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DrPhil 12-11-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2111465)
No.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat
'Cause that's how this cookie crumbles.

LOL.

It crumbles because it is HARD.

MysticCat 12-11-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2111468)
It crumbles because it is HARD.

LOL at thinking SOFT don't crumble.

amIblue? 12-11-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2111469)
LOL at thinking SOFT don't crumble.

SOFT only crumbles when it's been sitting around for too long and has gotten HARD.

DrPhil 12-11-2011 10:15 PM

And SOFT stays SOFT longer if you put it in a ziploc bag with a slice of a loaf of bread in it.

christiangirl 12-11-2011 10:22 PM

*Now looking for cookies in the kitchen*

IrishLake 12-11-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2111449)
Shortbread is neither hard nor soft. If it is perfect, it exists in a state of tension between the two - bottom is firmer, but top is buttery soft. It should literally melt in your mouth.

Now I need cookies and the house is currently cookie-free. :(

Fuck me, I would kill for a Panera shortbread cookie right now.


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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 2111451)
Exactly! And that state of tension between the two is what I'm calling crisp. They're hard enough that there's a snap when you break them, but soft enough that there's no crunch when you chew them. If you have a better word than "crisp," I'm open to suggestions.

To me, crisp = crunch. There is no "crunch" in what Belle described. When talking about a good shortbread cookie, I would call it firm, or perhaps dense. But crisp or hard.... no. They might be cohesive enough so that there is that snap when you break it in half, but the texture is not crispy nor crunchy.

MysticCat 12-11-2011 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2111494)
Fuck me, I would kill for a Panera shortbread cookie right now.

To me, crisp = crunch. There is no "crunch" in what Belle described. When talking about a good shortbread cookie, I would call it firm, or perhaps dense. But crisp or hard.... no. They might be cohesive enough so that there is that snap when you break it in half, but the texture is not crispy nor crunchy.

I'll grant that crisp may not be the best word for cookies that aren't hard or soft. As I said earlier, I'm open to alternatives. Like you said with shortbread, it's not hard, but it's not soft either or it wouldn't snap.

I can think of lots of crisp things that aren't crunchy though.

But store-bought shortbread? Pale imitations.

IrishLake 12-11-2011 11:56 PM

I don't think I've ever had a shortbread as good as Panera Breads, and I've eaten a lot of cookies.

Pregnant lady is willing to be the judge in a cookie tasting contest. PM me if you'd like to mail me your submissions.

IrishLake 12-12-2011 12:03 AM

FYI, when I'm classifying soil in the field, and clay has a "snap" when it breaks apart, we call it "stiff."

knight_shadow 12-12-2011 12:06 AM

^^ I began to quote you, but...

christiangirl 12-12-2011 12:29 AM

I found some semi-soft chocolate chip cookies. Not my preference but they did me well in a pinch.

aephi alum 12-12-2011 12:42 AM

Soft and warm, straight out of the oven. *purr*

ASTalumna06 12-12-2011 01:17 AM

Ok, I did think of one kind of cookie that should ALWAYS be soft.. Snicker Doodles! And you can really only find soft ones if they're home-made.

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 2111444)
Cold and Hard makes me think of dead people and I would rather not associate such things with my deliciousness.

So I'm guessing you don't use ice a whole lot..

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2111445)
I like room temperature hard Oreos. I guess the only time Oreos should be soft and warm is when they have been in the oven or are fried at the state fair.

Or in TGIFriday's newest dessert! I can't remember what it's called exactly.. But there are big oreos, filled with ice cream, and topped with whipped cream and chocolate and caramel sauces. Mmm...

MysticCat 12-12-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2111500)
I don't think I've ever had a shortbread as good as Panera Breads, and I've eaten a lot of cookies.

Pregnant lady is willing to be the judge in a cookie tasting contest. PM me if you'd like to mail me your submissions.

I'm not sure I knew you're pregnant. Congrats!!

As for Panera, pay me little attention on that one. I have semi-irrational issues with Panera. And I also have a pet peeve (again, perhaps semi-irrational) about the current trend in many chain bakeries (Panera and Whole Foods come to mind) of making things like cookies and scones so big that I think they lose their character.

On top of that, I guess I'm a bit of a (semi-irrational) snob when it comes to shortbread -- I've been baking shortbread for over 30 years. I don't think I've ever had a store-bought shortbread, even one I liked, that I thought could compare to homemade, unless the store in question was a good, local bakery that made them fresh. Good shortbread is made with nothing but butter (real butter), flour and sugar, with maybe a touch of flavoring such as vanilla or almond extract or citrus zest. For that reason, I don't think one can get the right delicate consistency for shortbread from a pre-made dough that places like Panera pretty much have to use.

But hey -- pregnant lady gets to eat and enjoy whatever makes her happy!! :D

SWTXBelle 12-12-2011 10:43 AM

A student just brought me the most delicious homemade shortbread.

I am so glad I don't live in Alabama. (http://www.aolnews.com/story/alabama...ts-to/2057161/)

I am eating it all now . . .


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