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DELTABRAT 10-22-2002 09:18 PM

Is it my imagination or...Plastic surgery questions...
 
Those of you who can't stand to gossip...get on up oudahere!

IS it my imagination or does LL Cool J look COMPLETELY different in his new video for the song that I really like but don't know the name of? I admit he is really slimmed down (not impossible)...but his face looks really different...Nose job maybe?

Speaking of which...Lil' Kim in the new issue of Vibe/SOURCE or some Jewish owned hip hop magazine looks COMPLETELY different as well. There is a spread of her over the years and her new look is really really different...face wise.

Hollywood is doin' soethin' to my peeps.

What do you all think? Is it my imagination?

Honeykiss1974 10-23-2002 12:10 AM

I read somewhere that Lil Kim admitted to having other plastic surgery, besides the boob job.

I think Vivica Fox got a nose job myself.

ClassyLady 10-23-2002 10:34 AM

I think that Lil' Kim has had a nose job and had her teeth capped. If I'm not mistaken, she admitted it on the air to Wendy Williams when her last CD came out.

Toni Braxton has also admitted to having a nose job. She encouraged her sister Tamar, remember her, to get one as well. She said that she'd never make it with that "juicy" nose. (Those are her exact words.)

I believe that Vivaca Fox has had her breasts done as well.

Question: Did Missy Elliot have lipo or did she lose the weight naturally? I liked her better when she had a little more meat on her bones.

carolyne 10-23-2002 03:39 PM

The only thing that I noticed on LL's face is that he doesn't have any bottom eyelashes. That's what makes his face look funny when they do the closeup of him in the white hat. Other than that, I didn't notice anything.

As far as Missy, I think she lost the weight naturally. It was very gradual and I think she looks really good now. I was just thinking this morning about how Missy, Kelly Price, and Faith Evans all lost so much weight.

Toni Braxton also had breast implants but had them removed when one started leaking.

JinglesSpr99 10-23-2002 04:23 PM

I haven't looked at this in a while but i think halle had a nose job also. It too the point now that a lot of actors and actors don't think twice about plastic surgery. Because if they don't they can lose representation, jobs....

Steeltrap 10-23-2002 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JinglesSpr99
I haven't looked at this in a while but i think halle had a nose job also. It too the point now that a lot of actors and actors don't think twice about plastic surgery. Because if they don't they can lose representation, jobs....
You break it down about the bottom line here.
Besides plastic surgery, this theory can also apply to the weight loss issue. As an aside, perhaps Oprah Winfrey felt pressured to lose weight to appear on Vogue's cover around the time that Beloved was released.

ykimber 10-23-2002 07:37 PM

Well in regards to Lil Kim she has admitted to have plastic surgery to become a "Black Barbie".

And I also think LL looks different, just can't pin point what it is but it is on the face.

DELTABRAT 10-24-2002 12:19 AM

Yeah. I consulted with one of my Sands and she agreed that LL has had some "work."

I can't believe you could tell he doesn't have an BOTTOM eyelashes! You must have hella good reception.

I agree that hollywood is a trip and for us if the agent/manager says (You know, if you just took your nostrils in a tad bit, you may be up for the [so and so] roles. Hey, I am sure they don't think twice.

Lil Kim is overboard.

Yeah. I don't know. Most men won't admit to the surgery as readily as women..especially rappers and what not.

Wjite women tend to get a lot of work done, but I think it strikes us as odd because our features are so strong that when you decrease your nostril size, it's like "what happened?"

If Lil Kim keeps up she will soon be the female version of Whacco...I mean Jacko :eek:

FeeFee 10-24-2002 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by carolyne

As far as Missy, I think she lost the weight naturally. It was very gradual and I think she looks really good now. I was just thinking this morning about how Missy, Kelly Price, and Faith Evans all lost so much weight.

Missy usually would state that whenever she wants to lose weight, she would simply stop smoking marijuana. By not smoking, she would no longer have the "munchies" (a side effect of marijuana usage) and eat less food. Then eventually we would all see a slimmer Missy.

cleopatrajones 10-24-2002 11:07 AM

Halle Berry did have a nose job. I saw one picture about 8 years ago with her and her old nose and then a picture with the current one. I remember being really shocked. I thought Toni Braxton had a nose job too b/c I swear I saw pictures of her with her old nose. Thanks for the confirmation Classylady, now I know I'm not crazy.

nikki1920 10-24-2002 11:15 AM

I thought LL just worked out and toned up? I knew Toni had work done on her boobies, b/c Russ and Olivia clowned the heck out of her when the story broke, complet with sounds of explosions.. that was too funny..

