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mulattogyrl 05-26-2006 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by focus
If you call division one small, maybe so. But as Homecoming Queen and Student Body President, I guess I can say that I know a great deal of people. But you weren't being demeaning, that could very well be the case.

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).

So, what made you run for Homecoming Queen if not pride?

btb87 05-26-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small world after all, It's a small, small world.
Doggone it, now I'm gonna be hearing that for the rest of the day.:(

focus 05-26-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by mulattogyrl
So, what made you run for Homecoming Queen if not pride?
I didn't run for Homecomign Queen. At my school you can't run for it. Its done on merit, academic, etc and is set up more like a Leadership Court then a Homecoming one to reward campus leaders. But no, Im not perfect if thats what you are trying to imply, no one is, and I can probabley list out all of my flaws. But thats besides that point. I don't want to make it in to a personal thing. Just intellectual people presenting intellectual ideas.

mulattogyrl 05-26-2006 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by focus
I didn't run for Homecomign Queen. At my school you can't run for it. Its done on merit, academic, etc and is set up more like a Leadership Court then a Homecoming one to reward campus leaders. But no, Im not perfect if thats what you are trying to imply, no one is, and I can probabley list out all of my flaws. But thats besides that point. I don't want to make it in to a personal thing. Just intellectual people presenting intellectual ideas.
I'm not implying anything. The mere fact that you mentioned that you held positions at all shows pride, a big sin according to you. That's all I'm saying. And you're right, none of us are perfect. :)

focus 05-26-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by mulattogyrl
I'm not implying anything. The mere fact that you mentioned that you held positions at all shows pride, a big sin according to you. That's all I'm saying.
Currection: its a big sin according to the bible, not me, and what you are quoting comes from another source that I copied the link to. But in response to that, I did not mention it to brag about what I have done if thats what you mean, it was to show that my view of people in the world may be a bit bigger than one may think. But again, its not about me, or my flaws, its about the issue of why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join certain greek orgs. And it has nothing to do with being a perfect person or not, so I hope you don't think I am saying that being in a greek org means your not perfect or capable of trying to live a "perfect life" because thats not what I tried to imply.

teena 05-26-2006 12:18 PM

^^I dont get you've overall point. What is the overall question?

focus 05-26-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by teena
^^I dont get you've overall point. What is the overall question?
Well the point was to clear up some misconceptions about why some Christ-like people feel like they can't join certain greek orgs.

f8nacn 05-26-2006 07:03 PM

So...are you just lifting up views of "other" Christians or yourself as well...are you pursuing membership into a sorority or are you trying to dissuade people from joining fraternities/sororities?

AKA_Monet 05-26-2006 07:13 PM

^^^Do not worry about what is on other people's plates, worry about your own...

Fred Hatchett was warned about his intimidation of several greeks on this entire GC board, hence the board owner's decision to "ban" him from any disruptive and unuseful discussion on GC...

From what I understand Fred has been on other boards acking a fool for what he his... He preaches "the love of Christ" but practices "the intolerance of others". That is not the Christ nor the Christianity I believe in or that I want to follow. He promulagates and spews out "chapter and verse of the Christian Bible", but shows no "love or compassion leading through the love of Christ". He calls himself to "rebuke sinners who are in BGLO's", but forsakes them when they need him the most, never uplifting people toward the eyes of God, as if he can...

That to me is a false prophet and you know what the Christian Bible says about that...

"The demons know about Christ, and shudder in fear..."

Read another way, the Devil knows the Christian Bible and all religious texts backwards and forwards and quote each them in their native languages chapter and verse...

The fact is it does not matter who knows more about the Bible or any religious text better than another one. It matters more with what you do with that knowledge and how it brings yours relationship closer to God as shown through what you do for your fellow man, as a Christian, your worshipfulness as a Jew, and your devotion as a Muslim...

Basically Hindis believe in a different god than Christians, Jews and Muslims... And Buddhists do not believe in a Supreme Being concept like other religions do.

The question remains, would I call all other folks who are not Christians evil? Pagans? Heathens? That is what the Christian Bible calls us to do...

Hence what Fred Hatchett is saying in his religious studies debasing Fraternities and Sororities, specifically BGLO's. His entire church is devoted to taking down BGLO's to its entirety...

I suggest that Rev. Hatchett be very careful with whom he wishes to destroy...

f8nacn 05-26-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
^^^Do not worry about what is on other people's plates, worry about your own...

Hence what Fred Hatchett is saying in his religious studies debasing Fraternities and Sororities, specifically BGLO's. His entire church is devoted to taking down BGLO's to its entirety...


I believe the first statement was directed toward me, and with that I will leave that alone. FOCUS...no need to answer. I respect you for what you are doing and believe I have already stated that on another thread in this forum. Be Blessed and Stay Encouraged in your Pursuit to Pleasing God in all that You Do. May the seeds that you've planted return a harvest unto you 100-fold in the name of Jesus. Amen.

There are definitely fanatics in every religion/demonation, sect, that's why it is important to be girded and stand firm in whatever it is that you believe so that when people attack/criticize, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt, already, what it is that you believe.

AKA_Monet 05-26-2006 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by f8nacn
I believe the first statement was directed toward me, and with that I will leave that alone. FOCUS...no need to answer. I respect you for what you are doing and believe I have already stated that on another thread in this forum. Be Blessed and Stay Encouraged in your Pursuit to Pleasing God in all that You Do. May the seeds that you've planted return a harvest unto you 100-fold in the name of Jesus. Amen.

There are definitely fanatics in every religion/demonation, sect, that's why it is important to be girded and stand firm in whatever it is that you believe so that when people attack/criticize, you know beyond a shadow of a doubt, already, what it is that you believe.

