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babydoll2012 01-03-2009 07:28 PM

New Brutally Honest Recruitment Thread!
 
Hey everyone! I'm actually a different user on here, but I'm really dying to write my brutally honest recruitment story. Complete annonymity will protect both myself and the people I am talking about. I was inspired by another brutally honest recruitment story from a few years ago, so since I'm going to be going through rush in a couple weeks, I want to write as I go and be able to be as honest and accurate as possible. Since my campus has deferred recruitment, I'll start at the beginning of the semester. I don't know how this is all going to turn out, so I don't know what's important and what isn't. Please bear with me. Okay, here we go!

Now the sororities. Code names: Greek Godesses. I don't know if any of these go with actual sororities, so pardon me if they do. It's unintentional.
Athena
Artemis
Aphrodite
Demeter
Hera
Hestia
Pandora


High school was not the best time of my life. I was a little dorky and naive for the first half of school, and once I finally "bloomed" between junior and senior year, I began to feel like I didn't fit in with my group of friends anymore. Once graduation came around, I was tired of feeling held back by them, and broke away from them completely. Then I met Vincent (not his real name). He was a great guy, who happened to be a good bit older than I was, and we dated all summer and into the first semester.

And this brings us to the first semester. There really isn't much to tell because most of my free time was spent with Vincent. I didn't end up going out all that much, and when I did I would either not drink or would only drink a little so that I didn't end up doing anything stupid. Fair enough, right? But by October I was barely ever going out, and would spend entire weekends with Vincent. I started to neglect some of the people I had become friends with. I pretty much hung out with my roommate and the people I knew from classes and girls on my floor.

While Vincent wasn't a big supporter, I was always dead-set on going Greek. A lot of the girls on my floor were doing it too, so I knew I wouldn't be alone. So I started researching and looking at the girls I knew who were Greek. Through classes, I knew a
Hera, a Pandora, two Demeters, and a few Aphrodites. I really liked all of these girls. A lot of my friends from my floor went to Meet the Greeks together in September. I really loved Artemis, and I ended up talking to them for the majority of the event. I also got along really well, again, with Pandora. I didn't particularly click with Hestia, and I just wasn’t into Athena.


In the next episode:
Skip ahead to November. Vincent and I break up, and I decide it's time to experience the "college lifestyle" at last. Excessive drinking, partying, and madness ensues...

Benzgirl 01-03-2009 07:38 PM

Please tell me that Vincent didn't go to Meet the Greeks with you (calling KSU Violet)

babydoll2012 01-03-2009 07:53 PM

No no, he was older and out of college.

KSUViolet06 01-04-2009 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1760823)
Please tell me that Vincent didn't go to Meet the Greeks with you (calling KSUViolet)

LOL. That was quite possibly the weirdest thing ever.

babydoll2012 01-07-2009 04:10 PM

Sorry, I don't have time to write a whole lot right now because life is going a little crazy (in a good way). So here's just a quick update to keep the ball rolling.

I realized I never really "rated" the sororities thus far, so here's my initial idea of each one. I know, you're not really supposed to rank sororities before you go through rush, but it's not exactly a big school, and I can't help it :D

Athena: These are the "fat girls" if you will. Everyone I've met from this group is VERY nice, but a little awkward. I haven't really met anyone from here that I really felt a particularly strong connection with.

Artemis: At Meet the Greeks in the fall I absolutely loved these girls. I ended up talking to about 5 or 6 of them for nearly an hour. Absolutely no one compared to them. Everyone was gorgeous and so friendly. I just clicked with everyone I spoke with. Probably my top choice thus far.

Aphrodite: Ehh. I know a few girls from here, but as a group they're just not my favorite. They aren't the most popular house, and they make sure everyone knows that they aren't the "fat" house like Athena. Generally, I found these girls a bit stuck up, although there are a couple I really like.

Demeter: This is a newer chapter on campus, so it's not as established. There really isn't a campus-wide reputation for these girls, but in my experience, they're pretty cool. I like them, but they aren't my top choice.

Hera: This is the "slutty" chapter. I think they seem like fun, and everyone i've met from this group is cool. Maybe a little unfriendly to some, but I've never had a problem with any of them. I actually really like them. They're very honest and straight forward.

