Stone, "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that schwing " :D

James 10-28-2002 09:11 PM

That is funny .. . :D


Quote:

Originally posted by swissmiss04
Not to be crude, but a quote from my friend Courtney pretty much sums up my feelings:
"I would be a lesbian, but I crave the d*ck too much."


James 10-28-2002 09:12 PM

Thank you for your honesty. That is something to respect.

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
LOL you guys! I'm not switching teams...I just thought it would be an interesting discussion.

For the record, though, I *have* kissed girls. Just kissing, that's it. I don't think I would ever do more, but I guess you never know. The whole point of the movie was that Jessica had never been attracted to women before, but something just made her respond to the ad. Boys are nice, when you find a good one. ;)


IowaHawkeye 10-28-2002 09:25 PM

yes i've kissed a girl... or two :cool: it doesn't take much to get the bartenders of Iowa City to give you free drinks all night ;):p

And who hasn't joked to their girlfriends/sorority sisters: "I've had it with men, they're all ignorant, mean, unemotional, (insert adjective here) jerks! I'm going lesbain!"

Honestly I do like guys too much to switch teams - and after going to an all-female high school with 2,000 other women, believe me i know, women can drive you just as crazy!

valkyrie 10-28-2002 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaHawkeye
yes i've kissed a girl... or two :cool: it doesn't take much to get the bartenders of Iowa City to give you free drinks all night ;):p

Haha!!! That's it exactly. It is amazing the power you have over men if you are a woman kissing another woman. ;)

UF_PikePC98 10-28-2002 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by h2oot
Uh...I've never had a desire to kiss another girl and never have other than on the cheek.


I had a girlfriend once who thought I was cheating on her, she was right, and decided to defame my stud status by humiliating me in public.

One night we went to this popular club in Gainesville, whos who in G-ville went to this place. The promoters knew me, the club owner knew me as well as most of the employees and countless patrons. My now ex-lady decided to get me back for her suspected two timeness by me. So, what did she do? While we were up on stage, in VIP and where MANY people saw.....she grabbed one of her sisters/ best friend and made out with her in front of me and everyone. I yanked her away and immediately started bitching her out.

Her reply: "I thought you liked that kind of stuff, sweety." I was like...."Bitch, not in front of everyone in this town!"

Naturally all my guy friends were wanting me to throw an after-party later on since they thought the rest of her sisters did crapp like that. It pissed me off!!

After telling her a$$ to get the fu*k downstairs, I decided to get her back. What did I do? i told myself, the next blonde that comes my way and grabbs me, i'm going to let her do what she wants.

Less than 60 seconds after that....a blue eyed, blonde babe from above came walking my way. She came up to me and grabbed me. (My girlfriend was looking right at me). The chick then gropped me and licked the side of my neck. I looked at her, smiled and said..."Do that again" so she did it again....then I said one more time.....This time she got a little too frinedly and yanked on my $hit while sticking her tongue in my ear......By now my girlfirned was steaming and came flying across the room like a bat out of hell, tearing at the innnocent chick. The girl was like, " Whos that?" I said, "My girlfriend"..

She smiled and did it again while the bouncers tried to keep my chick from making a scene...(which was pointless because she already did.)

Anyhow it was not the best of time when we got back in my car driving to my place. Luckily I got out of it all by using her make out with her sister as reason why my actions were acceptable.

Anyways, i'm glad you haven't kissed another chick. I can't stand it when hot girls do it to one another unless they're trashy strippers.

Hootie 10-28-2002 10:35 PM

Funny you should ask this question!
My former boss in Austin had been previously married (twice) and after forming a friendship with a lesbian, decided to for a romantic relationship with her.

I got to hear all about it every day! It wasn't the physical, but the "I think she's going back to her ex" and "How can I win her over again" stuff.

It was very interesting because my boss said it just sorta happened. It wasn't like she'd ever dated a woman, but this woman brought her a sense of happiness she hadn't known from her previous relationships. Although things are sorta on the out right now, my boss said she still cares for this woman and is hoping to get things to work out....

sororitygirl2 10-29-2002 12:10 AM

I could never have a relationship with another girl and I have never kissed one either... well, not more than a friendly peck anyway.

I am way too into boys for that...

