Drug Arrests!!!!
 

I can't stand this crapp!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:


This is the second time in 3 years that buddies of mine got busted in Gainesville by another one of our friends who was stupid and got caught......then turned rat......

All I gotta say is "his" a$$ better not go to Miami....He can't hide in this state.

He's, the rat, now brought heat to the Sig Ep house because of this!


Below is the latest bust of some buddies......The next is the bust of 5 of my very close friends 3 years ago.....


http://gainesvillesun.com/apps/pbcs....0180360&Ref=AR


From article 6 on are all about my friends. You can click each individual article and then find more articles in sub-categories.

I'm posting this so that some of you who know people selling drugs, can show them that our kind of people DO GET CAUGHT! Another bad thing is that "other" things come to light once you get busted.

One of my best friends....Juan Carlos Asse "Carly" is the one who got 7 years in prison. The rest got lighter sentences.

Here are the links....

#6
Alleged ecstasy ring members are sent back to jail for numerous rape charges

#7
m.asse gets probation for lying to grand jury in drug case against his brother
asse, marcos afi

#8
I-75 traffic stop yields $500,000 in ecstasy and cocaine
torres, albert

#9
b.worthington sentenced to 4 years for role in ecstasy ring (picture)
worthington, brent

#10
j.asse sentenced to 7 years for ecstasy distribution (picture)
asse, juan carlos "carly"

#11
j.lumley-anthony, o.khan sentenced to prison terms for ecstasy distribution (picture)
lumley-anthony, jason

#12
b.boate gets 2 years, b.ray gets probation in ecstasy ring case (picture)
boate, brent

#13
4 plead guilty to ecstasy distribution (picture)
asse, juan carlos "carly"

#14
b.ray pleads guilty to ecstasy distribution charge; d.pacheco pleads not guilty (picture)
ray, bernadette alexandra

#15
o.khan, d.pacheco indicted in connection with ecstasy ring
khan, omar saeed

#16
b.boate pleads guilty to ecstasy distribution charge (picture)
boate, brent michel

#17
undercover drug operation nets 7 arrests in and around cedar key
cedar key

#18
5 members of alleged ecstasy ring arrested (picture)
asse, juan carlos "carly"

Drug arrest are good. Its gets the bad people off the street. Put all the drugies and dealers in jail and the world would be a better place.

Guardian angel, I disagree. I don't think that people doing (or selling) drugs are bad. Prosecuting and imprisoning drug users and dealers is a complete waste of time and money. If the state wasn't wasting so much time putting a recreational pot user in jail, they would have more time and energy to spend prosecuting people who *are* a danger to society like rapists and people running guns. As a criminal defense attorney, most of my clients on any given day are in on drug charges. They are not bad or dangerous people.

IMHO, drugs should be legalized -- and when I say drugs, I mean all of them. It should be a matter of personal choice, just like drinking. Additionally, I think that there would be a HUGE reduction in crime if you could go down to Osco to buy some E or crack or whatever you wanted. There would be no money in it for the street dealers, and the government could tax it. We could still have laws like with alcohol making it a crime to drive under the influence.

Of course, in our uptight society, this will never happen.

Do you take drugs or ever tried them? If yes of course you want it legalized and do not think drugs are bad. If you don't and never have tried them I can respect your opinion.

Law enforcement is fighting a war that it cannot win. While I personally would never touch the stuff I don't really have a problem with those that do. I however DO have a problem with something like marijuana being illegal where alcohol according to johnny law is just fine. The legal one is addictive as hell (and I've seen it take lives away) it's not even possible to OD smoking marijuana (you'd die of smoke inhalation first).

They cite bogus statistics like X amount of people go to rehab every year for marijuana... sure if you have the choice of going to jail or going to rehab... what's it going to be?

The Hidden Scourge
 

Go to www.dailyherald.com and check out stories on the "Heroin and Club Drugs in the Suburbs" link. It should be on the right side of the page. There are tons of stories there about teens from all walks of life and the effects drugs have had on their life.

Then tell me drugs should be legalized. Just my opinion.

This simply proves the fact that no matter what amount is spent on law enforcement, it won't work. All law enforcement does is further complicate the lives of people who are either using the stuff recreationally and really don't suffer much from it if any or complicating the already tough lives of addicts.

They would be addicted whether or not the stuff was legal because they have access to it either way. These kids hardships occured through their own stupid choices. It would be the same if they were alcoholics... Just legal once they were 21.

