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deepimpact2 05-12-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1927846)
This is the dilemma of all professional women who choose their careers (consciously or not) over marriage and children. I've seen it so many times in medicine. People always assume that the unmarried professional must be a lesbian. I'm sure the lesbian community would be proud to claim any of these smart, educated, accomplished women as their own, but it takes a little more than just a lack of a wedding ring and children to make someone a member of their group.

I hope you realize that just made an assumption yourself. smh

But for the record, everyone doesn't think a woman is a lesbian because she dedicates herself to her career and doesn't get married or have children. I am also unmarried, have no interest in children, and I am more focused on a career than getting married. That doesn't equate to lesbianism.

MysticCat 05-12-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927849)
But for the record, everyone doesn't think a woman is a lesbian because she dedicates herself to her career and doesn't get married or have children. I am also unmarried, have no interest in children, and I am more focused on a career than getting married. That doesn't equate to lesbianism.

So what is it that makes it "kind of obvious" to you that Kagan is a lesbian?

deepimpact2 05-12-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1927844)

"So what" is that you think it is "obvious." Get out the house more and you will find a lot of things that challenge your traditional and rather stereotypical way of thinking.

How do you make the leap that because I think the woman is gay that I need to get out of the house? Especially since you know nothing abuot me. My line of thinking is not entirely traditional or stereotypical. On some issues, yes, I am traditional. And?

Psi U MC Vito 05-12-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927835)
I think most people in this country want to have an idea of where a person stands on these issues. I have yet to see otherwise. I don't think that is a good thing.

Well I rather somebody who keep their personal views close to the vest. Somebody preaching their beliefs won't be impartial. Somebody who won't even let you know what those beliefs are can better afford to be impartial without being exclaimed a hypocrite.

deepimpact2 05-12-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1927852)
So what is it that makes it "kind of obvious" to you that Kagan is a lesbian?

It isn't something I can explain to someone like you. You would not "get it."

DrPhil 05-12-2010 11:43 AM

All in all, this goes back to focusing on outcome rather than intent. People want to debate the intent which can often not be proven. It is much wiser to discuss the potential outcomes of this SCOTUS nominee. Outcome is outcome regardless of the intent. Which groups may FEEL their agendas will be addressed and why?

(Another cultural reference) Joy Behar of The View said that she received a "Jewish" award years ago because people thought she was an accomplished Jewish woman. How awesome of her to be primetime and offer a voice to Jewish women all over. They undoubtedly were going based on assumptions, rumors, and stereotypes. She's Italian, though. LOL.

DrPhil 05-12-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927855)
It isn't something I can explain to someone like you. You would not "get it."

FAIL.

deepimpact2 05-12-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1927854)
Well I rather somebody who keep their personal views close to the vest. Somebody preaching their beliefs won't be impartial. Somebody who won't even let you know what those beliefs are can better afford to be impartial without being exclaimed a hypocrite.

There is a difference between preaching views and just being clear about where you stand on an issue. And yes, there are people who can have or even preach their views and still be impartial Some people are just evolved like that.

deepimpact2 05-12-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1927858)
FAIL.

It isn't up for your determination. :)

DrPhil 05-12-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927853)
How do you make the leap that because I think the woman is gay that I need to get out of the house? Especially since you know nothing abuot me. My line of thinking is not entirely traditional or stereotypical. On some issues, yes, I am traditional. And?

I don't give a shit about you. If you think her sexual orientation is obvious, and won't explain why it is obvious to you, you need to get out the house more. The End.

MysticCat 05-12-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927855)
It isn't something I can explain to someone like you. You would not "get it."

That is just pathetically lame. Just go ahead and say you don't have an answer.

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927853)
How do you make the leap that because I think the woman is gay that I need to get out of the house? Especially since you know nothing abuot me.

And what do you know about Kegel that enables you to form opinions about her sexual orientation? Or about me that enables you to form opinions about what I would or wouldn't get?

Psi U MC Vito 05-12-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1927859)
There is a difference between preaching views and just being clear about where you stand on an issue. And yes, there are people who can have or even preach their views and still be impartial Some people are just evolved like that.

Well that's the thing. The only stand that the Justices are supposed to have is what ever the law states. And everybody has their own views, but you are much less likely to ignore them if you are such a zealot you preach them to the street. Honestly if one of the Justices has established known political leanings before being nominated, they shouldn't have been nominated.

Munchkin03 05-12-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1927863)

And what do you know about Kegel that enables you to form opinions about her sexual orientation? Or about me that enables you to form opinions about what I would or wouldn't get?

When I read "Kegel," I thought of something else entirely.

DrPhil 05-12-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1927867)
When I read "Kegel," I thought of something else entirely.

LOL

Is this another piece to the puzzle? :eek:

deepimpact2 05-12-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1927861)
I don't give a shit about you. If you think her sexual orientation is obvious, and won't explain why it is obvious to you, you need to get out the house more. The End.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Seems like YOU need to get out of the house because you seem incapable of having a civilized conversation without allowing it to go down hill on rollerskates.

Newsflash: you are not as evolved or culturally sophisticated as you think. Get over yourself. :)

If I could have a conversatin on here without people acting stupid, I would be more than happy to explain. But becayse you and others always get into juvenile antics, it isn't even worth it. smh


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