Hestia: Another "ehh" house. Not bad, but not great. I'm kind of neutral about this one.

Pandora: The "pretty" girls. They have a reputation for being snobby rich girls, but I haven't experienced this AT ALL. I loved them at Meet The Greeks as well, although I didn't get to talk to them as much as I would have liked to. My friends Serena and Blair (they're coming in the next segment, and these aren't their real names) are dead-set on this group. I'd say this group is tied for first with Artemis.


So, there you have it. My pre-rush rankings look something like this:

1. Artemis
2. Pandora
3. Hera
4. Hestia
5. Demeter
6. Athena
7. Aphrodite

Although things move around all the time. I really like the top 3 A LOT, and I think it's going to be hard for me to choose just one :)

epchick 01-07-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydoll2012 (Post 1762301)
Sorry, I don't have time to write a whole lot right now because life is going a little crazy right now (in a good way). So here's just a quick update to keep the ball rolling.

I realized I never really "rated" the sororities thus far, so here's my initial idea of each sorority. I know, you're not really supposed to rank sororities before you go through rush, but it's not exactly a big school, and I can't help it :D

Athena: These are the "fat girls" if you will. Everyone I've met from this group is VERY nice, but a little awkward. I haven't really met anyone from here that I really felt a particularly strong connection with. I'm not particularly fond of them, but I don't dislike them I guess.
Artemis: At Meet the Greeks in the fall I absolutely loved these girls. I ended up talking to about 5 or 6 of them for nearly an hour. Absolutely no one compared to them. Everyone was gorgeous and so friendly. I just clicked with everyone I spoke with. Probably my top choice thus far.

Aphrodite: Ehh.I know a few girls from here, but as a group they're just not my favorite. They aren't the most popular house, and they make sure everyone knows that they aren't the "fat" house like Athena. Generally, I found these girls a bit stuck up, although there are a couple I really like.

Demeter: This is a newer chapter on campus, so it's not as established. There really isn't a campus-wide reputation for these girls, but in my experience, they're very nice. I like them, but they aren't my top choice.

Hera: This is the "slutty" chapter. I think they seem like fun, and everyone i've met from this group is cool. Maybe a little unfriendly to some, but I've never had a problem with any of them. I actually really like them. They're very honest and straight forward.

Hestia: Another "ehh" house. Not bad, but not great. I'm kind of neutral about this one.

Pandora: The "pretty" girls. They have a reputation for being snobby rich girls, but I haven't experienced this AT ALL. I loved them at Meet The Greeks as well, although I didn't get to talk to them as much as I would have liked to. My friends Serena and Blair (they're coming in the next segment, and these aren't their real names) are dead-set on this group. I'd say this group is tied for first with Artemis.


So, there you have it. My pre-rush rankings look something like this:

1. Artemis
1. Pandora
3. Hera
4. Hestia
5. Demeter
6. Athena
7. Aphrodite

Although things move around all the time. I really like the top 3 A LOT, and I think it's going to be hard for me to choose just one :)

Wait, you were a freshman when you rushed, correct? So these are just based on your impression at Meet the Greek?

babydoll2012 01-07-2009 06:08 PM

I'm a freshman now, and I have deferred rush, so this is based on all of the fall semester. I haven't rushed yet, this is in progress.

APhiAnna 01-07-2009 06:28 PM

Ooooh let's let this one roll, I want to see how it turns out, nobody scare her away like they do in some recruitment threads.

KSUViolet06 01-07-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APhiAnna (Post 1762367)
Ooooh let's let this one roll, I want to see how it turns out, nobody scare her away like they do in some recruitment threads.


Me too. We love honesty, especially when the person posting hasn't even gone through recruitment yet. How refreshing! Can't wait to hear more!

true_blue 01-08-2009 11:20 AM

Watching and reading.... :)

33girl 01-08-2009 12:47 PM

Can you use the real names instead of the fake ones? I hate wondering which is which and if my sorority's involved, I want an honest opinion of what rushees think of us! :)

agzg 01-08-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1762645)
Can you use the real names instead of the fake ones? I hate wondering which is which and if my sorority's involved, I want an honest opinion of what rushees think of us! :)

Maybe she'd be willing to send people the code if they PM her and ask?

