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magnolia10 02-16-2010 04:58 PM

Sophomore Rushing at Texas
 
I'm a current freshman at UT Austin. I didn't rush my freshman year because I'm out-of-state and wanted to get to know the campus and the Greek Life a little better before I rushed. I'm planning to rush next fall (2010) and I know that I will be at a disadvantage because of my residence and my classification. However, the word on the street is that the Panhellenic Council voted to allow each chapter a sophomore quota of 4. I also have some good friends in sororities who would be willing to help me out.

My question is this: What are my chances, with good recs, perfect grades and a decent resume, of getting into one of the non-Big 6 sororities? I know you're supposed to go into rush with an open mind, but I'm aware that I have almost no chance of getting a bid in any of the top sororities, and I feel that I would fit in better with the smaller ones anyway. Should I even bother rushing?

Thank you all so much!

sigmadiva 02-16-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by magnolia10 (Post 1897621)
I'm a current freshman at UT Austin. I didn't rush my freshman year because I'm out-of-state and wanted to get to know the campus and the Greek Life a little better before I rushed. I'm planning to rush next fall (2010) and I know that I will be at a disadvantage because of my residence and my classification. However, the word on the street is that the Panhellenic Council voted to allow each chapter a sophomore quota of 4. I also have some good friends in sororities who would be willing to help me out.

My question is this: What are my chances, with good recs, perfect grades and a decent resume, of getting into one of the non-Big 6 sororities? I know you're supposed to go into rush with an open mind, but I'm aware that I have almost no chance of getting a bid in any of the top sororities, and I feel that I would fit in better with the smaller ones anyway. Should I even bother rushing?

Thank you all so much!

QFP

APhi4Ever 02-16-2010 06:23 PM

I've never heard of the phrase "non-Big 6 sororities" and it rubs me the wrong way. What does this refer to, the other 8 chapters at UT that are not considered top tier? Nobody is able to tell you whether you will get a bid from any of the 14 NPC sororities at the University of Texas. You shouldn't listen to tiers and which sororities are considered top tier, middle tier, or bottom tier and go into recruitment with an open mind.

srmom 02-16-2010 06:37 PM

Absolutely rush this fall, but go into it with an open mind as people have stated.

Knowing girls in the houses will help you immensely, and if it is so that there is going to be a separate sophomore/upperclass quota, then all the better.

Good luck.:)

KSUViolet06 02-16-2010 06:46 PM

We can't really tell you what your chances are. We are not in those chapters at UT and do not know what they are looking for.

I do know that grades and recs are a must.

Just be aware that you'll be in recruitment with mostly freshmen, with many of them having perfect grades and resumes, and that an upperclassman quota does not = guarantee of a bid (not saying that's what you think, but I've heard PNMs say that).

This UT thread has some good info and links in it:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=98566

magnolia10 02-16-2010 08:38 PM

I'm sorry, APhi4ever... I didn't mean to offend you. I guess I was using the phrases I'm accustomed to hearing from my friends. I wasn't trying to imply that I believe the tier system that some other people use... Honestly I don't care how other people "rank" a chapter, I just want to find the one that fits me, and I thought I had an idea of which ones those might be. But you're right, I should be more open-minded about them before going in. I really appreciate all of your responses!

KSUViolet06 02-16-2010 08:50 PM

I forgot to add this thread:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...exas+sophomore

texas*princess 02-16-2010 09:59 PM

No one can tell you what your chances are. All we can say is be prepared, put your best foot forward and hope for the best.

Just interested 02-16-2010 10:19 PM

Just go and have fun! I too have heard that there will be a sophomore quota this next year.(At least that's the word on the street) I didn't know it had been set at 4. That is great news since pledge classes are not that large. Do they still have the 2 free junior rule at UT? If so, that allows spots for 6 upper class pnms and that would be great for everyone. I have heard, again a rumor, that some groups may not take take advantage of the upper class quota but that's up to them but it is nice for those who choose to to be able to be able to take advantage of those additions.

Barbie's_Rush 02-18-2010 06:33 PM

Please keep in mind that just because a chapter can take free upper classmen doesn't mean they will.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 01:13 AM

So no hope for me then :(
 
I am currently a sophmore and wanted to rush as an incoming junior. I guess thats not going to happen for me? I am a little picky about which sorority i join. Does anyone know the recruiting process for UT Tri-Delts?

LadyLonghorn 03-05-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904288)
I am currently a sophmore and wanted to rush as an incoming junior. I guess thats not going to happen for me? I am a little picky about which sorority i join. Does anyone know the recruiting process for UT Tri-Delts?

I swear if this stuff is starting already I am going to have a full on stroke before August.

Just interested 03-05-2010 01:20 AM

I would pretty much say, no hope!