James 10-29-2002 02:24 AM

Isn't that just another way to say: Homophobic lol?

Quote:

Originally posted by sororitygirl2
I could never have a relationship with another girl and I have never kissed one either... well, not more than a friendly peck anyway.

I am way too into boys for that...


swissmiss04 10-29-2002 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sororitygirl2
I could never have a relationship with another girl and I have never kissed one either... well, not more than a friendly peck anyway.

I am way too into boys for that...


Or boys or just way into you....sorry I couldn't help myself....

FHwku 10-29-2002 04:30 AM

kissing girls...
 
is fun.


*for everyone.

sororitygirl2 10-29-2002 09:34 AM

NO -- IT IS NOT ANOTHER WAY TO SAY HOMOPHOBIC!!!

I just meant that I enjoy looking at and hanging out with attractive men, whereas I do not get any enjoyment from females, no matter how beautiful they are.

Whatever, James... :rolleyes:

ilovemyglo 10-29-2002 11:33 AM

I love men, period, but I have kissed a girl. Her boyfriend and I had a thing (I didn't know he had a girlfriend) and we were all hanging out. We were trashed at a bar and some guys offered to buy our drinks all night long if we kissed (plus pay our already $80 tab!) so we did. She is really pretty and it wasn't like it turned my on, hell I have kissed uglier guys than her!

Optimist Prime 10-29-2002 02:12 PM

Chicks make out to get free drinks and $80 bar tabs. That is so sexist. Two guys couldn't even get one half priced pitcher for anything from girls.

librasoul22 10-29-2002 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Chicks make out to get free drinks and $80 bar tabs. That is so sexist. Two guys couldn't even get one half priced pitcher for anything from girls.
LOL! That is not sexist! You need to talk to your fellow men and tell them to stop drooling and paying for stuff. It's THEIR fault! :D

If two men kiss, I would yawn. My roomate is gay so I see it all the time.

ilovemyglo 10-29-2002 05:30 PM

depends on what bar you go to.. some that i have been to with some friends of mine would give free drinks to the guys, if they were kissing the bartendars (male bartendars here!)

Dionysus 10-29-2002 05:49 PM

Valkyrie:
"For the record, though, I *have* kissed girls. Just kissing, that's it. I don't think I
would ever do more, but I guess you never know."

+

IowaHawkeye:
"yes i've kissed a girl... or two it doesn't take much to get the bartenders of
Iowa City to give you free drinks all night."

=

Valkyrie & IowaHawkeye
http://plaudersmilies.de/remykiss.gif







Just messing w/ you two. :D

guardian_angel! 10-29-2002 07:18 PM

This site goes perfect with this thread. Can anyone find the gc'er???

http://dreamsource.de/pics/kisspics/

Optimist Prime 10-30-2002 12:53 AM

I know one of them. NOt from gC though.

RubberSoul 10-30-2002 02:46 PM

I love men. Love them. Couldn't go without them. Never will. But I too have kissed girls...and I loved it. My thing is, though, she's got to be VERY feminine and VERY pretty. I have very strict standards.....actually I think my standards for female attractiveness are much stricter than for men. I can't stand the fake crap.

Gotta say, there is a LOT of power in the girl/girl thing where guys are concerned. You can get free drinks, etc. but I think that is so wrong. Now, using it to turn on the man you're with, if he likes that (and most men do it seems) is fine. Want to make your man insane and have the most incredible wild monkey sex ever? Go to a strip club with your man. Get him to buy you lap dances. Dress sexy but classy when you go...look hot but totally different from the strippers...walk up to the stage area and have all the men in the place drooling as you slip a fiver into one of the dancers' garter. The last time we did this, one of the strippers (the prettiest one in the place) came over to me and asked me if I wanted to go to the bathroom with her. My hubby's jaw nearly hit the floor (as did every guy within listening radius.) She took my hand and held it all the way to the bathroom......she was actually very sweet, she just wanted to chat and we were talking about our kids (she had just had a baby SEVEN WEEKS before, I wanted to kill her!!!!!!!) and she invited us to go out with her and her friends when her shift was over. (We didn't.) Mindless fun. Of course, I am one of those gals who goes out with the guys and sits around drinking beer and smoking stogies and talking about fun stuff, so maybe I am not normal....but I am also the girliest girl you can ever meet. Who knows? But I knew a lot of girls who fooled around with other girls in the greek system at my school, and they were all very feminine, very pretty, and LOVED men.

