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CardinalSM 02-02-2004 02:12 PM

Yeah, in Georgia, for most counties, there is also a city that shares the same name. Hardly ever will you find the city in the county with the same name! I have been here for a year and a half and still can't figure out where I am going!

honeychile 02-02-2004 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
Hmm -- I'm pretty sure that two of the original founders of ADPi and Phi Mu roomed together, and it was following the refusal of an invitation to the Phi Mu to join that jumpstarted the Philomathian society....
I had heard that our primary founders roomed together, too, but I never heard that the Phi Mu primary founder wasn't issued an invitation to the Adelphean Society!

I wonder if we'll ever know the whole story! :)

honeychile 02-02-2004 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by dzrose93
Honeychile -- I loved reading your story. :) Just wanted to point out that Macon County and the city of Macon, Georgia, are two different places. (The city of Macon is in Bibb County, and Macon County is a bit further south, past Crawford, Peach and Houston counties.)
Then, I have to assume that the photos we took at the "Now entering Macon Cty" meant city, not county. How odd!!

Glad you liked the story - I've dined out on that for a while now!

carnation 02-02-2004 10:48 PM

I'd love for all you Macon Magnolias to stop HERE on the way to Macon! And you could visit Fuzicrayon and the new Nu chapter of Phi Mu!

rainbowbrightCS 02-02-2004 10:55 PM

GA is strange, they have no imagination when it comes to names. I live in the city that has almost the same name as the county right off of the same name for the street.

But my county does have a city with the exact same name, but on the other side of the state.

Plus West Ga U. is in Carrol county Carrolton city.


Crazy Georgians.


ETA: Isn't Phi Mu moving their HQ to Peach Tree City? I remeber hearing about that in Local news.

sageofages 02-02-2004 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS
GA is strange, they have no imagination when it comes to names. I live in the city that has almost the same name as the county right off of the same name for the street.

But my county does have a city with the exact same name, but on the other side of the state.

Plus West Ga U. is in Carrol county Carrolton city.


Crazy Georgians.


ETA: Isn't Phi Mu moving their HQ to Peach Tree City? I remeber hearing about that in Local news.

YES WE ARE!!! And it is going to be the most beautiful building.....

http://www.phimu.org/foundation/newhq.asp

Everyone check it out!

rainbowbrightCS 02-02-2004 11:07 PM

Do you know when it will be up and running?

sageofages 02-02-2004 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by rainbowbrightCS
Do you know when it will be up and running?
Ground breaking was in May 2003. I am not sure the move in date, but I am betting it is late 2004 or early 2005.

It is so beautiful and definitely something for Phi Mu's to be very excited about building!

texas*princess 02-02-2004 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by sageofages
YES WE ARE!!! And it is going to be the most beautiful building.....

http://www.phimu.org/foundation/newhq.asp

Everyone check it out!

WOW!!! That is just gorgeous!!!

polarpi 02-02-2004 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by sageofages
It is so beautiful and definitely something for Phi Mu's to be very excited about building!
The architect's drawings look wonderful! I'm so happy for you all to have such a wonderful headquarters, and to get the two Macon Magnolia organizations' headquarters within about a 2 hours drive of one another! :)

dzrose93 02-03-2004 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Then, I have to assume that the photos we took at the "Now entering Macon Cty" meant city, not county. How odd!!

Glad you liked the story - I've dined out on that for a while now!

That sign sounds really crazy! LOL Could you download the picture and PM it to me? I'd love to see it. :D

dzrose93 02-03-2004 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by CardinalSM
Yeah, in Georgia, for most counties, there is also a city that shares the same name. Hardly ever will you find the city in the county with the same name! I have been here for a year and a half and still can't figure out where I am going!
I don't know if this still holds true, but Georgia used to have more counties than any other state. I suppose they ran out of names eventually and had to steal city names from the county ones (or vice versa). :D

The funniest county names to me are Coffee and Bacon. They sit side by side. :)

pinkyphimu 02-03-2004 08:51 PM

right out of our latest history book (pg.9):

"The story is told that Mary Ann [Dupont Lines] roomed with Eugenia Tucker (Fitzgerald), a young lady who was president of the Adelphean Society. The two roommates, it is said, were at once close companions and active rivals. They championed their own societies in attaining the highest honors and the best girls for membership, at the same time preserving a friendship that transcended the naturally cometitive nature of the societies. Although confirmation of the story is difficult, it is quite possible, for Mary Ann entered Wesleyan in October and Eugenia was in school that year preceding her graduation in 1852. If it is indeed true, then this rooming arrangement may have had a definate influence in promoting the formation of a second literary society at Wesleyan."

