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No, it's actually like having oral sex performed on you, rather than having intercourse.

Now, you may not differentiate between the two, but most people would assign a greater severity to one over the other. Some Congressional committees and former presidents would agree.

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Yes, sex is probably WORSE than oral sex.... But I would still dump a guy for it. I would probably dump a guy for making out with another girl. Cheating is cheating. PERIOD.

oral sex is definately cheating....
I know alot of guys that don't like strippers. I know guys that do.
What I don't know is alot of guys that would cheat right before getting married.
oh Guys definately talk!! They are worse than girls!!

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You'll note that I didn't say anything at all about cheating (or punctuation) - just pointing out that there are definite degrees, even if it's still cheating (punctuation) or whatever.

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To me there are no degrees, it all holds the same weight with the same consequences. Which probably makes all the guys happy they're not my husband ;)

1. Are bachelor parties somehow exempt from the normal rules of cheating?
HELL NO.

2. Do girls realize that cheating goes on at these parties and don't care as long as they don't know for sure?
HELL NO.

3. If you found out later, maybe after you were married, would it matter? Would you leave him?
YES it would matter. If I found out before the wedding, that wedding would be cancelled immediately. If after we were married...I don't know, but I do know we'd both be getting tested for every STD out there.

Re: Is cheating at the bachelor party ok?
 

So my questions are:
1. Are bachelor parties somehow exempt from the normal rules of cheating?

NO

2. Do girls realize that cheating goes on at these parties and don't care as long as they don't know for sure?

GIRLS AND WOMEN DO NOT WANT TO BE CHEATED ON. WE TRUST OUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER TO RESPECT OUR RELATIONSHIP AND WE AS WOMEN SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST THEM TO KEEP IT IN THEIR PANTS IF WE ARE IN A COMMITTED EXCLUSIVE RELATIONSHIP TO MAINTAIN OUR TRUST NOT TO MENTION PERSONAL HEALTH.

3. If you found out later, maybe after you were married, would it matter? Would you leave him?

I WOULD BE VERY HURT, AND TRUST WOULD BE BROKEN. I'D WANT TO BE TESTED FOR STD'S AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY DISCUSS WHAT HAPPENED AND WEIGH OUR OPTIONS.

IT IS NEVER OK TO CHEAT ON SOMEONE. IF YOU WANT OUT OF THE RELATIONSHIP, BE AN ADULT AND BREAK IT OFF.

YEAH JAMES. YOU STUPID DOH DOH HEAD. WHY DO YOU ASK STUPID QUESTIONS JUST TO GET A REACTION FROM THE WOMEN. DID YOU HONESTLY THINK THEY WERE GOING TO SAY " YES IT IS OK TO CHEAT ON ME...I GO BY THE 3 STRIKES RULE "

YOU BAFOON. DO YOU HAVE THE BRAIN OF A MOP? WHY DO YOU TALK SO MUCH IN YOUR POST. YOU TYPE TOO MUCH. I ALWAYS READ THE 1ST SENTENCE OF YOUR POST AND SAY " BLAH BLAH BLAH...LAST SENTENCE BLAH".

MERRY CHRISTMAS YA FILTHY ANIMAL.

AND HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR


ETA: BTW THAT LINE WAS FROM HOME ALONE 2 YA JERK

ETA: WAIT...IT MIGHT BE HOME ALONE UNO.

FYI... I think it was used in BOTH Home Alone and Home Alone 2. :D

As it should have been, it's a great line.

hmmm....this is an interesting thread indeed.

So my questions are:
1. Are bachelor parties somehow exempt from the normal rules of cheating?

Definitely not. Why do guys seem to think that? From what I've heard, it's definitely common for guys to get strippers for their bachelor parties which...I'm ok with (not thrilled with the idea, but ok with it). I'm guessing trouble probably comes when things get out of hand and the guys have too much to drink and suddenly it becomes an excellent idea to bang the stripper without any thought of the concequences.

2. Do girls realize that cheating goes on at these parties and don't care as long as they don't know for sure?

I think it probably goes on a little more often than girls think (just speculating here!) although if the guy cheats at the bachelor party, it's probably either because he has had way too much to drink or he's just a cheater in general. I just think that if you're in a mutually exclusive relationship, that definitely does not mean bachelor parties are an exception to the rule!

3. If you found out later, maybe after you were married, would it matter? Would you leave him?

I know I would be very upset and angry if I found out my groom cheated at his bachelor party. I'd definitely want him tested for diseases and we'd have to have a serious talk about our marriage and our options. We all have skeletons in our closets but....that's a pretty damn big skeleton. Turning the situation around, I know that if I ever cheated on him, bachelorette party or not, I'd be gone in two seconds. There are no exceptions to the rule in my relationships. It would be so hard to trust someone if they kept something that huge a secret.

If a tree falls and nobody is there to see it fall, did it fall? I say no.

If you win a war, you are a hero. If you lose, you are a war criminal. Burning down hundreds of thousands of Japanese in WWII was proof of that.

If she doesn't find out, is it cheating?

-Rudey
--I say no

She'll find out if there's a STD to deal with. Or photos. Or people with mouths.

Trust me, at some day, at some time, she'll find out. It's just a matter of if she decides to talk about it or not.

