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BetaGirl 01-28-2012 11:37 AM

TLC New Show "Sorority Girls"
 
OMG and Okay...So now that I freaked out and am waiting for replies to my old thread on this show I have to post it hear. Here is the original thread about a show called Sorority Girls that aired in the UK

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=122578

I just did a search on the show and looks like TLC picked it up??? Can they even do that?! I mean I guess they don't say what sorority the girls are in...

http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/sorority-girls

I'm a huge fan of the show Greek, but I don't know what to think on this airing in the US next week apparently!!

ColdInCanada11 01-28-2012 11:48 AM

It's a new sorority, Sigma Gamma.

BetaGirl 01-28-2012 11:57 AM

Is it official? That's so cool! I'm kind excited to watch it all here- mainly because I'm a Greek life addict lol

ColdInCanada11 01-28-2012 12:03 PM

Official? It's not connected to any NPC sorority (in spite of the 5 American sisters), but I *think* it's an actual group (I'd like to believe it is :) ). Whether or not they've carried on afterwords is another question though!

Leslie Anne 01-28-2012 01:06 PM

It looks to me like TLC is just going to be airing the show that we GCers have seen. It's not a new show or a continuation.

ColdInCanada11 01-28-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 2121750)
It looks to me like TLC is just going to be airing the show that we GCers have seen. It's not a new show or a continuation.

Yep, that's exactly what it is.

BetaGirl 01-28-2012 02:56 PM

ohhhh, well it's still kinda of exciting then. Maybe those who didn't watch it online will have opinions about it from seeing it on TLC. I watched some of it online last year but found the video quality to really suck and sometimes not even work all the way through. I did like what I saw though. I wonder how the five American girls they picked got picked? I'm looking forward to seeing it on the actual TV station, and it will probably be much better quality lol

ColdInCanada11 01-28-2012 03:14 PM

Not 100% sure, but I think that there was a casting call at various American universities. I almost wonder if there were some organisations who said no to any of their members participating. (That's the one side that I would have liked to see more of, but clearly would not have interested UK viewers).

PM_Mama00 01-28-2012 07:22 PM

Been there, done that. MTV. If you're active, it was pretty much when you were babies ;) They did Sorority Life and Fraternity Life.

BetaGirl 01-29-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 2121809)
Been there, done that. MTV. If you're active, it was pretty much when you were babies ;) They did Sorority Life and Fraternity Life.


lol true dat. :)

I did though see a few episodes of the show (Sorority Girls) online when i could find them and it was really different from MTV"S sorority life to be honest (I have only seen a few episodes online of that as well though). I found MTV's Sorority Life to be really shallow.

While Sorority Girls stuck me as a little bit more genuine I guess. Even though the American Girls did seem pretty scripted- so you never know then really if that was them. I don't know i just liked it better were as Sorority Life I didn't. I'm sure they are similar in some ways though, I think the ideas though behind the shows sound a bit different.

I think over all I'll probs just watch it Tuesday when it airs and see how I feel.. I hate my addiction to Greek Life.

ree-Xi 01-29-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BetaGirl (Post 2121900)
lol true dat. :)

I did though see a few episodes of the show (Sorority Girls) online when i could find them and it was really different from MTV"S sorority life to be honest (I have only seen a few episodes online of that as well though). I found MTV's Sorority Life to be really shallow.

While Sorority Girls stuck me as a little bit more genuine I guess. Even though the American Girls did seem pretty scripted- so you never know then really if that was them. I don't know i just liked it better were as Sorority Life I didn't. I'm sure they are similar in some ways though, I think the ideas though behind the shows sound a bit different.

I think over all I'll probs just watch it Tuesday when it airs and see how I feel.. I hate my addiction to Greek Life.

Not. At. All. Everything about the show was contrived and trite. Each of the five "sister" are (active or alumnae) members of NPC organizations. So there is no existing "Sigma Gamma" for anyone to join. When they talk about the way certain girls dress or act, they use trite phrases like "SNSG!!" (So Not Sigma Gamma).

