I like wptw because he's like my dad. He thinks up stuff I wouldn't have thought of before, but then if I work on it awhile I figure out that maybe he's right.

Kappa doesn't exactly have a horrid past over something that happened so long ago at a time when that kind of discrimination was the norm. And, a great point was made -- even if they'd done something awful, something great (AOII) came out of it.

I think this is a great example of greek unity.

wow....106 was forever ago.

DITTO!
 

Well said, HotDamnImAPhiMu!

I personally love hearing all these stories about how our individual sororities got started and being here in the Atlanta area where both ADPi and PhiMu have their headquarters makes it even more topical....in another thread, i got some great infor about the links between my Gamma Phi Beta and Alpha Phi and Alpha Gamma Delta...it is just so cool to think on the fortitude and vison and determination all of the founders of our sororities had back then...on ebay right now there is an old photo for sale of the Gamma chapter of Gamma Phi Beta - circa very early 1900's -- our Gamma chapter is at the University of Wisconsin Madison -- if you look at the photo of the women then and think about how a more current photo of the same chapter would look now -WoW! is all I can say...I am grateful for the things all of our founders did way back then...aren't y'all????

Re: DITTO!
 

I went and searched for that picture of the early 1900s Gamma Phi's -- it certainly does look different than today's Gamma chapter Gamma Phi Betas! :D Can you imagine girls looking at photos of today's sorority girls a hundred years from now, and how antiquated we'll look to them?

It's so interesting to think about.

And you know what's an amazing yet sad thing ...
 

...to think about vis-a-vis that old Gamma chapter photo on ebay? That is the SAME chapter that Dr Laurel Clark (she died with the rest of her crew last week when the space shuttle Columbia exploded) was a member of at UWM in the early to mid 1980's. Just imagine the women in that old picture learning that another chapter sister many years hence would slip the surly bonds and fly into outer space?

Any chance y'all will post the then-and-now Gamma chapter photos?

What a great org to lead the way for such a great lady who made such a great sacrifice.

Lemme try this....
 

Here is the picture on ebay -- CIRCA 1901:
http://members.aol.com/k2traveler/ebayk/uwgpb.jpg


AND this is a member of that same chapter over 100 years later...
http://www.bradenton.com/images/char...5901070091.jpg

Here is the 1901 picture:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=11145

Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of the entire chapter today, but here are some pictures from almost exactly one hundred years later, of Gamma Phi Betas, DG's, and the ocassional Kappa Sig and SAE, taken from the UW SAE page (the Gamma chapter of Gamma Phi Beta does not have a webpage):


http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sae/images/...e2/htmlpix.htm


A little bit different, wouldn't you say?

sorry for hijacking this thread but I can get us all back on topic.....;) ;) ;)
.....thought y'all would like to see a picture of the Cannonball house in Macon. According to their website, the Cannonball House parlors recreate the original meeting rooms of the Adelphian Society and the Philomathean Society. The Adelphian society, now known as the Alpha Delta Pi sorority, and the Philomathean Society, now known as the Phi Mu fraternity, were the first two sororities in existence. Both were formed in Macon at Wesleyan College in 1851 and 1852.


http://www.cannonballhouse.org/CBH%20photo2.jpg

For the record, no one has PM'd me to ask me directly what group it was. Had they done so, I would have told them. I just don't believe in posting it publicly.
Thank you.

I guess a lot of people don't feel there is anything wrong with posting that sort of information. Turn-of-the-century NYC is VERY different from today - and Stella was from Louisiana! :) Prejudices are there and will always be there - unless you make every EXACTLY the same and what fun is that?! ;) It was actually the 'prejudices' that created every sorority or greek letter organization around (people did feel a connection with others, people were shunned by others because they were the first where they were, etc). I'm glad that the Kappa chapter didn't want to extend an invitation to Stella - and that Jessie, Bess, and Helen stood with their friend. :)

By the way, I love this thread about ADII and Phi Mu - but then again, it pulls at the Social Historian in me :)

Sarah

Edited to add: For the record :), UWM is not UW-Madison. UWM is UW-Milwaukee. UW-Madison is either UW-Madison or for those in Wisconsin or neighboring states just Madison/Madtown (only because we tend to talk about UW-Madison more often in a way that leaves the UW part implied. . . ). :)

How exciting!!! I would love to visit the Cannonball house in Macon to see it!!!

