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PiKA2001 10-22-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ADPi95 (Post 2185113)
I agree with adpimiz. I would like to think I was accepted into Texas A&M on my own merits. I'm Hispanic, but my parents instilled in me the notion that I am not special...I'm just like everybody else. You have to work hard for the things that you want. Again, that's how I was brought up.

That being said, I was in NHS, involved in drama, Student Council, and debate. When I applied to Texas A&M, I applied to the Agriculture department. I was also involved in 4H for 10 years (raised livestock, 4H State, 4H Congress, etc). My acceptance could have been based on my ethnicity, but again, I'd like to think that good grades, hard work, and achievements in the area in which decided to major in, was enough to get me in. Then again, that was 17 years ago!

After college, I earned two master's degrees in which I neither asked for, nor received, any scholarships or aid because my ethnicity (I didn't for undergrad either).

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2185768)
I did not know what a regatta was until I saw a Dawson's Creek episode in which one featured prominently. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, except to say that it may also be a regional thing (or a WASP thing?), as I grew up both white and upper-middle class.

I say regional. I grew up off of the water and sailing is pretty popular there but I wouldn't expect a landlocked high school aged kid to know what a regatta is either.

33girl 10-22-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaGreek (Post 2185756)
Though, I have noticed that names used in word problems are way more often traditionally ethnic names ("Ming, Raj and Lupita each have a bag of marbles...").

This is known as overcompensation for Sally, Dick and Jane readers and everyone having similarly WASPy names up until around the 1970s-80s. (It doesn't really help promote diversity when the teachers can't pronounce the names, just FYI.)

I laugh at the "regatta" example since the Three Rivers Regatta here is basically a yinzerfest with boats and tribute bands. In other words, hardly an "upperclass" event.

MysticCat 10-22-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2185819)
I laugh at the "regatta" example since the Three Rivers Regatta here is basically a yinzerfest with boats and tribute bands. In other words, hardly an "upperclass" event.

Yinzerfest? Yep -- regional. :D

WhiteRose1912 10-23-2012 01:57 AM

Okay, I'll bite, and I won't even use the word regatta in my example since y'all are turning your nose up at it. :p This is from Ji, Zhang, and Nisbett, 2004.

Let's say on a children's intelligence test they were given a list of words and asked to pick the two that "go together", a pretty straight-forward task:

A. Seagull
B. Squirrel
C. Tree

A. Monkey
B. Panda
C. Banana

A. Cow
B. Milk
C. Pig

A. Foot
B. Shoe
C. Hand

European American students are more likely to group based on taxonomic categorization: seagull and squirrel, monkey and panda, cow and pig, foot and hand.

East Asian students are more likely to group based on thematic categorization: squirrel and tree, monkey and banana, cow and milk, foot and shoe.

Of course, when people are talking about cultural biases in testing, they're usually less concerned with testing children. You'll see some of it in admissions testing, but a lot of the problems revolve around employee and personnel selection. Spearman's g, for instance, is a general intelligence measure that typically correlates highly with work performance, but using it will cause adverse impact for pretty much anyone who isn't a white male.

shirley1929 10-23-2012 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteRose1912 (Post 2185850)
East Asian students are more likely to group based on thematic categorization: squirrel and tree, monkey and banana, cow and milk, foot and shoe.

Interesting. I'm not EVEN close to being considered East Asian (definitely European) but I identified these groups thematically. It took me a second looking at each group to figure out how I was categorizing them, but I definitely separated them this way...

carnation 10-23-2012 03:12 PM

Do they mean East Asians who were raised over there or are they saying it's a racial thing? Because 4 of my daughters were born there and raised here from infancy and I have no idea how they'd respond.

Just interested 10-23-2012 03:19 PM

I went thematic as well and I'm a wasp. Interesting.

Tulip86 10-23-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2185961)
Interesting. I'm not EVEN close to being considered East Asian (definitely European) but I identified these groups thematically. It took me a second looking at each group to figure out how I was categorizing them, but I definitely separated them this way...

Me too. I would absolutely be considered European and I identified thematically as well.

MysticCat 10-23-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Just interested (Post 2185965)
I went thematic as well and I'm a wasp.

Ditto. But WhiteRose did say "more likely."

And carnation, I would think it would have to mean East Asian cuturally, because I would think a tendancy toward grouping one way or another would be a culturally-based, perhaps even language-based, tendancy.

carnation 10-23-2012 03:30 PM

Hunh. So our girls would supposedly lean towards our type of answers (white-Native American-black-Hispanic) rather than Asian.

AGDAlum 06-25-2013 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Also, does anyone know whether the plaintiff, Abigail Fisher, was in a sorority at LSU?[/QUOTE]

I read through all the messages in this thread but did not see an answer to this question, posed in the very first post.

GTAlphaPhi 06-25-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDAlum (Post 2222523)
I read through all the messages in this thread but did not see an answer to this question, posed in the very first post.

My gut tell me no, and her LinkedIn profile doesn't mention any social Greek organizations. It does mention Pi Sigma Epsilon, the "only national, professional fraternal organization in sales, marketing, and management in the United States" (per Wikipedia).


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