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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1607359)

As recent initiates, they don't know what kind of history and relationship this chapter has with their HQ. If it's a small chapter, at a school with weak Greek life, without a lot of prominent alums - i.e. not a big moneymaker - rather than clean house and send volunteers to revitalize it, they're just as likely to pull the charter and be done with it.

This was probably the situation. I commend the OP and her NM class for doing whatever they could to stop the hazing. It's just a real shame that there was not enough support (especially disappointing about the alumnae!) for a non-hazing chapter, and that the right women can't continue the chapter the right way.

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1622064)

This was probably the situation. I commend the OP and her NM class for doing whatever they could to stop the hazing. It's just a real shame that there was not enough support (especially disappointing about the alumnae!) for a non-hazing chapter, and that HQ didn't care enough to remove the bad apples and allow the right women to continue the chapter the right way.

It's also possible there was more to this situation than the OP has revealed, so it seems somewhat innapropriate to chastize the HQ for making for making the decision that they did without knowing the all the facts. I'm not saying all of our HQ's are infallible and incapable of making a wrong decision, I just doubt any of us on GC have enough info to definitively say that the "HQ didn't care enough."

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Originally Posted by LegallyBrunette (Post 1622070)

What I meant by "HQ not caring enough" was referring to 33girl's post. If an identical (for the sake of argument) hazing problem occurred at two different schools, one with a big strong Greek presence, and the other with a small, weak, Greek presence, guess which one HQ will work harder to save?

When a chapter closed at my campus for risk violations (I'm not sure what they were), the new members were allowed to pledge a different sorority the very next semester, not having to wait a whole year. I'm not sure of the official policies, but it's possible that they won't have to wait at least.

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1622064)

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1622078)

I can tell you for a fact that it's the big strong ones that bring in more money. It's sad, but it's true: a sorority is a business and money talks.

To the OP: I'm sorry you had to deal with this, I know what it's like to see you chapter close while you are an active. But, it's better then someone having gotten seriously hurt/died and facing legal action. I hope you can find a good alumnae association and be active in that way. With your questions, if you really don't want to contact HQ, maybe PM a member on here that is alumnae but still active and see if they can help you out? That's what I would do if I didn't want to call HQ.

The pledges of this chapter were not initiated, therefore they can pledge next semester or even sign a bid to another group right now if they are offered one. This is a Panhellenic rule - their pledge was broken by the act of closing the chapter.

bn12: Your situation sucks. You could either allow hazing to go on that really bothered you, or report it, and know that your chapter would probably close (I am guessing it is a chapter/school like I described). If there's an alumnae chapter near your school, you and your pledge sisters can try to get involved, especially if there are younger members in the alum chapter (some NPCs have special alum groups for younger members). As to whether any of the current sisters will be allowed to help in a possible recolonization, that depends on what the climate is 3 (actually it will probably be more like 4 or 5) years down the road.