Patti Labelle had her nose done too. I think some ppl do it to nip and tuck and then some ppl, like Michael Jackson and Lil Kim take it tooooooo far..

carolyne 10-24-2002 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
Yeah. I consulted with one of my Sands and she agreed that LL has had some "work."

I can't believe you could tell he doesn't have an BOTTOM eyelashes! You must have hella good reception.



What work do you all believe he had done? I really don't see any other difference in his face. Of course, the body caught me off guard but I think that came with hard work.

As far as his eyelashes, I just kept looking at him because I though that he looked funny. Then it hit me. No eyelashes (or very thin ones) at the bottom.

Love_Spell_6 10-24-2002 12:14 PM

Re: Is it my imagination or...Plastic surgery questions...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
Those of you who can't stand to gossip...get on up oudahere!

IS it my imagination or does LL Cool J look COMPLETELY different in his new video for the song that I really like but don't know the name of? I admit he is really slimmed down (not impossible)...but his face looks really different...Nose job maybe?

Speaking of which...Lil' Kim in the new issue of Vibe/SOURCE or some Jewish owned hip hop magazine looks COMPLETELY different as well. There is a spread of her over the years and her new look is really really different...face wise.

Hollywood is doin' soethin' to my peeps.

What do you all think? Is it my imagination?

As for LL, I THINK his secret is called w-o-r-k-i-n-g- o-u-t!!! We'd all be surprised what dedication in the gym can do!

DELTABRAT 10-24-2002 11:13 PM

Re: Re: Is it my imagination or...Plastic surgery questions...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6


As for LL, I THINK his secret is called w-o-r-k-i-n-g- o-u-t!!! We'd all be surprised what dedication in the gym can do!

Thanks for the hint but my original question has nothing to do with LL's body. I am aware, from experience, what diet and hard work can do. The face is real different though.

I think it is easier to admit to ourselves (as well as they to themselves) that women get work done but with brothahs, it's like "oh he just has body...oh he was just working out" I am just convinced that he had a nose job. I really am. A friend of mine just got a nose job and she is on the prowl for everyone else who "indulges" and agreed that she thought he looked "interesting" as well.

I could see if LL was JUST a rapper but we all know his acting is "taking off" and you know how they want folks to change.

Okay. I am off my soapbox. I really value the GC opinion which is why I asked the question...interesting though...

lovelyivy84 10-25-2002 06:08 PM

Nah, LL just lost weight.

When you lose body fat it comes from EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING your face. When you lose 20+ pouns, as he must have done to get his body fat % that LOW, then it REALLY shows in the face.

His face is just less chunky. I didn't think he looked like he had a nose job when I saw him, I thought he looked cracked out (see whitney), lol. A result of the lost weight.

Love_Spell_6 10-25-2002 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Nah, LL just lost weight.

When you lose body fat it comes from EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING your face. When you lose 20+ pouns, as he must have done to get his body fat % that LOW, then it REALLY shows in the face.

His face is just less chunky. I didn't think he looked like he had a nose job when I saw him, I thought he looked cracked out (see whitney), lol. A result of the lost weight.

I agree!! Sometimes people don't want to give credit where credit is due. I am into fitness (although you don't have to be, to know this)....and you are so right...when you lose body fat, it does come from everywhere!!!

DELTABRAT 10-25-2002 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6


I agree!! Sometimes people don't want to give credit where credit is due. I am into fitness (although you don't have to be, to know this)....and you are so right...when you lose body fat, it does come from everywhere!!!

Soror, I really wish you would quit implying that I am not giving LL his just due. I am also into fitness and last I checked, losing 20lbs or so, the fat tends to come off everywhere, but not THE NOSE!!!

I will leave it alone. I would be interested in what LL is indeed doing as it pertains to his fitness/health regimen. I still wouldn't doubt that he's had some work done...sorry if that offends or hurts my sistahs who just don't see it that way:)

carolyne 10-27-2002 01:19 AM

Oooooo-Weeeee!!!!
 
