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Fortunatley... Im not using those sources. Pointing at other people that may or may not promote some of the ideas in my hypothesis is unfair and illogical deamonization. I suggest that everyone read my last post in its entirity, including the links.
Operation Northwoods (links provided in my last post) was an official U.S. government plan to carry out acts of terrorism to incite a desired state of public opinion. - this could be the motive that would satisfy Dr. Jones' hypothesis. - and its just that... its a hypothesis, to be tested against others... I am open to other ideas - (and I am aware they exist), but I am very concerned, especially given the obvious problems outlined in Dr. Jones' paper and others, including the potential motive that exists. FEMA owes the American public a better investigation. |
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he should read structural engineering publications. hell, some of my own professors did the actual investigation the following weeks after 9/11. i'll believe them over some random ass astro-physicist who doesn't know the difference from a composite column, and steel joist from his own ass. |
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indeed. |
And an Egg fell off of the wall, and all of the Kings Men could not put Poor Humpty back together again!
I am sure if you ask any Arch. Engineers about this, You may get as many thpoughts and results. So, where in the heck are We on this discussion? |
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I don't mean to be so insulting, but this Dr. Jones, well his paper would have about as much chance of making it through a peer-review up here as a someone hitting the non-alcoholic beer on St. Patty's day - sure it could happen... but the chances of that happening... |
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if this is the best that BYU has to offer.... |
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steel evaporating? LOL. when pigs fly. |
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If a object such as a Plane strikes an object such at the Towers, doesnt this deplete the structual capacity and Integreity of the Steel that built it?
Then thrown in the Heat from Fire lessen it more? Basic Chemistery will tell You that! |
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those buildings might have swayed a a few inches or even a foot or so at most upon impact. |
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Was the sway factor in the original perameters(?) With a force such as a Plane striking? Any time there is a massive blow to a structure is there not a shock value to the metal that is transmitted for a way through the structure? Metal is a conduit isnt it? Add Heat to the formula and does this compound the situation? For what ever reason, both Towers came down. |
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engineers always design for lateral loads, whether it be wind or earthquakes. so side movement is always taken into account. |
BYU suspends Jones
Dr. Steven Jones, the physics professor involved in the so-called "9-11 Truth Movement" has been suspended by BYU.
Two weeks ago he published his theory in a paper called "Why Indeed did the World Trade Center Buildings Collapse?" In it, the professor says the towers fell not because of planes hitting them but rather pre-positioned demolition charges. The other side: the State Department has released a rebuttal to Jones' theory in a 10-thousand page report. BYU's statement: "Physics Professor Steven Jones has made numerous statements about the collapse of the World Trade Center. BYU has repeatedly said that it does not endorse assertions made by individual faculty. "We are, however, concerned about the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones." The university added, "BYU remains concerned that Dr. Jones' works on this topic has not been published in appropriate scientific venues." |
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Not sure what this guy saw or looked at but as a NY'er, sure looked rather major to my eyes......have to go look for a link I saw the other day on this stuff-explains it rather well.... |
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Perhaps he didn't see any reason why it failed because they didn't design the building to withstand a couple of huge jet airliners crashing into it with an ass-load of jet fuel in them. I mean Jesus Christ, every structural engineer I have seen or witnessed talking about it has agreed to this point.......and frankly, I am sure as hell going to listen to extremely well respected engineers over your wack job dumbass "Dr" of physics. |
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Dr. Jones = Indiana = Harrison Ford = http://www.paulvisco.org/tempreal/us...na%20Jones.jpg |
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Here, for the people who care to read, learn and understand, some links I found in a down and dirty search:
http://www.civil.usyd.edu.au/wtc.shtml http://wtc.nist.gov/ http://www.iti.northwestern.edu/research/wtc/index.html http://architecture.about.com/librar.../aa091201a.htm http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/r..._april0505.htm http://www.911-strike.com/BazantZhou.htm http://www-math.mit.edu/~bazant/WTC/ http://greenyes.grrn.org/2001/09/msg00129.html |
Man, I am amazed BYU let him continue on their faculty for so long. That school has certainly not hesitated to dropkick faculty promptly for far less inflammatory public statements.
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http://news.uns.purdue.edu/html4ever...Sozen.WTC.html
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/ i think i'll believe this guy over everyone else. Dr. Sozen is one of the most influential structural engineers of the 20th century, and i am humbled by the fact that i was able to learn from him. |
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