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2004 08:57 PM

a fellow Phi Mu to the rescue, I knew I'd heard it somewhere from a reputable source!

Thanks Pinky!

Makes sense to me though. Some of my BEST friendships are with girls I'm also in "competition" with... they inspire me to think more, do more, be more.... makes sense that a true friendship like that would beget two great secret societies!

honeychile 02-03-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by pinkyphimu
right out of our latest history book (pg.9):

"The story is told that Mary Ann [Dupont Lines] roomed with Eugenia Tucker (Fitzgerald), a young lady who was president of the Adelphean Society. The two roommates, it is said, were at once close companions and active rivals. They championed their own societies in attaining the highest honors and the best girls for membership, at the same time preserving a friendship that transcended the naturally cometitive nature of the societies. Although confirmation of the story is difficult, it is quite possible, for Mary Ann entered Wesleyan in October and Eugenia was in school that year preceding her graduation in 1852. If it is indeed true, then this rooming arrangement may have had a definate influence in promoting the formation of a second literary society at Wesleyan."

I feel better now! Since the Adelphean Society was formed in May of 1851, Mary Ann Dupont (Lines) would not have been Eugenia Tucker Fitzgerald's roomie at the time! I also seem to remember that membership in the Adelphean Society was limited to 10 women per year (or something like that), so there just may not have been room at the time.

Sounds like this ancient quota system was good news for both the Adelphean AND the Philomathean Societies! :)

honeychile 02-03-2004 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by dzrose93
That sign sounds really crazy! LOL Could you download the picture and PM it to me? I'd love to see it. :D
I'll have to ask Cheryl. :)

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2004 09:32 PM

VERY good news!

HollisterDXiChi 02-04-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by White_Chocolate
A lot of sororities started up because of different reasons. I know that my sorority was founded because one founder went through rush and didn't get into anything because she wasn't of the same religious persuasion as the rest of the girls. So, she decided to start her own.
AND THIS IS WHY MY SORORITY ROCKS!!!
We are the only NPC sorority that is not based on scripture ritual. The foundation of our sorority and it's members screams that DIVERSITY IS WELCOMED.

What sorority are you a part of?

HollisterDXiChi 02-04-2004 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by dzrose93
I don't know if this still holds true, but Georgia used to have more counties than any other state. I suppose they ran out of names eventually and had to steal city names from the county ones (or vice versa). :D

The funniest county names to me are Coffee and Bacon. They sit side by side. :)

Yeah it did have a lot of counties but had to be combined due to tax puposes way back when-someting about ratios. Learned it in a manditory GA History and American Politics class...

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-04-2004 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by HollisterDXiChi
What sorority are you a part of?

She's a Phi Sigma Sigma.

HollisterDXiChi 02-04-2004 12:29 PM

Thanks :)

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-04-2004 04:50 PM

from the FSS website


On November 26, 1913, Phi Sigma Sigma was born, unobtrusively, without the thought of expansion. It was the first nonsectarian sorority; the only one that was open to diverse membership from inception and the only one with a ritual that was not based in scripture. Under the leadership of Fay Chertkoff (our first chapter archon), Alpha Chapter was installed at Hunter College.

....The early 1900's were turbulent times. Racial vindictiveness emerged as a result of earlier waves of emigration, and divisions developed along religious, ethnic, and economic lines. The city of New York was seen as a cauldron for social change. [The founders] wanted to start a sorority that would promote open membership to all women of character regardless of background; a sorority committed to sisterhood, excellence in scholarship, and selfless giving.




hotness.

Adelphean1851 03-07-2004 05:01 AM

adpi and unicorns??
 
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1911-17 The convention produced committees on developing the whistle, symbols, and insignia and adopted a regulation flag. The unicorn was adopted as a symbol and mascot of Alpha Delta Phi. I am ONLY asssuming after the name was changed to Alpha Delta Pi

I have never heard of a unicorn being assocated w/ alpha delta pi that is so strange, does anyone know the reason we changed to the lion? or what the unicorn was supposed to symbolize? I know lions and unicorns are both used alot in hearldry.
also when did the phi mus adopt the lion? did ya'll have it from the get go or did you adopt it later too?