I just finished watching LL's video and I think I have to concur with my soror, Deltabrat, that LL may have had some work done. I would have never noticed it, but his nose is smaller and more pointed. He used to have a full, healthy nose but it's not like that anymore. :eek:

CrucialCrimson 10-28-2002 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DELTABRAT


Soror, I really wish you would quit implying that I am not giving LL his just due. I am also into fitness and last I checked, losing 20lbs or so, the fat tends to come off everywhere, but not THE NOSE!!!

I will leave it alone. I would be interested in what LL is indeed doing as it pertains to his fitness/health regimen. I still wouldn't doubt that he's had some work done...sorry if that offends or hurts my sistahs who just don't see it that way:)

He actually lost 35 pounds which would have an impact on his face, nose included - even though men don't get pregnant ask any woman that has had a baby if weight changes show up on your nose!! But, I think you are both right, he's lost a lot of weight, most of which was fat and he has had some work. I say more power to him and anyone else that does it to fine tune their face, if the knife can give you what nature didn't, go for it!

ZChi4Life 10-28-2002 08:01 PM

LL
 
I thought this was pretty interesting, so I went to LL's website.
He has pics from back in the day as well as recent photos. If he has had some work done, it's VERY good. I myself think his nose is like that due to his weight loss. If you look at his older pics, you can see that his nose, as well as the rest of his face is a lot chunkier. But if you look at the pics from today, his entire face is a lot thinner and more defined.

Check him out for yourselves:
LL Cool J

kissy324 10-31-2002 10:23 AM

I believe LL had a nose job. The reason I say this is because, when LL first came out (the days of Rock the Bells), he was very small (smaller than he is now), but his nose was still wide and full. Over the years, he started putting on weight, but his nose still remained the same. Now, his nose is longer, and a littler slimmer. It's now a completely different shape.

Losing weight can only make your nose shrink, or get larger, but it cannot make a nose completely change it's shape, which is the case of LL. I was even watching one of his movies, where he plays a DJ, and his nose was wide and full. It was a completely different shape from what it is now. I say he has a nose job.

But who cares about his nose. He gets two thumbs up for the total package. :D

thesweetestone 11-26-2002 02:00 AM

I don't think those are Halle Berry's real teeth. They are too straight and they are too big.

I think Bobby Brown could stand to have a little work done. He looks horrible.:eek:

carolyne 11-26-2002 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by thesweetestone
I don't think those are Halle Berry's real teeth. They are too straight and they are too big.


I was just thinking the same thing this morning. They don't look natural at all.

ChaosDST 11-26-2002 07:27 PM

it isn't rare for celebrities and noncelebs to have work done on their teeth in terms of implants and having them sawed evenly for that "dentures look."

i knew about toni braxton's nose job, it was extremely obvious. i was tired of her caking on the nose makeup trying to make her nose look smaller...if a smaller nose is what she wanted...uh ok.

no one mentioned this, but I wonder exactly HOW MUCH work J-Lo's had done. we know the white people made her lose that weight and stuff. besides that, look at her NOSE when she was a Fly Girl versus when she was Selena versus NOW. They could just be caking up the make-up (like they did for Toni) but a few other people have concluded that she's had work done, too.

As for LL...mmmmmmm...if he had a nose job, he sucks...but whether or not he's had one...HE'S FINE!

DELTABRAT 11-26-2002 08:38 PM

I'm feelin' you on the J-Lo vibe as well. I am aware that they can apply make up so as to make the nose appear to be more narrow but I would also venture to say that J Lo has had a thing or two altered.

As for Ms. Berry's teeth...I saw her on E the other night and I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if she recently had something done which is why suddenly people are taking notice. The suddenly do look real big and even and all...like bigger than in her more recent movies (i.e. Swordfish).

Do we need to talk about Jacko and the band-aid though?

Eclipse 11-26-2002 10:11 PM

Denzel has also had major caps put on his teeth. Look at his some of his earlier work (Carbon Copy and the Wilma Rudolph Story) and the smile is quite different.

Speaking of Bobby Brown and his need for some work. I was watching Two Can play that Game the other night and almost threw up when ol' girl Principal Grier from the Steve Harvey show talked about how she got his teeth fixed! I was screaming "Get yo' money back, girl!!" LOL

thesweetestone 11-27-2002 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChaosDST
no one mentioned this, but I wonder exactly HOW MUCH work J-Lo's had done. we know the white people made her lose that weight and stuff. besides that, look at her NOSE when she was a Fly Girl versus when she was Selena versus NOW. They could just be caking up the make-up (like they did for Toni) but a few other people have concluded that she's had work done, too.
I do remember J.Lo being real thick on In Living Color.