They were really condescending during their "rush" and they later joked about how bad they were going to haze the girls. I'm sorry, but melting ice on your chest and being blindfolded and dumped in the woods in your pajamas? Sorry, 1989 is calling.

It's entertaining, but anything but sincere.

DeltaBetaBaby 01-29-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2121913)
Not. At. All. Everything about the show was contrived and trite. Each of the five "sister" are (active or alumnae) members of NPC organizations. So there is no existing "Sigma Gamma" for anyone to join. When they talk about the way certain girls dress or act, they use trite phrases like "SNSG!!" (So Not Sigma Gamma).

They were really condescending during their "rush" and they later joked about how bad they were going to haze the girls. I'm sorry, but melting ice on your chest and being blindfolded and dumped in the woods in your pajamas? Sorry, 1989 is calling.

It's entertaining, but anything but sincere.

I would say, however, that I believe the pledges developed real friendships among themselves. There were at least a few who I thought were really heartbroken to leave, and money or fame had nothing to do with it.

Greek_or_Geek? 01-29-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 2121913)
They were really condescending during their "rush" and they later joked about how bad they were going to haze the girls. I'm sorry, but melting ice on your chest and being blindfolded and dumped in the woods in your pajamas? Sorry, 1989 is calling.

I think when this show airs in the US things may get a little interesting for some of the American girls who appeared in it. Now they'll be seen where they and their affiliations are easily recognizable. I can't imagine HQs being amused by some of their behavior.

danielleymarie 01-30-2012 05:53 PM

Sigma Gamma is actually a social fraternity at SUNY Oswego and has been since 1948. Just a little fun fact.

http://www.sigmagammaonline.com/Info...s%20Public.htm

TPA85 01-31-2012 10:14 PM

Have "the Americans" affiliations been announced/revealed??

ColdInCanada11 01-31-2012 10:23 PM

Not officially, but it's easy to find them! Even though their organisations allowed them to participate, I doubt they would let them bring their name into it officially.

sdt6 01-31-2012 11:29 PM

Anyone have an issue with this show? I think it portrays sororities in a bad way. Also kinda have an issue with the American sisters affiliation with national organizations, why would that be allowed when it can be easily discovered what sorority they belong to?

Greek_or_Geek? 01-31-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11 (Post 2122577)
Not officially, but it's easy to find them! Even though their organisations allowed them to participate, I doubt they would let them bring their name into it officially.

Where did you see anything that said their organizations allowed them to participate or even knew they were doing the show?

Xidelt 01-31-2012 11:57 PM

The American girls' sense of superiority was really obnoxious. Also, black pearls = no bid as a veiled reference to blackballing? Puh-lease. The producers must have hired the author of "Pledged" as a consultant for the show.

ColdInCanada11 02-01-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek? (Post 2122603)
Where did you see anything that said their organizations allowed them to participate or even knew they were doing the show?

I guessed- I'm sure if an organisation took away your membership if you did the show, there's not many NPCers who would have gone on it. I'm sure all of us are expected to uphold the standards of our organisation in the public, and I could see this being interpreted as not doing so (wait until later episodes-spoiler hazing). We all understand that even though you might not be wearing letters, you are still representing your Fraternity.

Also, I highly doubt that there is any chance that their repsective organisations didn't know they were participating. There's footage of each of the five American girls at their chapters in the US, word travels pretty fast.

SthrnZeta 02-01-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11 (Post 2122577)
Not officially, but it's easy to find them! Even though their organisations allowed them to participate, I doubt they would let them bring their name into it officially.

You're right, I found all but one's affiliation. And I am relieved ;)

DeltaBetaBaby 02-01-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SthrnZeta (Post 2122618)
You're right, I found all but one's affiliation. And I am relieved ;)

I believe they are posted in the first thread on this topic :-) No Zetas.

ColdInCanada11 02-01-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2122620)
I believe they are posted in the first thread on this topic :-) No Zetas.