I am not saying that law enforcement is perfect; its not. There are flaws in the system. But the idea of legalizing every drug is scary. I know I would not want people in my community able to get high of meth whenever they wanted too.

And it is not just these "stupid kids" that suffer. In these stories, anyone can see how drugs affect families, communities etc. There are too many drugs out there that completely impair people beyond the simple high of dope. The choices they made were simply to use drugs.

And drugs have a completely different hold on people than alcohol. The two are apples and oranges; you can't compare them.

But honestly, isn't that essentially the system we work under now, as far as "whenever they wanted too (sic)"?

OK - but as stated above, law enforcement is weak in this area. If people already make this choice, as you posit, why not have the choice made in the sterility and control of a government operation?
When was the last time you saw black-market cigarettes?

The bottom line is, this happens anyway, so why not MAKE money off of it, rather than SPENDING money in a vain effort to make you, your mom, my grandmother, and joe saturday feel like 'drugs is bad, we doin sometin bout it'?

Why not?

Alcohol is just as addictive as many drugs, you can die of overdose, its effects are scary and can include violence, impaired judgement, and overestimation of abilities to perform critical functions (think driving) - and, in fact, alcohol IS A DRUG, by DEFINITION.

Where do you draw the line? Is ephedrine a 'drug'? Is pot a drug? How about morphine?

The positives outweigh the negatives, and that's without relying on any sort of "take away the mystique and the black market, take away the urge to do it" appeal to anonymous authority . . .

I agree with valkyrie (there you go again, reading my mind), ktsnake and KSig.

Whether they are legal or not, people are going to do drugs. They are always gonna find a way to get it. And I think that drugs CAN be compared to alcohol. Why on earth not? It is the same thing!

I have issues with drug laws on MANY levels. They are differentially reinforced, for one, which leads me to my next thought....UF, what did you mean by this:

@guardian angel...what is your point, exactly? :confused:

i don't see your logic..wouldn't someone who has taken drugs be able to make a more educated/informed opinion than someone whose only experience/opinion is formed from what is portrayed in the media?

I have to disagree with most of the above. I personally feel the 'marijuana vs. alcohol' argument is akin to saying, 'Well, its legal to drive holding a cell phone(at least in my state still), cigarette, and Big Mac, but I cant drive with my eyes closed? Not fair!' If marijuana, hypothetically, is responsible for 5% of the automobile accidents that alcohol is involved in, why would you want to compound those figures? Why would you add to those totals? Even so, the only real problem with marijuana that I have is that there is yet an immediate test for it. When someone is too drunk to operate a taxi, airplane, or other heavy machinery, its usually pretty obvious before they get behind the controls. Being high is often much easier to conceal. I know this because I was actually in a car struck by a motorist who passed an alcohol test but it wasnt until two weeks later that the police officially determined he was driving while cannabis-impaired. (no one was hurt)

The argument has been made that it is a personal choice. I dont believe any substance which puts you in an altered state of mind and in less than 100% control of yourself at all times affects just you. Whether it is driving a car, taking care of smalll children, or even sitting next to someone, you are free to live your life how you want, until the very moment you threaten someone else's well being. Some of these substances are legal, some are not. If we cannot trust ourselves with alcohol, why would we throw more fuel on the fire? This is not to say that there arent people who consume both alcohol and marijuana responsibly, but there are also those that do not. And sometimes, too many times, it can hurt, and even kill people. People affected by a 'personal choice' that another person made.

Mrblonde,
do you think alcohol should be outlawed? Also, you tend to drive pretty slow when your stoned.

I'm sort of in favor of legalizing drugs too... I waver a lot, but it seems like it would be a good idea.

It would definitely save a lot of tax payer money by reducing the amount of people in jail.

You can't legalize drugs. You just can't!

Drug enforcement has become big money for law enforcement, enforced rehab clinics, prisons, and even the underground economy.

Think: If you legalized drugs the economic costs would be enormous!

Most of the justification for police budgets are drugs now. I think something like 60 percent of incarceration is for drug related offenses. There are huge blocks of money going for drug enforcement. Its insane.

Are you going to put all those people out of work???

IT would be wrong to do that.

I have yet to see marijuana make anyone act violently:D

I'll let you know if it ever happens.

