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tinyTIM52410 08-15-2011 12:18 AM
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DrPhil 08-15-2011 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tinyTIM52410 (Post 2079957)
I have to say that HAZING, in moderation, can be a good. Hazing your pledges builds unity amongst the class and it also weeds out the pledges that will not fit into or represent the house the way you and your Alumni want it to be. I have seen many people on here complaining about how they were "punished" during pledging, or as you people would like to candy coat it "New Member Education Period", for getting a question wrong when an active member asked you a question about the house that you wanted to be a part of. If they tell you to sing a nursery rhyme in public, SUCK IT UP, you will break out of your shell. If they tell you to do 20 push ups, SUCK IT UP, you might lose a few pounds. If you are getting yelled at for something that is so stupid that you want to laugh to their face, SUCK IT UP, it's good practice for life.
That being said some hazing is just pointless and there is no thought or reason behind it. Making a pledge eat a vomit covered bar of soap has no benefit on the pledge in life unless they are into some messed up scat shit, but I am not passing judgement.
Pledging isn't just about learning to be a brother or a sister, it teaches you about life. And remember that if you aren't happy with the pledge program you are in, the door is right over there and no one is going to think any less of you because you walked away with your head held high. Just don't start telling house secrets to everyone because that's when you will end up getting your ass kicked.
We were JUST wondering what you thought about this topic. Thanks. Greekchat can now go to sleep. See you tomorrow.

knight_shadow 08-15-2011 02:53 AM
^^^ Yep. It's always great getting life lessons from someone who's been around since spring 2011.

victoriana 08-15-2011 02:56 AM
Oh, you two. Always making me laugh. But for real, OP, are you being serious?

preciousjeni 08-15-2011 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tinyTIM52410 (Post 2079957)
I have to say that HAZING, in moderation, can be a good.
Mirthed at the qualification in bold.

MysticCat 08-15-2011 09:16 AM
What fraternity are you a member of, tinyTIM?

moe.ron 08-15-2011 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2080038)
What fraternity are you a member of, tinyTIM?
Fraternity and if you're a national, which chapter.

tinyTIM52410 08-15-2011 11:48 PM
I'm a member of a local fraternity at a school that is famous for pledge programs that have killed pledges in the past.
I am not going to say the specific GLO that I am a part of, because I don't want to.

Always AlphaGam 08-15-2011 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tinyTIM52410 (Post 2080453)
I'm a member of a local fraternity at a school that is famous for pledge programs that have killed pledges in the past.
I am not going to say the specific GLO that I am a part of, because I don't want to.
QFP.

Thanks to GC detectives, you've probably said enough to figure it out.

PiKA2001 08-15-2011 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tinyTIM52410 (Post 2080453)
I'm a member of a local fraternity at a school that is famous for pledge programs that have killed pledges in the past.
You must be so proud...

naraht 08-16-2011 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Always AlphaGam (Post 2080456)
QFP.

Thanks to GC detectives, you've probably said enough to figure it out.
Well given his other posting (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...05#post2059605) updating the information on what locals are at Alfred State and that Alfred University had Klan Alpine/Chuck Stenzel, I'm pretty sure that he goes to one or the other.

And with continued research...

All of the hits online for tinytim52410 lead back here in some way or another, so we drop back and look for handles of tinytim and Alfred. The first hit for those two is a page on Formspring (http://www.formspring.me/nowpHATEends) which (surprise, surprise) is for someone who gives their bio as "Mu Theta Brother Real Name is Chris". Mu Theta is a local at Alfred State (http://mutheta.com/index.html). A picture of Chris is on the formspring page.

MysticCat 08-16-2011 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2080522)
Well given his other posting (http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...05#post2059605) updating the information on what locals are at Alfred State and that Alfred University had Klan Alpine/Chuck Stenzel, I'm pretty sure that he goes to one or the other.

And with continued research...

All of the hits online for tinytim52410 lead back here in some way or another, so we drop back and look for handles of tinytim and Alfred. The first hit for those two is a page on Formspring (http://www.formspring.me/nowpHATEends) which (surprise, surprise) is for someone who gives their bio as "Mu Theta Brother Real Name is Chris". Mu Theta is a local at Alfred State (http://mutheta.com/index.html). A picture of Chris is on the formspring page.
Excellent work, naraht.

I wonder if tinyTim/Chris is familiar with Alfred State's Hazing poliies. :rolleyes:

BluPhire 08-16-2011 09:15 AM
Yes you have made me seen the light, you and these videos. I think hazing is misunderstood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRNS0...layer_embedded - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBDh...feature=relmfu - Part 2

NSFW because of language and a quick scene.

Hazing is good. :D

naraht 08-16-2011 09:28 AM
Continuing research...
 
Switching around, searching for "tinytim alfred state" shows a facebook page (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...HXZQZceX-xF61Q) (ugly URL) (You know you go to Alfred State) that included "Chris Tinytim Chambers". (I can't get to facebook right now). That should give a link to his facebook page.

I'll be happy to take other people's research on this, even if they disprove mine. :)

(Thinking about the level of research that would be able to be done on *me* given what's out on the internet, with about 15 minutes work, you could probably find out my fraternity, my chapter & School, my national and chapter numbers, the members of my pledge class, the date I initiated, my bigs and littles and I *think* the chapter office that I held)

agzg 08-16-2011 09:57 AM
Fuck you, dude. I'm sure your chapter is one of the reasons my parents were really nervous about me going Greek, and told me that if I did I'd have a lot of proving to do in order for them to support me.

