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smiley21 05-31-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by PiKA2001
There is debate whether or not 666 is actually the mark of the beast. Some scholars believe that translation errors and shoddy research has turned 666 into what should really be 616. I guess on thursday we'll see if the sky turns red or not.

Actually, according to the Bible, the moon turns red and the sun will be black when the end of the world comes. I am just saying:)

PiKA2001 05-31-2006 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by smiley21
Actually, according to the Bible, the moon turns red and the sun will be black when the end of the world comes. I am just saying:)
Sounds like nothing more than a solar/lunar eclipse. So what happened on 6-6-1006? Anything? I'm a non-believer but I have heard some para-normals say the world is supposed to end in 2012 according to "evidence".

JonInKC 05-31-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You can send Martin a thank you letter care of my boyfriend's parents.

My favorite part of that whole doctrine is the Lutherans who talk about sola scriptura but then cite Luther's works. Those sure aren't in the Bible. ;)

At least today we can own a bible without facing jail or worse.

GeekyPenguin 05-31-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by JonInKC
At least today we can own a bible without facing jail or worse.
Yes and we've been able to for a few hundred years.

:yawn:

Tom Earp 05-31-2006 05:15 PM

Die This Thread!

Damn Religious Fanatics.

I dont need a book to read!

Oh, dont need one in a Motel room either!

smiley21 05-31-2006 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by PiKA2001
Sounds like nothing more than a solar/lunar eclipse. So what happened on 6-6-1006? Anything? I'm a non-believer but I have heard some para-normals say the world is supposed to end in 2012 according to "evidence".

Oh good, I plan to have a get married and have a child before 2012. At least I will be able to do that before the world ends. :)

JonInKC 06-01-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Yes and we've been able to for a few hundred years.

:yawn:

You can thank Martin for that too.

GeekyPenguin 06-01-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by JonInKC
You can thank Martin for that too.
He could have stopped there.

MysticCat 06-01-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
My favorite part of that whole doctrine is the Lutherans who talk about sola scriptura but then cite Luther's works. Those sure aren't in the Bible. ;)
Not inconsistent, necessarily. As originally formulated and understood by the Reformers, it simply meant that Scripture was the only authoritative rule of faith. Specifically, it meant that Tradition and the magisterium of the Church were not authoritive, except to the extent that they taught what Scripture taught, since any authority of Tradition and the megisterium derived from and were dependent on the authority of Scripture.

Nevertheless, given the spin often given the term now, the irony is well noted.

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Originally posted by JonInKC
At least today we can own a bible without facing jail or worse.
Not in all countries.

But when was simply owning a Bible actually a crime -- as opposed to possessing unauthorized translations of the Bible (yes, there were authorized vernacular translations of the Bible prior to Luther and the Reformation) or preaching/teaching what the Church considered heresy (and thereby possibly fomenting political discord)? Unless you're factoring in that prior to the invention of the printing press, Bibles were prohibitively expensive to produce and therefore could only be commissioned by the nobility or by the Church itself -- I guess if a common man or woman had one, there was some reasonable presumption that it was stolen.

I've seen this charge against the Catholic Church and Catholic governments from time to time in evangelical publications, but I haven't found any real evidence to back up the assertion that simply owning a Bible was a crime.


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