babydoll2012 01-08-2009 03:23 PM

Yeah feel free to PM me if you really can't stand the mystery :)

ThetaPrincess24 01-08-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1762645)
Can you use the real names instead of the fake ones? I hate wondering which is which and if my sorority's involved, I want an honest opinion of what rushees think of us! :)

I think that should be a rule when starting a "brutally honest" thread :)

babydoll2012 01-08-2009 05:03 PM

WOW guys, I didn't realize that so many people were reading this. I was logged on before class, went to class, and when I came back I had 5 PMs for the code. Thanks for being so interested, it makes me feel special :p

indygphib 01-08-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydoll2012 (Post 1762786)
WOW guys, I didn't realize that so many people were reading this. I was logged on before class, went to class, and when I came back I had 5 PMs for the code. Thanks for being so interested, it makes me feel special :p

But you ARE special! :) We are totally glued to this thread! Can't wait to hear more!

babydoll2012 01-08-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APhiAnna (Post 1762367)
Ooooh let's let this one roll, I want to see how it turns out, nobody scare her away like they do in some recruitment threads.

Someone's trying to scare me away already, and although I don't scare easily, I think she may have a point. I'm going to keep writing, but i'm not giving out the code anymore. I might end up changing the codes completely, but that might be too much work. My school isn't all that competitive, but better safe than sorry, right?

agzg 01-08-2009 06:44 PM

Eek I'm sorry I made the suggestion!

babydoll2012 01-08-2009 08:04 PM

Okay, well, looks like I'm going to stop writing. After just a few days, I've already been "scared" off. I've already received a few unfriendly PMs from people, as well as a few friendly warnings from people who actually seem to mean well. If someone would honestly try to ruin my rush experience because I said that one of the sororities on my campus has a reputation for being the "fat girls," or the "snobby" girls even though that's NOT MY PERSONAL OPINION, well, maybe I just don't want anything to do with sororities anyway. As a naturally optimistic person, I just find it hard to believe that some people can be so cruel. I believe that the sorority girls at my school have more class than some of the girls I've found here. So, hopefully, IF I do go through rush, I'll find real women instead of catty girls. And thanks to everyone who has been genuinely supportive, I really appreciate it.

kddani 01-08-2009 08:18 PM

boo to someone ruining the only actual "brutally honest" recruitment thread we have - the other threads that call themselves "brutally honest" are full of it!

fantASTic 01-08-2009 09:14 PM

It was highly foolish to recommend she PM the code out. A member should know that GC can and has impacted a recruitment before.

ellebud 01-08-2009 09:27 PM

A mom here: Don't let a few people scare you out of rushing. There is a definite upside: you meet new people, and you might meet your new sorority sisters. There are rude people on this planet, there are cruel, non-supportive, backstabbing PEOPLE. (Please notice that I didn't limit or include people in the Greek system.) Rush, forget the meanness that you may, or may not, have encountered, and see for yourself what if being offered. Don't give someone else the power to dictate your future.

APhiAnna 01-08-2009 09:31 PM

Arghhh for once I would love to see an 18 year old girl with an actual 18 year old girl mentality write a recruitment thread without people freaking out and kicking her off. I understand the need to be PC, but let's face it, when the overwhelming majority of girls rush there ARE things like stereotypes/pre-conceived notions/drama etc. involved in their decision making processes. Why do we have to a) pretend like they are mature 40 year wold women or b) freak out and stalk them for being an 18 year old?

If it is your opinion that a woman with that type of attitude will fail at recruitment, then let the thread run and see if it truly would happen or not. I know I went into recruitment with a LOT of negative stereotypes (as did all my friends) that affected our decisions, and it doesn't mean that we were terrible members...rather, after initiation we realized the folly of being "brutally honest" and laugh at the way we made our decisions/impressions. It all worked out and we all got chapters that we really did fit in with and were cut from those we didn't.

I can see trying to help a woman understand why stereotypes are wrong, but I don't see the point of ruining a PNM's chance at a lifetime of sisterhood, without knowing ANYTHING about her grades/accomplishments/talents, for thinking like 90% (or more) of the other PNMs going through recruitment.

Unregistered- 01-08-2009 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1762919)
It was highly foolish to recommend she PM the code out. A member should know that GC can and has impacted a recruitment before.

