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As stated earlier I can understand the OP being a little upset.
I have to say I was watching Glee with my D who will be going thru recruitment next fall. When it was looked at me and said is true, do people really say that about them. I told her that all sororities have nicknames and not to take stock in it. (I have been specifically been just talking about Greek Life in general the last couple of years so she will keep an open mind during the process) |
You know, at first when I read the OP's post, I understood the annoyance, but figured this:
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But, the more I read through these comments, the more I thought that we, as a Greek community, SHOULD fight back against negative stereotypes when we see them in popular media. How can we expect people to stop perpetuating these stereotypes if we don't make it known that they're unacceptable? This doesn't mean that we have to become rabid extremists about it - nobody likes "that guy". But an organized, ongoing, respectful reproach of this kind of rhetoric might do us all a lot of good. Our organizations spend so much time, energy, and resources to be so much, much more than the one-dimensional characterizations we get in the media. This also leads me to a general complaint about the way women are portrayed, both in the media, and by society - slutty stereotypes are perpetuated for ANY group of women or girls. Glee has used the "slutty cheerleader" trope since the beginning of the series. Friday Night Lights used to do the same thing about the rally girls. Any mention of an all-girls school gets pretty much the same reaction. And these are MINORS we're talking about. The flip side is when women are "prudes" with no sense of humor or any other redeeming qualities.There's this razor thin line between slut and prude that women are supposed to balance on, and any deviation from it is socially unacceptable. I think that this has just as much to do with that "EZ DZ" comment as general Greek stereotypes. |
I spent too much time crafting my earlier response (and eating dinner/leftover chocolate), and missed these responses, which I soooo agree with:
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I will say that my comments are not targeted at DZ. We as a group do enough to continue these stereotypes and bad comments. As much as we all proclaim our interest in networking, sisterhood/brotherhood, philanthropy and academics, we continually have very highly publicized incidents of hazing, underage alcohol abuse, and other bad behavior that continues to color the public's views of our organizations. A character on a show using an ugly nickname for a group that was made up by other Greeks, by the way, is the least of our problems. Focusing on improving our reputations by cutting out the bad behavior that legitimately gives us those reputations despite all the good work we do is more important. Insisting that they "respect us" will just result in a round of "elitist", "buying friends" etc comments.
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I don't think the writers set out to "intentionally" target DZ as I think people believe they did. I think that 1. they were looking at the source of who was making the comment (Puck, which hello, enough said there) and 2. what rhymes with "easy". Heck, which I watched the episode I didn't even catch the "letters" he said.
But I also wouldn't be offended either, because 1. it's a T.V. and 2. the character is a male whore. First off as a TV show why anyone is taking it seriously I don't understand, but for those who are taking it seriously (I would want to ask why?), look at who said the line! If it was like a news report, 20/20, Dateline NBC, The Today Show, Good Morning America that made the comment, well yeah I could understand being offended because those are news shows that report facts. Glee is a T.V. that is fake. So I don't get why some are offended. And if anyone asks "how would you feel if the comment was about ADPi". I still wouldn't be offended, because I don't take T.V. shows seriously. I would have thought it was funny. |
The reason I would take something like this seriously is because, like it or not, casual tv influences our culture. After all it was "Animal House" that started the whole ordeal. People pick up what they see on tv and in the theaters. If its on a popular tv show, people will be more open to what they have to say.
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Um, I have a huge problem with this and I'm not even a DZ. I think a lot of people who are giving "political" answers would be up in arms if it was their org. I don't think Glee should have done this.
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The point he makes is true regardless of whether it started with Animal House or not.
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How many non-Greeks do y'all think even caught the reference?
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Secondly, Animal House didn't "start" anything. And that was an entire movie about Greeks.. This was just one little line on a tv show that most people probably didn't pick up on. You're comparing apples and oranges. Besides, Animal House was funny. |
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I apologize I'm not up-to-date on the war about negative Greek images, I was simply trying to illustrate a point that what is in popular media, be it TV shows, Movies, etc., does have an impact on the way people think. It was less about what exact shows did what.
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