You posted before I got done... I should have used the quote feature...

Quite "jumpy" are we??? ;) T'ain't that skeerioussss, yet... :cool:

f8nacn 05-26-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Nah soror, you posted before I got done... I should have used the quote feature...

Quite "jumpy" are we??? ;) T'ain't that skeerioussss, yet... :cool:

I am not a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha...I am a sisterfriend

Marie 05-26-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by soulfulremix
:confused:

I mean... really. I was a freshman in High school at the time of this last post.


Off topic, but wow time flies. I was a senior in high school when this thread originally began, and now I'm out of college for 2 years. YAY! I have measurable accomplishments in that time frame. Ok, back to the discussion.

focus 05-26-2006 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by f8nacn
So...are you just lifting up views of "other" Christians or yourself as well...are you pursuing membership into a sorority or are you trying to dissuade people from joining fraternities/sororities?
Im not trying to dissuade anyone. Again, I just wanted to give the thread some insight as to why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join greek orgs.

ladygreek 05-26-2006 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by focus
Im not trying to dissuade anyone. Again, I just wanted to give the thread some insight as to why some Christ-like people feel like that can't join greek orgs.
And the bottom line is that is okay. We have plenty of Christ-like, Allah-like, Buddha-like, etc. people who feel they can do both. None of us are hurting for members, so it's all good.

preciousjeni 05-27-2006 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by focus
I would first like to apologize for the way a fellow Christian came at your organization. He may have good intentions but it was wrong to come at you all like that. I just wanted to clear up a few things that may help some people understand where Christians who decide not to join greek orgs. are coming from. This is from http://www.gotquestions.org/fraternity-s...

Its called:
Why Christians should not join worldly fraternities/sororities

I wanted to give some real concrete reasons from the bible about why Christians dont feel like they can be apart of sororities and fraternities.

The first question that needs to be asked is why a person would want to join a fraternity / sorority. Motives in Gods eyes are all important. (1 Samuel 16:7). Only you truly know what your motives are. Depending on your reasons, different issues come to the forefront. If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because they have the best parties, the bible says that such a life should belong in one's unsaved past, not in the present life of a believer (1 Peter 4:3).

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).

A Christian's closest compansionship should be with fellow Christians, and not companionship based on some other external tie such as belonging to the same fraternity / sorority, having gone to the same school, coming from same race or social class, etc. (Galatians 3:28; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13; 12:24-26; Galatians 6:10; John 13:34-35). This is because who one has as his closet companions is a major issue in scripture whether they be fraternity brothers, roommates in a dorm, classmates, etc. Here are a few of Scripture's admonitions concerning this issue: "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners" (1 Corinthians 15:33). The people around you can really hurt or help your walk with God and if your sorority/fraternity brothers aren't trying to live a Holy life then they can bring you down easier then you can bring them up. "He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed" (Proverbs 13:20). "I am a companion of them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts" (Psalm 119:63).

I hope this helped everyone understand a little more. Please know that I am not trying to judge but instead trying to clear up some misconceptions between two groups of people with different beliefs. At the end of the day it comes down to whether you think your relationship with God is ok or is it being hindered by your involvement with a group of people.

Gos Bless

The proof-texters are out in force these days on GC!

Lady of Pearl 05-28-2006 11:18 PM

For myself wanting to join a sorority for me was for community service; I never led a wild life style before or after joining a sorority and count many of my Sorors as sisters in Christ also. It is possible to be Christian and a Sorority member. It's about one's priorities-I also prayed that God's will would be done in my life as it related to my desire to be a part of my sorority. I have come across more Sorors who are Christian and some who are also Ministers that are a part of my sorority.

PositivelyAKA 05-29-2006 02:59 AM

Mind your business
 
I remember getting numerous comments from non-greek christians who felt being in a frat or sorority was somehow "wrong". But i say this, if you are doing positive things like serving others through an organization, it does not matter if it is a greek letter organization or the urban league. Many who claim to be "christians" are not even living Christ-like and should stick to minding their own business....

Lady of Pearl 05-29-2006 06:27 PM

Not every one who says Lord Lord will enter into heaven be- those claiming to be Christ like Christians or the true authentic Chriristian. The ultimate authority to separate the wheat from the tares is God alone. We all must be about our Father's Business

DSTdimepiece 05-30-2006 09:52 AM

AMEN!!!

f8nacn 05-30-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by Lady of Pearl
Not every one who says Lord Lord will enter into heaven be- those claiming to be Christ like Christians or the true authentic Chriristian. The ultimate authority to separate the wheat from the tares is God alone. We all must be about our Father's Business
Exactly so we can't place ourselves in a position to judge...

Gods Ivy 06-02-2006 01:39 PM

I would just like to say that you can be a Christian and be an AKA too. As long as you talked it over with God and He told you that was the right decision, then go for it. I for one know my entire purpose in pledging was to change the image of the way my sorority was viewed on my campus and to make a difference in the world and I could not have gone through half of what I experienced without the Lord carrying me. Just to inform and educate-the principles of AKA are surrounded around spirituality and not Greek mythology so God is in us automatically. AKA is defined by the Greek alphabet letters and that is about as Greek as it gets. When our beautiful sorority was founded, we could not vote and were not viewed as important to society because we were women. We fought for change and equality as women and are still fighting. You are not successful without God and you never will be without God. We are only vessels and He ensures our breath comes out of our mouths and blood pump through our veins. We would not have had a sorority to be founded by young college women with a mission to change the way the world viewed us as women if we were Greek worshipers. Our sorority was not founded to wear colors, be pretty, or worship a Greek God or Goddess (man that was far fetched and if you were a part of us you would know that, so I can't fault you too much for your ignorance) but to bring about change and unity among women.


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