It's only foolish if someone recommended PMing the code with the intent of sabotaging her rush.

If someone suggests PMing the code and that person happens to be A GCer WHO TOOK A FEW YEARS OFF FROM GREEKCHAT, how the hell would she know how GC impacts rush? FWIW, alphagamzetagam and I come from a GC that did not do code names for rush stories. PNMs put themselves out there and still had great outcomes. In a perfect GC world, every rush story would be like curlygurly's.

A pox on you, alphagamzetagam, for your foolish suggestion! Let the flogging commence! :rolleyes:

agzg 01-08-2009 09:39 PM

Ack! Maybe my reading comprehension is down or my mind is going but I didn't realize this was a live recruitment. I think I'm mixing up threads now because didn't we just have a "brutally honest" thread that was retro?

A. fantASTic - get off your high horse. My comment was not the only one asking the OP for the code. As a matter of fact, I didn't even PM and ask the OP for a code. Sometimes I like just reading recruitment story threads for the entertainment value, and don't mind that I don't get the full story.

B. WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE STEREOTYPES LIKE THESE ON EVERY CAMPUS. In fact, of the five chapters that were on my campus, each of the "campus stereotypes" that were talked about here are represented. When I was a senior, a freshman asked me, upon finding out my affiliation, "why are you in the ... sorority?" It happens, and with the advent of websites that shall remain nameless, it happens quicker than it used to. I don't know why we get so surprised or offended when a PNM gets on here and mentions that there is a group on campus called the "fat sorority" or "snobby."

In fact, I would go so far as to guarantee that 90% of us, as actives on campus or as potential new members, at least once called another sorority by one of their negative stereotypes. Sure, to post it online shows a lack of discretion, which is why I don't really like the live threads anyway - they make me nervous.

I guess it's my bad though for not realizing this was live. I thought the OP was posting under a pseudonym? At any rate, maybe this thread would be better after the fact.

Just let us know how it goes, ok?

axoalum 01-08-2009 10:04 PM

Don't go away completely! Let us know how things turn out. I am crossing my fingers for you!!

babydoll2012 01-08-2009 10:12 PM

Alright, I'll come back after recruitment and finish the story, no matter what the outcome. Sound good?

BetteDavisEyes 01-08-2009 10:15 PM

Dammit. I was looking forward to your story. I had it earmarked too.

I hope you do go through recruitment and find genuine girls there that make you feel like you belong in their sisterhood. I'm sorry some asses here on GC scared you off.

Good luck and if you do log on sometime after recruitment is over, I hope you let us know how it turned out.

AEcutiePhi 01-08-2009 10:16 PM

Thank you! I hate to start reading these and never hear what happens in the end.

epchick 01-08-2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1762929)
Ack! Maybe my reading comprehension is down or my mind is going but I didn't realize this was a live recruitment.

You weren't the only one. I thought the OP had already gone through recruitment. But i'll be honest and say I assumed it after I read the OP has another name on GC.


I do hope the OP comes back and writes her recruitment story...it would be nice to read an ACTUAL brutally honest story.

agzg 01-08-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydoll2012 (Post 1762938)
Alright, I'll come back after recruitment and finish the story, no matter what the outcome. Sound good?

Sounds great. Good luck.

ep - yeah I suppose you and I both ASSumed wrong.

TriDeltaSallie 01-08-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ellebud (Post 1762924)
A mom here: Don't let a few people scare you out of rushing. Don't give someone else the power to dictate your future.

Ab.so.lute.ly. Do not let this deter you from rush in any way. Sorority membership is SO MUCH MORE than what people say on a forum or in a PM.

Have a wonderful time and please do come back and tell us how it all turns out. :)

KSUViolet06 01-08-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie (Post 1762949)
Ab.so.lute.ly. Do not let this deter you from rush in any way. Sorority membership is SO MUCH MORE than what people say on a forum or in a PM.

Have a wonderful time and please do come back and tell us how it all turns out. :)

No one is trying to deter her from rushing. They may be advising her to use a little discretion, but no one told her not to rush.

TriDeltaSallie 01-08-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1762957)
No one is trying to deter her from rushing. They may be advising her to use a little discretion, but no one told her not to rush.