CougADPi 05-29-2004 01:06 PM

I know I am really late on this, but here is my two cents: I am alum of Upsilon Chapter. On the crest on our charter there is a dragon, not a unicorn or a lion (it also says Alpha Delta Phi :)). We were told that each other original 20 chapters or so each had a different mascot on their crest. This was before the organization had an official mascot and they were "trying out" their various options. We were always very proud of our charter because we do not know of any other ADPI chapters that have a dragon! :)

PennyCarter 07-29-2004 03:51 PM

I know that no one has posted on this thread in a while, but I just read it today and its wonderful! I saw another Macon ADPi on here, but to reiterate her, it is great being an ADPi or Phi Mu in Macon. The chapters are often very competitive, but very friendly too. And Peaches and Pi is wonderful! I would post a pic, but I don't know where to begin. My favorite tradition is jumping into the ADPi fountain after its over. Its always on a warm Sunday afternoon and we usually wear sun dresses and just pull 'm up and walk around in the fountain!!

And I can't say enough great things about the Cannon Ball house. Some of our sisters usually work there giving tours. And the Philamathean and Adelphean rooms are set up exactly like the original rooms where our founders met (they even have the original furniture). I was preffed in the Cannon Ball house!!!

The post office is great too. I've never heard Phi Mu's talking about it, but I'm sure its just as special to them.

Is it true that Phi Mu's always use the lady bug if ADPi was on the campus first? Just curious because that is how it is at Mercer, but maybe that's not really why. And what do ADPi's use if Phi Mu was there first? I've never heard of anything except a lion for us (well except in the early days of Unicorns)

honeychile 07-29-2004 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by PennyCarter
And I can't say enough great things about the Cannon Ball house. Some of our sisters usually work there giving tours. And the Philamathean and Adelphean rooms are set up exactly like the original rooms where our founders met (they even have the original furniture). I was preffed in the Cannon Ball house!!!
Oh, my gosh!! That must have been the most awesome of Pref Parties I've EVER heard of!!!

I'm just pea green !!!!

AlphaSigOU 07-29-2004 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by dzrose93
I don't know if this still holds true, but Georgia used to have more counties than any other state. I suppose they ran out of names eventually and had to steal city names from the county ones (or vice versa). :D

The funniest county names to me are Coffee and Bacon. They sit side by side. :)

Texas still has Georgia beat... 254 counties to 159 for Georgia.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 07-30-2004 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PennyCarter
Is it true that Phi Mu's always use the lady bug if ADPi was on the campus first? Just curious because that is how it is at Mercer, but maybe that's not really why. And what do ADPi's use if Phi Mu was there first? I've never heard of anything except a lion for us (well except in the early days of Unicorns)

Phi Mu sometimes uses the ladybug because it relates to our efforts to be "Phi Mu ladies."

The ladybug is NOT our official mascot. The lion is.

ASA uses the ladybug
ADP uses the lion, too.

So Phi Mu usually just uses the symbol NOT used. i.e. at my campus, ASA was present, so we used the lion.

GammaPhiBabe 07-30-2004 08:46 AM

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Is it true that Phi Mu's always use the lady bug if ADPi was on the campus first? Just curious because that is how it is at Mercer, but maybe that's not really why. And what do ADPi's use if Phi Mu was there first?
As far as I know, on our campus both ADPi and Phi Mu use the lion as their mascot.

ASUADPi 07-30-2004 09:39 AM

Yes both Phi Mu and ADPi use Lions as their mascot. Alphie and Sir Fidel. I've decided that since our founders were friends with each other that our mascots are "friends" also ;).

ADPi Conniebama 02-19-2005 09:25 PM

bump
 
1911 . . . . The unicorn was adopted as a symbol replacing the dragon which had been on the original Coat-of-Arms.

that was when we still considered ourselves to be alpha delta phi.

1915 At the Convention, the coat of arms is modified. The unicorn is changed to a lion rampart with a background of violets and the English version of the open motto – “We live for each other.”

And, all of this can be found at http://www.alphadeltapi.org/

I also found this interesting

1883 “Who could fail to recall with pride the excitement of the rush we had by the two sororities before we could decide which we would join…the first idea was to impress the young thing with the great honor shown her…Every afternoon large delegations went to the home of the little girl to talk matters over and to urge an immediate decision. Once I recall the Adelpheans waited for me outside the school and escorted me to my home, hoping to stage as grand appeal to my mother, who was supposed to influence a sterner parent, and when we arrived, the place was already overflowing with Philomatheans.” (Loyally, Volume I)

Gotta love those phi mu's (greek love to yall) even 150 years later.

KDwxgrrl 02-20-2005 12:53 PM

This thread is amazing.

I know Longwood College (formerly State Female Normal School) is home to the most sorority foundings - 4. The first of which was my sorority, Kappa Delta (1897), followed by Zeta Tau Alpha (1898), Tri-Sigma (1898), and Alpha Sigma Alpha (1901). There has GOT to be a story behind that one... does anybody know it?

ms_gwyn 02-20-2005 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by KDwxgrrl
This thread is amazing.