No Alpha Gams either! I'm certain that each of the five American girls are quite lovely, and have contributed a great deal to their organisation. I just wouldn't want to risk the connections myself.

GTAlphaPhi 02-01-2012 01:37 AM

Just a few minutes of internet sleuthing revealed their NPC affiliations. I'm not 100% sure I've made the right girl-GLO match for one of them, but am pretty confident. They're intentionally written in white so as to not be easily readable, but those who want to know can highlight the text. Some of the footage seems to have been misleading in that aspect - they clearly showed an American sorority house with a huge Alphie rug, but none of the American Sigma Gammas are ADPis.


Amelia Smith: Kappa Delta at the University of Florida

Devan Lockhert: Delta Gamma at the University of Washington

Dominique Kruse: Delta Delta Delta at the University of Colorado at Boulder

Arianna Kjos: Delta Gamma at the University of California - Irvine

Hannah Hagler - maybe Delta Gamma at the California State University - Long Beach

TPA85 02-01-2012 02:10 AM

Appparently 400+ people felt the same way I felt when I watched it tonight:
http://www.change.org/petitions/tlcs...ow-off-the-air

ColdInCanada11 02-01-2012 02:22 AM

While I in no way think that this portrays Greek life in a positive manner, I think it is important to remember that this was created by e4, a British channel, so it's not TLC who made the show. I completely understand that they chose to air it, but many of the complaints accompanying the petition are based on TLC making the show.

BetaGirl 02-01-2012 07:45 PM

I don't know how I feel. I found the American girl's twitters and they seem like nice girls, i almost feel bad for them. I've also seen other episodes and to be honest I did like them. I mean the Americans were good and I didn't find them as embarrassing as most seem too. I do think that some of the stuff was a bit ridiculous and that they did partake in really hyped up rituals and pledge cuts I would say. I like though how the British girls interacted later on and that they do philanthropic stuff. However, in that preview on TLC it looks like they are throwing up from drinking- that's a misleading preview if I ever saw one.

I agree with ColdInCanada11 on a lot of your points you make in the thread.

If any one wants to twitter stalk in true Sorority fashion lol here they are:

@AmeliaSmith929 (President)
@AriannaKjos (Philanthropy)
@DevanLockhert (Social or Entertainment)
@DomKruse (Standards)
@HannahHagler (Social or Entertainment)

lol I get the Social and Entertainment chair mixed up.

ColdInCanada11 02-01-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaGirl (Post 2122837)
I don't know how I feel. I found the American girl's twitters and they seem like nice girls, i almost feel bad for them. I've also seen other episodes and to be honest I did like them. I mean the Americans were good and I didn't find them as embarrassing as most seem too. I do think that some of the stuff was a bit ridiculous and that they did partake in really hyped up rituals and pledge cuts I would say. I like though how the British girls interacted later on and that they do philanthropic stuff. However, in that preview on TLC it looks like they are throwing up from drinking- that's a misleading preview if I ever saw one.

I agree with ColdInCanada11 on a lot of your points you make in the thread.

If any one wants to twitter stalk in true Sorority fashion lol here they are:

@AmeliaSmith929 (President)
@AriannaKjos (Philanthropy)
@DevanLockhert (Social or Entertainment)
@DomKruse (Standards)
@HannahHagler (Social or Entertainment)

lol I get the Social and Entertainment chair mixed up.

Thanks :)

I've been reading a ton of stuff on t.witter, tumblr, etc, and I've had a few thoughts. I really do not think that Greek life as it exists in North America would be successful in the UK. I read a total fraternity move column about the show, about how they are ruining an American tradition. (Sidenote- I don't put any stock in this. It just appears like many women have been posting this as a reason why TLC should not be airing SG.)