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904288)
I am currently a sophmore and wanted to rush as an incoming junior. I guess thats not going to happen for me? I am a little picky about which sorority i join. Does anyone know the recruiting process for UT Tri-Delts?

Tri Delta's membership selection process is private.

I'm going to be honest, if you are picky, you'd better become unpicky very soon because you will not have as many options as your typical freshman PNM is going to have.

Being open-minded is a good thing. It's not a good idea to go through recruitment only wanting certain sororities because those may not even be interested in you.

If you're going to "be picky" and exclude chapters or only focus on certain ones, prepare to go without a bid (especially as a junior).

Good luck.


amyclaire 03-05-2010 01:36 AM

Its just preference, Ive been trying to do my research and look into sororities that I think I would be compatible with, I dont want to just jump on to whoever gives me bids is all. If I even get bids.

LadyLonghorn 03-05-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904298)
Its just preference, Ive been trying to do my research and look into sororities that I think I would be compatible with, I dont want to just jump on to whoever gives me bids is all. If I even get bids.

OK, I am officially dead now.

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904298)
Its just preference, Ive been trying to do my research and look into sororities that I think I would be compatible with, I dont want to just jump on to whoever gives me bids is all. If I even get bids.

You have alot to learn.

Recruitment is a mutual selection process, hun.

It unfortunately is not all about who you feel you're compatible with.

You can research all you want. Or think you're compatible all you want.

They have to feel the same in order for you to get the invite.

By saying "I only like these 3 or 4" you're cutting out everyone else. And who knows, the ones you like the most may drop you on the first day.

and FYI: you only receive one bid at the end of the process.

I would highly suggest educating yourself on UT recruitment before August.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 01:49 AM

What do you mean?
 
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Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1904291)
I swear if this stuff is starting already I am going to have a full on stroke before August.

I dont understand what you mean by this? I mean Im saying this because I need advice if you arent going to give any, you dont have to be rude

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904306)
I dont understand what you mean by this? I mean Im saying this because I need advice if you arent going to give any, you dont have to be rude

No one is being rude to you.

We're giving advice.

For what it's worth, we get questions about UT ALL.THE.TIME.

Esp. from upperclassmen who think they'll have their pick of the sororities in recruitment. This is not the case at UT. A junior is going to have a tough time. Moreso a "picky one."

LadyLonghorn 03-05-2010 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1904303)
You have alot to learn.

Recruitment is a mutual selection process, hun.

It unfortunately is not all about who you feel you're compatible with.

You can research all you want. Or think you're compatible all you want.

They have to feel the same in order for you to get the invite.

By saying "I only like these 3 or 4" you're cutting out everyone else. And who knows, the ones you like the most may drop you on the first day.

and FYI: you only receive one bid at the end of the process.

I would highly suggest educating yourself on UT recruitment before August.

But it's all about what she wants! It pains me so much to see a Junior with no ties to chapters have such a sense of entitlement. I know how horribly wrong things are likely going to go for her. And then she will be back here telling everyone the Texas Greek system is full of beotches.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 01:53 AM

to KSU
 
I was referring to Lady Longhorn, Im posting here because I really want to rush but Im sorry if Im not 100% aware of how it works. If I did I wouldnt be on this site.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 01:54 AM

to Lady Longhorn
 
Instead of telling me how things are going to horribly wrong for me, I wish you would give me a few pointers.

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904312)
Instead of telling me how things are going to horribly wrong for me, I wish you would give me a few pointers.



Here are some tips for you:

Get "un-picky."

Let go of who you "think you're compatible with" and be open-minded.

Get recs.

Make friends in chapters.

Hope for the best but prep for heavy cuts.

LadyLonghorn 03-05-2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904306)
I dont understand what you mean by this? I mean Im saying this because I need advice if you arent going to give any, you dont have to be rude

What I mean by that is that as a Junior you will be lucky to get a bid from ANY sorority. You will not be in a position to pick and choose unless of course you have the soul of Mother Theresa in the body of a supermodel with the brain of Einstein and all the girls in a chapter are already your BFFs and OMG will D-I-E if they don't get you.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 01:58 AM

I have really good recs, how much would that help me?

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904316)
I have really good recs, how much would that help me?

Every girl will have them. Several for each chapter. They're more of a standard than anything.

LadyLonghorn 03-05-2010 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904316)
I have really good recs, how much would that help me?

Everyone has really good recs. It only sets you apart from those few poor ill-informed women who rush without them.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 02:03 AM

I know this could be a touch subject and I apologize in advance. But how much does ethnicity play a factor in choosing? Ive looked at a few chapter websites and have noticed a lack of diversity which is understandable, however im wondering is that by choice or it just happens to be that way

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 02:03 AM

Do you have friends in chapters? That's a good thing to have as a junior.

When it comes down to it, the chapters are choosing between you and a freshman (who will be in school for 4 years).

