I distinctly remember singing "Phi, Phi, Phi" during rush my sophomore year.

If she's an advisor, she's ridiculously immature to be whining about any of it on a message board. I think a lot of us who post here and hold volunteer or paid positions within our organizations like to be a little more discrete about the goings ons of any specific chapter.

Based on the OP's level of outrage, though, that advisor could have said just about anything. I could see "our return rates were lower than we expected for upperclassmen" or "we have to rethink how we split invitations between freshmen and upperclassmen" or something like that. At a post-rush forum, talking about why you didn't make upperclassmen quota, it could just be that the advisor was admitting it was her chapter's problem, instead of blaming the new system.

My guess is that she's a collegian - recruitment chair - or a very young advisor. And my guess is that the other advisor was not speaking in 'public' but among the other advisors/recruitment chairs or possibly even in personal conversation with the OP. Seeing that you're not going to meet UC quota would result in that conclusion, and in those meetings a lot of the pretense drops down. Regardless, I 'blame' the OP for repeating it more than the person for saying it. Were she privy to such conversations they're not supposed to be shared.

I don't think the system's likely all that bad. If quota increases next year most chapters should be at total after quota (and although the high UC quota is unusual, it seems like a high number of transfers/UC PNMs warrants it. If without it a few chapters were primarily receiving UC and with it, the spread is more even, well all the better.) Whether an active or an advisor, OP needs to grow up, and her eventual absence from the process - in lieu of her learning better - will solve more problems than not.

Yeah. Wanna meet up somewhere?

At the corner of the "Right Stuff" and "Quit Playing Games with My Heart?"

"Step By Step", somehow, we'll meet up because "I Want It That Way."

Dorks. The twos a ya.

^^^ you're invited, you know. Always.

Dorks. The threes a us.

I always thought in my heart of hearts you would be a BSB or NKOTB fan, DrPhil.

I'm going to try to give this effort "All I have to give."

Idk, agzg...thinking about DrPhil's music knowledge (from past convos), I'm suspecting she's likin' BoyzIIMen but just too shy to say so, publicly. So I'm encouraging you, DrPhil...come on out, it's okay, you're among friends here.

Oh I already know she loves BoyzIIMen. :)

Oh the memories :)

My sister was a huge NKOTB fan so their music is the first I heard growing up (she is 8 years older), and the BSB are the heroes of my teens. NSYNC not so much.

BSB is still the music of choice for tipsy-middle-of-the-night-dance-on-the-bar-karaoke

1. BSB
2. BoyzIIMen
3. NKOTB