So, fuck you.

als463 08-16-2011 10:01 AM
So, until I moved to NY, I had never heard of Alfred State. Then I bought a certain book that mentioned the fraternities at Alfred State and the various deaths associated. It took me two seconds, before anyone else even brought it up, to figure it was most likely at Alfred State. The OP is a moron. Good job, buddy! You should be proud! Keep hazing for an organization that no one will have ever heard / care about once you leave college. Here's your Darwin award.

*Note: Hazing, in my eyes, isn't good for ANY organization (local or national).

DrPhil 08-16-2011 10:24 AM
I never understood the purpose behind message board researchers. Let idiots be idiots. There is no need to call out institutions, potentially call out GLOs, and potentially make someone identifiable as a person.

Like I said, let idiots be idiots. GC is not that serious. GCers should have way too much awesome stuff in their personal and professional lives than to research this stuff and POST what they find. As far as I'm concerned there's no difference between the "GC psychos" and this. That goes for naraht and anyone else.

naraht 08-16-2011 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2080546)
Fuck you, dude. I'm sure your chapter is one of the reasons my parents were really nervous about me going Greek, and told me that if I did I'd have a lot of proving to do in order for them to support me.

So, fuck you.
Was this aimed at the original poster, or my research just above your post?

naraht 08-16-2011 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2080556)
I never understood the purpose behind message board researchers. Let idiots be idiots. There is no need to call out institutions, potentially call out GLOs, and potentially make someone identifiable as a person.

Like I said, let idiots be idiots. GC is not that serious. GCers should have way too much awesome stuff in their personal and professional lives than to research this stuff and POST what they find. As far as I'm concerned there's no difference between the "GC psychos" and this. That goes for naraht and anyone else.
I viewed it as him giving us a puzzle, he willingly gave a clue to his school, I solved the puzzle. (I like solving puzzles)

More seriously, as long as his school and fraternity aren't known then his statements make all GLOs everywhere look bad. If his school and fraternity are known then the specific bad apple group is identified and my Fraternity and yours aren't tagged with the "Hazing is Good" BS.

I was also waiting for a program to finish running and it was this research or continuing some checking on Wikipedia...

agzg 08-16-2011 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2080563)
Was this aimed at the original poster, or my research just above your post?
The OP. I believe the most recent fraternity death at Alfred University happened right before I prepared to go off to college, and since I grew up within 45 minutes of Alfred, it was still really fresh in my parents' minds when I decided I wanted to join during my sophomore year.

DrPhil 08-16-2011 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2080568)
I viewed it as him giving us a puzzle, he willingly gave a clue to his school, I solved the puzzle. (I like solving puzzles)
You not only wasted time solving a "puzzle" but you posted what you found. Congrats. I put you in the same category as the "GC Psychos."

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2080568)
More seriously, as long as his school and fraternity aren't known then his statements make all GLOs everywhere look bad. If his school and fraternity are known then the specific bad apple group is identified and my Fraternity and yours aren't tagged with the "Hazing is Good" BS.
No, it doesn't "make all GLOs everywhere look bad." Don't try to speak for what makes my SORORITY look bad. This is definitely not it.

I am now amused that you think researching "make all GLOs everywhere" look less bad. Usernames can be passed off as stupid people who may not even be in a GLO. Once you research the school and other things, you are making the username more real and telling more information than necessary.

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2080568)
I was also waiting for a program to finish running and it was this research or continuing some checking on Wikipedia...
So, after that other excuse, you are now pretending that this was just done to pass time. Whatever. Carry on. I would normally let a thread like this die but I never like when people do this type of message board research. I felt it needed to be said for the kazillionth time.

Ghostwriter 08-16-2011 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2080579)
I never like when people do this type of message board research. I felt it needed to be said for the kazillionth time.
Hell freezes over. I agree with you.:confused:

preciousjeni 08-16-2011 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 2080535)
Yes you have made me seen the light, you and these videos. I think hazing is misunderstood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRNS0...layer_embedded - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBDh...feature=relmfu - Part 2

NSFW because of language and a quick scene.

Hazing is good. :D
I can't bring myself to watch this again. I was slain and had an out of body experience the last time when I lost my breath from laughing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2080579)
I would normally let a thread like this die but I never like when people do this type of message board research. I felt it needed to be said for the kazillionth time.
I know many GCers feel this way, but if you put yourself out there to be scrutinized, and the information is public, what's the problem? I can understand not posting a person's address/phone number, etc. but linking to other websites? Not seeing the issue.

DrPhil 08-16-2011 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 2080837)
I know many GCers feel this way, but if you put yourself out there to be scrutinized, and the information is public, what's the problem? I can understand not posting a person's address/phone number, etc. but linking to other websites? Not seeing the issue.
If it was so obvious it wouldn't require research. We would know the information when we clicked on the GC threads.

People who set themselves up to be scrutinized don't necessarily know they are setting themselves up to be researched. If GCers want to put people on blast like that they should also know that there are potential negative outcomes to putting people on blast like that. And I'm not just talking about my negative opinion of the practice.


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