Alcohol on the other hand... that's a whole other story. I think that MOST of us can speak from experience.. I'd MUCH rather be driving people around in my car stoned than drunk... If I had to drag them along with me I'd much rather have them stoned than drunk... If they had to drive me somewhere... I'd much rather have them stoned than drunk (not that I'd like to put myself in those situations.. just if given the choice I'd say that marijuana is MUCH more benign than alcohol in just about any circumstance).

They say it's much more carcinogenic than tobacco? Well yep.. But something that most people do maybe once a week will probably effect them less than smoking a pack a day.

For that particular drug I can see no compelling reason not to legalize it... besides putting a few cops and prison guards back into the labor pool...

Libra...

I said that because many times people in college, people like you and I, think we are invinceable. They think that if we play it smart, we won't get caught. We're good people. We will be leaders in our society one day. But the bottom line is this....if you sell drugs for any length of time.....you will get caught......regardless of whether or not you played it stupid or smart.


My friend Carly graduated 1st in his class, out of 600+ students. He was 2 semesters away from having his degree in Finance, then he got nailed. The same was for Jason, Omhar, Joe, both Brents and Burnedette. 2 out of all those turned rat and got lighter sentences....2 years...and the other only got probation.


Drugs being illegal causes a problem both for users and non-users.

When I came up here from south-florida I was shocked to see all these kids doing XTC. I went through that $hit in highschool, as did most people who are from South-Florida. The problem began when my buddies saw that these kids up here at UF would pay
30$ for something they could buy in bulk back home for 8$.

When the XTC boom hit UF in 1998,1999 and 2000....kids were going ape shit. Eventually the street price dropped from 30$ a pill in 98' to the 15$ of present date. Greed set in when they saw how much money that were making off of the crapp. I mean think about it......they were selling 5,000 pills of XTC a week in gainesville....bought them for 8$ a piece back home. The 1st year they sold them at 30$ a piece but inorder to keep their buisness profitable, they lowered the price in 99' to 20$ a pill. Needless to say, they were the drug dealers of G-ville and they were making tons of cash. My friend jason bought a house and paid for it in cash. Carly was one of the smart ones and put money away for attorney fees in case they got busted. They ran their buisness for 1 year and 8 months before they got nailed. During the time period it was estimated that they made between 2,000,000 to 3.5,000,000 dollars between the 5 of them.

Now this is how if affected the non-users......

Because of their bust.....the city of Gainesville used their case for the call to arms inorder to keep it's city safe from drugs and "Late night dance parties"....... So what did they do? They made all the downtown buisnesses shut their doors at 2:00am, killing their buisness. Most kids back then didn't even get ready to go out until 1:00am. It killed the buisness for the clubs and bars. Many owners went under and had to shut down. Some went bankrupt. They ADULTS were now being told when they had to go home as if they were children.

Now: what did it do to the non-users who weren't buisness owners.......

The closing time laws then made it to where there was massive binge drinking in town inorder to squeeze in the last drinks before closing time......causing more deaths...more drunk drivers, more DUIs....kids loosing the chance for a college education because of one mistake, a mistake the city induced by it's reactions to certain situations.

Now binge drinking was occuring at UF

So, what did the brilliant leaders of the city do? They started the party Patrol....costing the people of Gainesville more money in taxes to pay those stupid cops more money to drive around and munch on doughnuts. And who started this crapp to begin with? Look back the begining of this post......the POLICE and drugs not being legal.

The drug topic seems to be very popular on GC this week...

Yea I know, check out the hazing forum of Greekchat....

Look in the Date-rape drug thread....

I've been "voicing"my opinion in that thread as well....

Okay, cool, thanks for clarifying.

Legalize drugs, don't legalize drugs, blahdy blah. Y'all truly don't wanna get me started on drugs and their laws. I am pretty sure that I could bring PM Mama and Neicy81 back out if I REALLY wanted to! LOL ;) :p :D

When I was in college in the 60's, the police did "no knock" raids and students were sent away to twenty years of hard time for simple possission of marijuana.

Ridiculous.

However, you will not convince our daughter that "weed" is not addictive. While there may not be a chemical reaction which causes a physical addiction, the "high" is something she enjoyed so much that she kept going back. That may not fit the legitimate definition of addiction, but at least to her, it was more than she could or wanted to fight.

Was she particularly weak. Maybe. It doesn't matter.

She went from marijuana to many other "harder" drugs. For a couple of years she was nearly not a functioning human being. She partied when she could drag herself out of bed and slept the rest of the time.