I know Longwood College (formerly State Female Normal School) is home to the most sorority foundings - 4. The first of which was my sorority, Kappa Delta (1897), followed by Zeta Tau Alpha (1898), Tri-Sigma (1898), and Alpha Sigma Alpha (1901). There has GOT to be a story behind that one... does anybody know it?

I'm kinda of a greek historic freak so I do know that KD, Tri Sigma and KD were all formed around the same time, KD was announced first, then Tri Sigma then later that year Zeta, was around as the "???" but didn't have a "formal" name until later that year (1898).

I also believe there is a story behind it, as least with the first 3, but it is unlikely we will hear it because of "PC"ness, even in those days. :)

honeychile 02-20-2005 10:41 PM

Re: bump
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
1911 . . . . The unicorn was adopted as a symbol replacing the dragon which had been on the original Coat-of-Arms.

that was when we still considered ourselves to be alpha delta phi.

<snip>

Gotta love those phi mu's (greek love to yall) even 150 years later.

Aren't you glad we don't have that dragon anymore? Can you imagine all the "Puff the Magic Dragon" jokes?!

ADPi Conniebama 02-21-2005 07:42 PM

I for one do think it is interesting if the various sororities that have similar backgrounds form a sort of bond that only they can understand.

I do feel differently about phi mu's then I do about other sororities, because they were the second secret society formed for women and because they started at same college we did. I have always found it easier to understand them. Some of my best friends from college were phi mu and the girl that set up me and my husband was a phi mu. I don't know if, as a whole, phi mu feels the same about adpi but the macon magnolias thing is great.

33girl 02-21-2005 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
I'm kinda of a greek historic freak so I do know that KD, Tri Sigma and KD were all formed around the same time, KD was announced first, then Tri Sigma then later that year Zeta, was around as the "???" but didn't have a "formal" name until later that year (1898).

I also believe there is a story behind it, as least with the first 3, but it is unlikely we will hear it because of "PC"ness, even in those days. :)

ASA was formed simply because the 5 founders were all friends and wanted to be in a sorority together (they all had received bids to the existing 3 sororities). It had nothing to do with race or religion which I'm guessing is the "PC" ness you are referring to.

From what I gather, Farmville's population at the time was fairly homogenous, so I don't think it's a "they wouldn't let me in because I was Jewish" angle. If you want to find that info, all you need to do is look in the old (1920's - 1930's) editions of Baird's.

ms_gwyn 02-21-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
From what I gather, Farmville's population at the time was fairly homogenous, so I don't think it's a "they wouldn't let me in because I was Jewish" angle. If you want to find that info, all you need to do is look in the old (1920's - 1930's) editions of Baird's.
Oh nothing of the sort, in regards to race or religion....what I meant by "PC"ness of the situation is that they were all (mostly likely) "fighting" for the same girls and that they all knew each other, so I am assuming some not so nice things occurred, not attempting to be evil or spreading gossip, just general cattiness that we women can display at times. :)

I have read a few histories and one was brutally honest about some infighting going in w/in the organization that lead to an almost merger between two (now very popular NPCs) young orgs and then later a chapter having its charter revoked b/c of the drama they caused.

That is really all that I'm referring to.

33girl 02-21-2005 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn
Oh nothing of the sort, in regards to race or religion....what I meant by "PC"ness of the situation is that they were all (mostly likely) "fighting" for the same girls and that they all knew each other, so I am assuming some not so nice things occurred, not attempting to be evil or spreading gossip, just general cattiness that we women can display at times. :)

I have read a few histories and one was brutally honest about some infighting going in w/in the organization that lead to an almost merger between two (now very popular NPCs) young orgs and then later a chapter having its charter revoked b/c of the drama they caused.

That is really all that I'm referring to.

OK, that makes more sense. I know this sounds tres shallow but I think that would be a more interesting story in an E Channel way than women not being allowed to join due to religion. ;)

tekmousechica 02-25-2005 02:10 PM

Syracuse Triad
 
The connection between Alpha Pi, Gamma Phi Beta, and Alpha Gamma Delta is that they were all founded at Syracuse University in Syracuse New York. Alpha Pi in 1872, Gamma Phi Beta in 1874, and Alpha Gamma Delta in 1904. One fun fact is that our badges have similar designs (all are monograms of our letters).

sigmaK619 06-19-2005 02:07 PM

SK & SSS
 
Anyone besides us SKs notice the similarity between Sigma K and Sigma Sigma Sigma. Our national magazine is the Sigma Kappa Triangle, SSS is the Triangle of Sigma Sigma Sigma. We both have the violet and our pins are very, very similar. Any Tri-Sigs have any thoughts?


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