Janet Jackson was really big on the "Nutty Professor 2" and on the video "Doesn't really matter" then the next time she came out she was a size 0 and it was only a couple of months later. She doesn't really talk about weight problem either. She really has gone too far with all that plastic surgery.

I'm glad Tyra Banks has stop coming her a$$ on Oprah lying talking about those are her real boobs.:rolleyes:


Oprah has had some work done too! Although she still looks horrible with out that make-up. I can't beleive she lets them tape her looking like that.:eek: :eek:

ClassyLady 11-27-2002 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by thesweetestone

I'm glad Tyra Banks has stop coming her a$$ on Oprah lying talking about those are her real boobs.:rolleyes:

Girl, you and me both. Even Stevie Wonder could see that those are not hers. One time, she even had her mother on there talking bout some "Tyra was a late bloomer." Yeah, a real late bloomer, she bloomed at 22 when she had the money to get the surgery.

DELTABRAT 11-27-2002 12:45 PM

Yeah. why not just be honest. Celebrities have the luxury of being out of the spotlight until the swelling/pain/bruising goes down/away. Unfortunately people don't realize all the pain (especially psychologically) that comes as a result and go out and try some sh%$ and wonder why people stare at them with the black eyes/bloody nostrils, etc. It's like that episode of Sex and the City when Samantha got a chemical peel. It's all good if you have an assistant to go out and by your food/get your clothes out of the cleaners, etc., but in real life...

Neosoulchild 01-08-2004 01:32 AM

I know I've brought up and old thread, but I was wondering... was there ever a final consensus on LL? And is it just me or did Sanaa Lathan get some work done on her boobs?

rho4life 01-09-2004 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JinglesSpr99
I haven't looked at this in a while but i think halle had a nose job also. It too the point now that a lot of actors and actors don't think twice about plastic surgery. Because if they don't they can lose representation, jobs....

I heard Halle got Botox too. People point to her Oscar acceptance where her face didn't look quite right

DELTABRAT 01-11-2004 10:33 PM

This is why I love GC. Because y'all come back a year later with the "can we get a consensus" inquiry. I love it.

I juts saw an LL video and was like "is that LL?" My boyfirned was like "I think." I was like "WORK!" He was like "yeah, Hollywood is a beast."

I need to see the Halle photos so I can laugh.

Mary J had something done, too. Her eyes, I think. She's different. Cute, but different.

Neosoulchild 04-18-2004 03:18 PM

They did Lil' Kim wrong on here, but it's funny.

Awful Plastic Surgery

lovelyivy84 04-19-2004 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neosoulchild
They did Lil' Kim wrong on here, but it's funny.

Awful Plastic Surgery

I would have to say that Kim did herself wrong, not this website.

That is a damn shame...

Neosoulchild 04-19-2004 10:19 AM

Yeah, but they didn't have to put her next to MJ like that; even though it was funny.

FeeFee 04-19-2004 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
I would have to say that Kim did herself wrong, not this website.

That is a damn shame...

Homegirl needs to go see a shrink and stop getting so many unnecessary surgeries. She looks really horrible. :(

ladylike 04-19-2004 10:46 AM

Self-hatred
 
Quote:

Originally posted by FeeFee
Homegirl needs to go see a shrink and stop getting so many unnecessary surgeries. She looks really horrible. :(
I agree....it pains me to watch Lil' Kim b/c it's sooo obvious that there's a lot of self-hate swirling inside of her. The lightened skin....blue contacts.....down to her butt blonde hair....sad, just sad. :(

reddawn18 04-19-2004 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ClassyLady
Question: Did Missy Elliot have lipo or did she lose the weight naturally? I liked her better when she had a little more meat on her bones.
She is sticking to the story that she lost it naturally. I but I think she had the stapling and lipo.

AngelicWings21 04-19-2004 03:13 PM

I use to be a lil kim fan...I still listen to her music..but its like ...why
is this person who says she loves herself and love being who she is..yet she is altering every piece of her body...What was wrong with her to begin with??????
She seemed A OK to me....but hey....who am I to judge someone else....
I think to many people are running out to get "snipped, snapped, implanted, pumped, sucked, and poked with needles" for all the wrong reasons...
If its a matter of life or death....I can see a point...
but to do just b/c ....whats a reasonable answer?

1savvydiva 04-19-2004 03:41 PM

OMG!!! :eek:

She looked soooo much better before!


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