Somehow she realized that she was very close to killing herself and checked herself into a detox program which relies of peer pressure instead of psychologists, etc. She was never caught or arrested. Nobody forced her into the program. She did it herself.

Thank God.

Should marijuana be leagalized? Maybe -- although for some people, it's not the "harmless" substance that many argue. Should all drugs be legalized. No.

A parent's anguish watching a child, who is self-destructing, lose three years of her life is something I hope none of the rest of you ever have to face.

Optimist- slow or not, if youre not paying attention while driving, it is possible to hit and kill someone going 20 mph...

ktsnake- You dont have to be violent to kill somebody behind the wheel of a car. Also, the only reason Danielle van Dams parents couldnt stop the guy who kidnapped and murdered her was because they were stoned.

I'm sorry, but I see a huge difference with smoking marajuana and doing cocaine and ecstasy. BIG difference...maybe I'm just naive because I never did any of the "harder" drugs...pot was it, along with the fun and legal alcohol.

My concern is that you're mad PC Pike that your friends and brothers in fraternities are being arrested for drug possession/dealing/etc. and you think that's not ok, but is a drug dealer really someone you want representing your fraternity? Just playing devil's advocate :)

First, let me clarify things up, the guys dealing XTC were not in my Frat. They were not in a frat at all. The guys in the most recent bust, the cocaine sting, were. I'm not saying which two they were in, but rest assure they were not PIKES.

My brother, from another school, who had posseion of a drug didn't look at it being illegal since in his country it was legal. When he first came to this country for school it was legal, then it was taken off the shelve and made illegal.

I'm not mad that they got busted. If they're dealing them, it's only a matter of time. I'm pissed that people set up the users, the ones who aren't doing it for money but rather as their own recreational use. And the guy who set them up, is actually known by almost everyone in Gainesville and is a good friend of mine. That leaves me in a bad place. I'm someones friend until they do me wrong. The guy hasn't done me wrong, yet, and so i don't know what to do. It's hard to be friends with someone who others will now hate. On the other hand I know he had to do what he did inorder to save his own a$$. He got busted this past summer for some really hefty $hit, just as he opened up another club ( which I totally knew was just a front for some shady drug operation.). I'm pissed that friends of ours who KNEW he got nailed still went to him for their weekend Gas. An ounce of cocaine is nothing to play with. Thats 3 eight balls.

There's a reply in your Pm box. Check it. I'm about to leave for the weekend.


I need the relaxation of the Keys.

It's remarkable, but we may finally have something to agree on.

I'm not sure it ever does any good to arrest someone for recreational use. I don't know what that accomplishes in the overall scheme of things. It clogs up the courts and jails, and generally ends up in some kind of probation. Why bother?

Selling or providing drugs for/to other people is something else.

Man, pot should be legal. I mean come on. No substance is completly harmless. If you eat enough bread you'll get cancer. Does this mean they should outlaw bread? No. Should bread come with a warning label? Yes. So should weed. "Warning: This substance will cause a severe craving for pickles and a compulsion to watch Spounge Bob Square Pants"

So those of you who argue that drugs should *not* be legalized -- are you saying that because (1) people who are on drugs hurt others or (2) the government has to protect people from themselves (meaning the government has to make laws to prevent people from doing drugs)?

Quote of the week folx. Right there.


lol

As a former employee of the Los Angeles DA's Office's Organized Crime Task Force, I am firm believer in the legalization of drugs. It is really the dealers who need to be taken out, not the users. In the time I spend doing preliminary hearings in our court system, most of my drug use cases were incidental possession charges (i.e., usually homeless people, people who already had strikes under CA's 3 strikes law or people who were known gang members got nervous when they saw the cops and tried to dispose of their drugs [a.k.a. drop cases], or people were being busted for something else and they were in possession when apprehended). Our officers did not do "stings" to bust users. That would be a complete waste of resources.

I do have concerns about the legalization of certain drugs (i.e., heroin) and what would happen to our prescription medication system if drugs were legalized. I believe in our prescription medication system b/c without it we would likely cause the bacteria to mutate faster and make it more difficult for the doctors to treat us when we are really sick.

UF_Pike, while I disagree with what happened to your buddies, drug use is illegal and people who regularly break the law have to expect that if they break certain laws on an ongoing basis they might be apprehended. If that many of your friends have been arrested lately you might want to examine who you are friends with.

wat
 

i believe marcos would never do anything stupid like that. he is my tenis coach so chill out wit that!!!!