There was a woman in the seminar I mentioned before who had been treated for STDs eight different times before she could confront her husband about them. Then, the jerk told her that SHE must be catching it from a public rest room. She finally left when he gave her both herpes and AIDS.

You're right. Gentlemen make sure your photos don't show your face, you use a jimmy hat and other STD prevention methods, and make sure you don't have jerk friends that will tell on you or do it when nobody is looking.

So no she won't find out unless you're retarded. And if she does, blame it on the blood transfusions you had as a child.

-Rudey

I'm going to go out on a limb and let people know my freaky, sex-positive side by saying this...

... but if my fiance told me ahead of time that there might be the possibility that he'd like to have sex with someone at the bachelor party, I'd be okay with it. It's not the sex that bothers me -- it's the lying.

Of course, he'd have to be okay with me getting my final freak on the night before as well. Can't have a double standard.

UMMM....what?

I think that's the kind of attitude people are talking about when they say that if you feel the need to have sex at your bachelor party, you're probably not ready to get married.

That's her opinion. Who are you to judge? Huh Froggy?

On the contrary. It means I don't have an idealized, romaticized view of weddings, marriage, and sex. Bachelor parties are supposed to be about the last hurrah -- bachelorette parties too. It's not my fault that most women have their panties in too tight of a knot to take advantage of that fact.

can I ask all of yall something...why do all (well most) females say that if they ever caught their boyfriend/husband cheating on them or something equally as bad that they would leave them, and then when it happens they always (or most of the time) find some reason to take them back...or at least that has been the case with most of the people I know.

I could never deal with it, but I admire your viewpoint.

The thing I don't like about this is that if you and your spouse want to do that, it's fine with me - but why is it NOT fine with you that I don't want to and would find it disrespectful. I don't really care what you do, but I think that my relationship should be monogamous before and after marriage, and that has nothing to do with my panties.

Wishful thinking? If it were my boyfriend, I would drop him. If it were my husband, I would probably separate for a time but would not divorce because I don't believe in it. We'd need some MAJOR therapy but God forgives so I do too.

I'm wondering if you're serious (you would do this yourself) or if you're trying to make a point????

I'm going to have to agree with GeekyPenguin here. I could care less what you do in your relationships and your marriage (or anyone else's, for that matter) but I like my monogomous relationships just fine thank you and I think your last sentence was unnecessary.

I respect how you feel. But would you be okay with your boyfriend doing it every night or other night? Would you be okay with your boyfriend saying to you "hey baby, we can't go out tonight. I'm going to go out with the boys to a club and I'm going to pick up some woman and bang her all night."?

I just don't know why it would be okay to do it one night but not many nights before you are married.

I'm feeling like we should be stocking up on Swingers' Club memberships for some GCers... because really, what is the difference?:confused:

I am so sending BOTH of my brothers to my future husband bachelor party. With 6'4 and 6'5 brothers in residence, even if he was tempted there is NO WAY... ;) ha ha ha ha ha

That depends. Is he sneaking behind my back, or is he being upfront about it? Is there a double-standard at play? Because if there is, then all bets are off.

Y'know, I just don't think sex is all that big a deal.

Well, I'm already married, but my husband and I talked about all of this stuff before we got married. We had ground rules about what was and what was not acceptable behavior. It turns out neither of us decided to walk that line, but to me, what's most important here is not that it was on the table, but that we had an open enough system of communication to talk about this issue instead of sneaking around it.

Oh, and for everyone getting all in a lather about my "panties in a knot" comment - it's called humor. Relax. ;)

I'm curious - why make the distinction between your boyfriend and your husband? Are there degrees of infidelity?

(I'm not attacking you, I'm just interested in hearing your POV.)

Swinging usually involves three or more people engaged in sex all at the same time, for starters. That's cool if that's what some people are into - who am I to judge - but it's really not my cuppa tea.

On that note, what you said made me wonder: what if he wants a divorce? Would you not do it because you don't believe in it?
also not trying to attack you here, I was just curious.

No, he's being upfront about it. I mean if you and your partner have the agreement that sex outside the relationship is okay, then by all means go nuts. But do you expect a monogomous relationship while you're dating, but one night is okay as long as you know?

Sistermadly, it's great that you're openminded.

It's not a matter of being conservative in wanting to protect myself from the possible transmission of an STD or HIV as a result of this last hurrah by mr. soon to be hubby. I shouldn't have to get sick or die because he had sex of any kind with Diseased Desdemona.

I think People jump to quickly to divorce these days. Divorce should really be a last resort!!
I think if the problem truely can not be worked through then divorce...

My answer to this is: only if you think a hockey stick or cricket bat ot the balls as 4AM is cool... seriously if you are such a tool that you cheat on the woman you claim to love - you should expect some pay back if not divorce at the very least.

Personally if I ever sunk so very low, I wouldn't be surprised if the wife to be leveled so serious hurt at the minimum... not that I'd even allow/expect rippers and such at a stag party - it's about the guys having fun; and fun doesn't mean rippers unless the guys are fucking boring as hell.

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Co-Sign!

Rippers? You mean like getting really drunk, as in "I went to a ripper last night, and boy am I hungover."