Based on what she said here, I thought she sounded like she was questioning the whole sorority thing:

Quote:

Originally Posted by babydoll2012 (Post 1762890)
Okay, well, looks like I'm going to stop writing. After just a few days, I've already been "scared" off. I've already received a few unfriendly PMs from people, as well as a few friendly warnings from people who actually seem to mean well. If someone would honestly try to ruin my rush experience because I said that one of the sororities on my campus has a reputation for being the "fat girls," or the "snobby" girls even though that's NOT MY PERSONAL OPINION, well, maybe I just don't want anything to do with sororities anyway. As a naturally optimistic person, I just find it hard to believe that some people can be so cruel. I believe that the sorority girls at my school have more class than some of the girls I've found here. So, hopefully, IF I do go through rush, I'll find real women instead of catty girls. And thanks to everyone who has been genuinely supportive, I really appreciate it.

I would be genuinely sorry if any PNM decided not to rush because of something that is said here or in a PM. I just wanted to encourage her to take it with a grain of salt.
:)

GammaPhi88 01-08-2009 11:04 PM

I like the idea of a brutally honest recruitment story, but I have to agree, I think they are better used once the PNM has an outcome. I forgot that there are people on GC crazy enough to actively impact a PNM's rush, not simply read about it!

annabella 01-09-2009 02:21 AM

Too bad about the whole crazy people on the internet thing. No matter what, whether it's retro by a few weeks or a few decades, a retro thread will be biased based on the knowledge the storyteller has gained, consciously or not. The real-time threads are interesting because even if someone isn't a good writer, most evoke the emotion somewhat of looking at your schedule for the first time, cut from your favorite house, etc. It's the same reason people are willing to read blogs.

srmom 01-09-2009 06:06 PM

babydoll - good luck! I wish you the best!!

UGAalum94 01-09-2009 08:12 PM

I wasn't doing any scaring because I was looking forward to the thread, but I can see why people did.

Who are the users who have had real life impacts from GC recruitment threads? The only one I can think of was Ocalagirl, and with that situation, I think the real life impact had more to do with the suspicion of online ritual manual collecting than in anything she wrote about recruitment, but maybe I'm wrong. Since the OP here isn't coming back until after recruitment, will some of you who know of other cases summarize or post links to their threads?

To me, posting a brutally honest real time thread is mainly bad because it might kept you from being happy with your results if you end up with a bid to a chapter you presented as "lesser" throughout your thread, ETA which I think is why Annabell likes real time better. I agree that if you know your outcome, you are a whole lot less likely to be completely brutally honest.

EATA: I totally said two things stupidly here. Let me be clear: first I don't doubt that bad outcomes have occurred; I just want to hear about them. (thanks for the link, KSU) Second, I didn't mean to suggest that Annabell likes people to be unhappy with their results. I meant that she likes the way non-knowing the outcome means people are more honest.

KSUViolet06 01-09-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1763434)
For the record, I wasn't doing any scaring because I was looking forward to the thread, but I can see why people did.

Since the OP here isn't coming back until after recruitment, will some of you who know of other cases summarize or post links to their threads?

I actually asked this question before in this thread (it's been a few years):

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=77742

In short, yes there have been, and there have been more than just liltrixx/Ocalagirl.

I recall a PNM who posted a rush thread, and said some things about a chapter she preffed, but ended up getting a bid there. At some point during her NM period, a chapter member found her thread and all the stuff she'd said about the sorority. They weren't very happy about it. She ended up depeldging. I'm pretty sure the thread was deleted.

There have been many, but alot of the girls end up deleting posts/threads so people can't find them.

Also, it's not just what's said on GC that has come back to haunt PNMs, add LJ community posts, Facebook group posts, etc. to the list as well.

epchick 01-09-2009 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1763434)
Who are the users who have had real life impacts from GC recruitment threads?

I have. The thing was I never disclosed which sororities were which (although it wasn't hard to tell), but i had history with one sorority and a Rho Chi figured it out & told her sisters. I didn't really care, nor do I care now.

ETA: haha..i just noticed I posted in that link KSU posted about this as well. Oh well, i'm not ashamed of it. I didn't have an awful recruitment experience (i did get a bid to a great sorority) it just didn't work out. And now i'm glad it didn't, cause i can't imagine being anything but what i am.


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