KappaTarzan 11-09-2002 03:38 PM

i personally have never been attracted to woman, but i agreed that no one is 100% one way... i personally am strongly attracted to men, so i'm not sure if i could ever go to women.. i don't think so but you enver know :)

SilverTurtle 11-09-2002 05:07 PM

You won't find me involved in a relationship (physical, emotional, etc.) with another woman. It just doesn't feel right. Plus I've been happy with my boyfriend of 5 years. :) And to be honest, I'm one of those girls that always had more guy friends, I find hanging out with girls a lot kind of annoying, etc. So I can't imagine any kind of romantic pairing where I'd spend long amounts of time with a woman. LOL!

Now, I have kissed other girls (friends) for some of the reasons listed previosly (namely, free drinks) knowing that it wouldn't ever go any further.

I was at a Halloween party a couple weeks ago. It was a gay party. There were about 5 straight people there including myself. As the night progressed, one these allegedly gay men asked my friend and I if we were a couple. We told him no, we're both straight, and my friend was there with her boyfried. So awhile later this guy decides we (my friend and I) should kiss. We were like "no" (I mean, it wasn't like we weren't already getting all the free drinks we wanted!) and he just kept pushing the subject. So my friend says something like "If I won't do it for a straight man what makes you think I'd do it for a gay one?" And then I chimed in with something about gay men weren't even suppossed to like lesbians. Then the guy got pissed and left as alone. But it was way weirder than when straight guys are trying to get 2 girls to kiss.

aprilxo 11-09-2002 05:11 PM

You know, I will admit to finding some women attractive. Not in the man-I-want-her way, but "WOW--she's really good looking." Haven't ever kissed any of them--but it's fun to joke about with the boys, let them wonder if we really do have those nakie pillow fights in our house tee hee...

HotDamnImAPhiMu 11-09-2002 11:53 PM

Hahaha, I swear they think that we do!

Do you all think it's cheating if you've got a boyfriend and you kiss a girl?

Kevin 11-10-2002 12:00 AM

Personally I'd not call it cheating... not exactly... Especially if I'm there and encouraging it:D

It would depend on the relationship though. If I really cared I don't think I'd encourage it because I've seen perfectly good relationships ruined by issues stirred up by this (one marriage even).

aprilxo 11-10-2002 12:04 AM

I dunno, but I feel a potential double standard brewing! lol

I'd say it's "cheating"--but if one's guy doesn't care if ya kiss another chick then it wouldn't be a big deal. I think that if he doesn't care about kissing chicks he shouldn't care about kissing other guys though. If he cares then yeah it's cheating, if not then no.

Then I think that as long as it's all or nothing (not discriminating between it being ok to kiss guys or girls), then I'd say it's fair and people can/will do whatever they want *shrug*

wreckingcrew 11-10-2002 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hootie
Funny you should ask this question!
My former boss in Austin had been previously married (twice) and after forming a friendship with a lesbian, decided to for a romantic relationship with her.


That's Austin for you ;)

Just playin Hootie and all the Austinites in the crowd. :D

Kitso
KS 361 drinks guys buy for kissing girls in bars

AngelPhiSig 11-10-2002 09:45 AM

Kissing girls... Ive kissed friends on the lips - just cos thats how I was raised, kiss family on the lips, kiss friends on the lips... guys and girls - although dont kiss guys with girl friends on the lips!

Now Clarion is in the PA Bible belt... and they have a problem with gays, but not so much that there arent a million and a half gay men here (yea, sucks to be a single female whos friends with them all!) But there arent that many "out" lesbians here... and you also dont every see two straight girls kissing at the bar for drinks... I think its weird that two guys being together is more accepted than two women... and that its not equal... double standards are a bitch!

shultzz 11-11-2002 02:37 PM

Enough of the kissing stories. Which of you girls has gone all the way? I am picturing a pillow fight. One thing leads to another and baboom.

sororitygirl2 11-11-2002 10:43 PM

I will be honest... I've seen my friends participate in a naked pillowfight or two! But that is all they did... they just thought it was a funny joke.


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