This was exactly my point...that brand took multiple applications which he may not have expected or erroneously thought he could handle. Agreeing to it at the beginning is irrelevant. If he withdrew his consent, it becomes assault.

I'm not assuming anything about your background. Just using what you typed... Ha...that's funny.

How many guys do you know that act macho and pretend they can handle more than they can?

I give you permission :)

Some of my brothers have asked me to get a brand. I said no.

8 years later, I'm still brand-free.

If he REALLY didn't want one, he didn't have to get one.

I agree, I'm not arguing that he wasn't a complete moron to say yes at the onset, but as a feminist who believes that no means no, I really do believe that once you say no, the activity MUST stop. This happens in medicine all the time. I'm doing a procedure and the patient wants me to stop. I have to stop, otherwise, I actually can be charged with assault, as well. We all make mistakes, but if you are doing something to someone, and they want you to quit, it is in your best interest and theirs to stop immediately.

I won't argue with you that no means no.

I've seen a lot of people get branded, though, and I've never heard someone say stop while getting one. And until I hear otherwise, I still can't wrap my head around that fact that these guys would do this to a member of the Carter family without his consent.

I'm sure more information is going to come up soon. I'm interested in seeing where this goes.

Since when can they show butt cheeks on the news?

Apparently, it's less of a cheek if they blur the ass crack *shrugs*

The bolded does not automatically an assault make.

Okay, so k_s and I are classist and making judgments of the wealthy and privileged because we are..........

No, you aren't using what I typed within its full context. You just picked up the "wealthy families" part.

Branding for men and women is often about pretending you can handle more than you can. So, does that make this Carter guy an idiot who is learning a lesson or a victim of assault? That's what the investigation is for.

I'm going for a reach on this one. I agree with Dr. Phil, he's trying to save face in lieu of his helicopter family.

This is as interesting of an appeal as your mention of rape earlier.

I'm also a feminist who thinks that no means no.

That doesn't mean that "no means no" applies to everything and that victimization is so easily assumed. That's why there are investigations.

ETA: Ch2tf, I'm just going based on the pieces of puzzle that were in the story. Is it a mere coincidence that a fraternity member from an influential family travels with friends, gets drunk, is assaulted, and comes back with a jacked up brand on his ass? Surely his fraternity brothers aren't dumb enough to consciously assault someone from an influential family. Sure, the alcohol could've taken all brain cells away for everyone involved. It's just way too stupid and convenient.

I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the way your brand turned out.

YESSSSS

This isn't my first time at the rodeo boys!

Am I the only one who thinks this story is funny! Good grief talk about your buyers remorse.

After an edit.

Darn. My fraternity.

I have never heard of a Kappa Sig brand. Guess if you are stupid enough anything can be branded. Still think it is funny. Don't know for sure but it appears he was a brother and not a pledge.

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