They're going to go with the freshman 99% of the time.

LadyLonghorn 03-05-2010 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1904322)
Do you have friends in chapters?

Since she's looking at web sites to draw conclusions about membership composition, my guess would be no......

amyclaire 03-05-2010 02:07 AM

yes! I do have friends in chapters. However this is a subject I try to stay away from even with them

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904324)
yes! I do have friends in chapters. However this is a subject I try to stay away from even with them

Not saying that you have to be all "OMG GET ME INTO YOUR SORORITY!"

But I think if a chapter is going to take a junior over a freshman, it is likely going to be a girl that alot of members know/like.

A junior also has to have alot of leadership and campus activities on her resume to compete with freshmen with TONS of activities from HS.

And also, good grades. Many many girls will have perfect GPAs from HS.

amyclaire 03-05-2010 03:07 AM

I wonder does UT still have the "free junior" thing? Where the number of juniors doesn't count into the quota

KSUViolet06 03-05-2010 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904345)
I wonder does UT still have the "free junior" thing? Where the number of juniors doesn't count into the quota

There have been rumors that they might be using some sort of "upperclassman quota" but I don't know.

Also, just because a chapter has the option to take sophs and juniors, does mean they will do so.

See this thread:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=111915

mmb77 03-05-2010 02:43 PM

There are several groups at UT, such as Texas Sweethearts, Wrangler Darlin's, Texas Spirits, that definitely give you that "sorority-feel." As everyone else has said, recruitment at Texas is VERY competitive and VERY difficult, and even more so if you are not a freshman or do not have a lot of close upperclassman friends in the sororities that can pull for you. If rush does not work out, I suggest you look into these spirit groups, because they are a very good alternative if you are looking for all the aspects of a sorority. Good luck!

Benzgirl 03-06-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904345)
I wonder does UT still have the "free junior" thing? Where the number of juniors doesn't count into the quota


Done!

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FSUZeta 03-06-2010 02:29 PM

i believe that the "free juniors" feature only allowed "x" number of juniors to be freebies-like 5 or less.

mittens 03-06-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by amyclaire (Post 1904345)
I wonder does UT still have the "free junior" thing? Where the number of juniors doesn't count into the quota

After reading what everyone else has written about UT, you can come to the conclusion that as a junior, recs are a necessity, have a very high gpa, know sorority women, be involved, etc.

You are fighting against freshmen and even sophomores, so your chances of getting into a "top chapter" or the ones that you've done researched on and "like" are probably slim to none. Why would they pick you up over a freshmen or a sophomore? Even though you have friends in sororities at UT, that could help, but the people who you talk to recruitment may or may not like you. So it's a possiblility you may get cut from your friend's house as well.

Let me just say that even though you have done "research" on these sororities, you are liking them based on what you see on the outside. Give all sororities a fair chance during recruitment, feelings will change.

amyclaire 03-09-2010 08:07 PM

I really appreciate all the help you ladies have been giving! I didn't realize just how much went into rushing with recs and quotas and everything. I know I have alot going against me. Being a sophomore and all. Ive heard many negative things about AA girls rushing but I'm going to give it my all! Thanks Ladies!

TXAPhiGirl 07-03-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mmb77 (Post 1904503)
There are several groups at UT, such as Texas Sweethearts, Wrangler Darlin's, Texas Spirits, that definitely give you that "sorority-feel." As everyone else has said, recruitment at Texas is VERY competitive and VERY difficult, and even more so if you are not a freshman or do not have a lot of close upperclassman friends in the sororities that can pull for you. If rush does not work out, I suggest you look into these spirit groups, because they are a very good alternative if you are looking for all the aspects of a sorority. Good luck!

I just gave this advice to another PNM sophomore rushing at Texas. These are great groups too!

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Originally Posted by APhi4Ever (Post 1897664)
I've never heard of the phrase "non-Big 6 sororities" and it rubs me the wrong way. What does this refer to, the other 8 chapters at UT that are not considered top tier? Nobody is able to tell you whether you will get a bid from any of the 14 NPC sororities at the University of Texas. You shouldn't listen to tiers and which sororities are considered top tier, middle tier, or bottom tier and go into recruitment with an open mind.

Yep, sadly this still exists. What's funny, is I was always told the "Big 6" were the first 6 sororities on campus, but who knows. Over time, some chapters have grown bigger than other chapters, etc. It is what it is.

What's interesting to me is that there would be any Sophomore or Junior at Texas who hasn't been exposed to at least ONE girl in a class that was a member of a chapter (any sorority), unless you're a transfer. I mean, your friends CAN help you, but you can't bank on them. Now, I've also seen it, especially with sophomores, where the friend is doing everything she can to pull the girl through, but ultimately, it comes down to quota and the good of the house.


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