Yes, my Fraternity was founded by American women, but I am a Canadian member. There are many traditions that are a staple of Greek life without question in the US that are found nowhere near our Greek system (ie. tailgating, themed socials, "grab a date", etc). In Canada, we often get mocked because people believe that things that are common in the US are common here as well. If we had a "Boats and Hos" type mixer (I've seen numerous pictures of the like on various social media sites), we would be publicly mocked. We spend a lot of our time defending our organizations. I think that campus culture (particularly in other countries and continents) needs to be taken into consideration.
The article also said there is no tradition. Traditions have to begin somewhere. Some start in 1851, others 1904, and some in 2011.

This is not an NPC sorority, so it's not representing NPC sororities. Many people say, "it's portraying all Greek life poorly". Well, quite frankly, if you are concerned with what teenagers and young adults in the UK think of you, you've got far too much time on your hands. Even if you do end up living in the UK, I highly doubt that in 5-10 years someone in business will write you off because of a reality show in 2011. There are also NPC sorority chapters who represent NPC sororities poorly (thinking of all those formal debacles last academic year).

A lot of people also seem to think that TLC produced the show:rolleyes:

Ps. Just have to say, I'm nowhere okay with the hazing involved in their rituals.

AnotherKD 02-02-2012 09:56 AM

Just looked up their affiliations..... Oh, dear.

Mevara 02-02-2012 04:28 PM

The girls at our campus have heard of this and are not very happy with its portrayal of greek life. These are girls at one of the American sister's campus, I don't know how it is going to reflect for her and her chapter. Yikes!

IndianaSigKap 02-02-2012 05:14 PM

Did the British women know that the sorority wasn't real and it was all for TV? and/or good fun? Didn't watch the show but after reading the threads wondered how the British women felt about it.

ElieM 02-02-2012 07:41 PM

Given that part of the prize was a GBP25,000 trust fund to "continue on the sorority" - it may or may not have been all for tv/good fun

tangerine1221 02-03-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTAlphaPhi (Post 2122637)
Just a few minutes of internet sleuthing revealed their NPC affiliations. I'm not 100% sure I've made the right girl-GLO match for one of them, but am pretty confident. They're intentionally written in white so as to not be easily readable, but those who want to know can highlight the text. Some of the footage seems to have been misleading in that aspect - they clearly showed an American sorority house with a huge Alphie rug, but none of the American Sigma Gammas are ADPis.


Amelia Smith: Kappa Delta at the University of Florida

Devan Lockhert: Delta Gamma at the University of Washington

Dominique Kruse: Delta Delta Delta at the University of Colorado at Boulder

Arianna Kjos: Delta Gamma at the University of California - Irvine

Hannah Hagler - maybe Delta Gamma at the California State University - Long Beach


You definitely got the right house for Hannah:

http://champagnelifestyles.blogspot....-patching.html

UFgatorLove 02-03-2012 12:18 AM

Affiliations
 
The president on the show from UF was her chapter's president 2 or 3 years ago. Her chapter held a sisterhood to watch the reveal on Tuesday..

GTAlphaPhi 02-03-2012 09:48 AM

It'll be interesting to see if the American girls' GLOs react to this show. It'll be especially interesting to see how the one GLO that is overrepresented among the 5 girls (3 out of 5) will react.

shirley1929 02-13-2012 01:29 PM

Did TLC drop this show already? I tried to DVR an episode and it has disappeared from the lineup?

Vitashort 07-01-2012 06:49 PM

I just started to watch it online to see what it was all about and not that far into it, it seems very superfical and intimidating. I am considering rushing and so i am glad people are saying this isn't what sorority life is like because i am kind of a reserved person. I like to have fun, but it just comes off as too glamorous,controversial and a bit stuck up on the show. Everything that I am not. I hope when I rush I don't feel so intimidated. I mean in one girls intro you see her walking out with like 10 bags of clothes..I'm in college, 2 jobs and can't afford anything haha. I will be lucky enough to afford a sorority. And did i mention that a couple of the girls were wearing gloves? That is just too fancy for me lol. I am sure people do this, but i haven't witnessed it in the 21st century..


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