Always? I believe I gave a rare example.

If you would like to return your college education, go ahead though.

-Rudey

Rudey--

Which MBA programs can I be snotty about in terms of moneymaking potential? I've been receiving a gentleman caller who's at a top school. I've got to find someone who's Master's degree is more lucrative than mine.

(they may call me a gold digger, 'cause they see i ain't tryin' to hit up a broke -------)

Thunderbird.edu

-Rudey

HOTTT.

Makes HBS look like Jarvis Christian College.

Until you define 'intelligence' in a manner that provides for quantification (i.e. "He is more intelligent than she") this is all conjecture - except yours is somewhat circular, and really relies on some assumptions I can't agree with. You also run right into the 'exceptions' fallacy I mentioned, but hey. To pick:

Does this relate to anything other than money? Because my point was unrelated to money (although by extension you would expect certain outcomes...) - I'm merely positing that it's almost impossible for there not to be correlation between "higher intelligence" and "went to college" for a variety of reasons, including the sheer number of people that went to college to the way that we view 'intelligence' as a measuring stick.

Part of my contention, however, does state that we base our ratings of intelligence on certain skills or etc - so your points may apply there, although against the hypothesis you're expressing.

"Kind of intelligence" hm? Now, unless you can break intelligences down into discrete items with a certain valuation, then this is speculative at best. At worst, you're essentially ceding to my point, since 'the types of intelligence society values' can probably be shortened to 'intelligence' (since without a quantifiable definition, perception may as well equal reality here, no?).

'Pure' intelligence seems out of place, as well - what is 'intelligence' being mixed with to create impurities, whether these be real or perceived?

So intelligence is related to success, no?

Can't income be seen as a tangible measurement of one type of success?

Can't graduation from college be seen as another?

Additionally . . . If we're deciding on a definition of 'intelligence', shouldn't it include the increased ability to learn, process, or integrate knowledge for positive benefit . . . and as such, the 'learned behaviors' you're dismissing would certainly fall within the affinities that should be symptomatic of 'intelligence' (although not a necessary condition, I think you can make a case for sufficient), right?

So what you're saying is that those of moderate intelligence will be able to adapt to 'playing the game', but those of above-average intelligence will learn to 'play the game' better (even if it's by playing different)?

AKA they'll be more successful?

i dont think it would be a hurtful thing to ask him where he wants his career to go. i'd ask him what his future interests are. maybe he does have aspirations, he just hasnt had an opportunity to talk about them with you because the subject hasn't come up. never hurts to try.

bump because somehow I'm in this situation and I'm too old for this!

Education level doesn't matter at all. Intelligence does. And you really don't have to be intelligent these days to get a degree...not that that is anything new...for a very long time there have been college students who skated by on either their athletic ability or their family's money.

And better to live with a happy bartender than with a lawyer who hates his job or a doctor who's never at home. This is just such a nonissue to me, but that's probably because I come from a background where people didn't turn up their noses if you had a job where you actually got your hands dirty.

If YOU have a problem with saying "my boyfriend/husband is a bartender" then do him a favor and break up with him, because you'll never be happy and you'll make him miserable as well.

I have no problem saying that I did the college thing and my husband grew up in Mexico with 11 brothers and sisters, and got sent out at age 13 to get a full time job to help support the family. My husband is fairly intelligent, but certainly naive about certain things. (He's convinced that if you eat watermelon and drink beer at the same time you will die.) He never had the chance to study biology or chemistry or anything but basic history. Eventually, he wants to go back and take those classes that he missed out on earlier in life. And I'd definitely rather be with someone like that, then someone who dropped out of there own free will and is content to be a goober the rest of their life.

I would have a HARD time dating someone without at least a bachelors degree. The only exception I would make would be if they had goals. Not only goals, but a plan for achieving those goals. By a plan, I mean one with objectives and timelines (to which they were already progressing on).

My roomate's boyfriend never even graduated from high school. He is crazy. He is basically going to live off of her for the rest of his life. No goals, no ambitions. All he does is play playstation for eight hours a day. He had a job but lost it because he drank too much.

Oh, and for everyone who is 30 or under answering this question, I just want to say, get back to me in a few years.

Things that seem terribly important at 22 often are things that don't make a bit of difference 10 years later.

Yeah, I'm sure. Education is definately important.

33girl, how long have you been married?

you are talking to a different 33girl right?

to quote...
 

a well worn blue collar comedian...

You can't fix stupid........

Re: to quote...
 

Last I checked "stupid" and "uneducated" were not synonyms.