Have any ADPi's or Phi Mu's or anyone else gone to see it?

I saw it probably 6 years ago didn't go in. I was there at night so of course you can go in then.

What a beautiful house! And how wonderful to know that that history is being preserved!

Most of y'all have probably read this before, but I'm going to post it for texas*princess' sake:


This tells better in person, when I can do the proper accents, but... My best sorority friend, Cheryl & I both had job interviews in Atlanta, & we were able to make them for the same day. Flew to Atlanta, only to find out that we weren't able to rent a car because we were under 25. We sat there with our luggage, disgusted, trying to decide what to do when we saw a familiar face: "Isn't that Dave?" It was Dave, who was dating a sister of ours, and believe it or not, he worked for Hertz! We got a car!

We had made arrangements to stay at Emory University, since it was closest, and the ADPi house was incredible! All the sororities have the same basic townhouse, but this was decorated magnificently! If you ever saw photos of how Princess Diana decorated Highgrove, in the lovely blues, whites, and yellows, you get the idea. Only 4 or 5 sisters could live there, but they were really hospitable. The only possible complaint I could have was that it was arctic in the basement (where we were sleeping)!! The only time we wore our coats was to sleep in!

Neither of us decided to take the jobs offered to us (another long story), so we visited Alpha Delta Pi's Executive Offices. Well! The welcome simply could not have been warmer, and we so enjoyed seeing the memorabilia and the Executive Office. Delightful! High on ADPi, we decided to get up early the next day, and drive to Macon, home of the Adelphean Society which is now Alpha Delta Pi, first society for college women founded in 1851.

Now, I should tell y'all that Cheryl has a tendency to stutter when she's upset. Also, we are both of Virginian descent, but had PA driver's licenses at the time. I should also tell you that my mama had given us very strict warnings to be more than careful while in Macon County. Cheryl was driving, and I was riding shotgun. The ride to Macon itself was uneventful, but once we got into the town itself, we were hopelessly lost.

We pulled over & were looking at a map of Macon, when we realized that a police car had trapped us on the side. The policeman got out, looked pointedly at the Hertz license plate, and asked, "Are you little ladies in trouble?" Cheryl almost fainted. I drawled, "No, sir," just as I noticed that another police car was now in front of us, and that policeman - wearing the Smoky hat & mirrored sunglasses - was coming up to my side of the car. Hands on his hips, he basically thrust his groin to the car window, and said, "Where y'all from?" (picture about 15 syllables in that statement) Cheryl started stuttering, "P-P-P-P-P-P-P..." just as I said, "Why, Virginia, sir! We're looking for Georgia Wesleyan!" Cheryl looked at me as if I had gone mad, and kept saying frantically, "P-P-P-P-P-P...!" The policemen relaxed a little, and said, "Why y'all want the college?" I was giving them my best Scarlett O'Hara dimples and eye fluttering, and responded, "Why, Officer, we're Alpha Delta Pi's, and we'd like to see the Adelphean Room y'all have up there!"

Well! You would have thought I said I was the Queen of Sheba there to grant their every wish! The "mirrored one" stepped back, and said, "Deputy, escort these little ladies to the College, and you show them some hospitality!" The deputy gave us a full police escort, lights & all, and took us directly to the Adelphean Room - which was locked! Seems that they were refurbishing both the Adelphean & Philomathean rooms at the time, but we were allowed a quick glance through a window. He made sure we know a good restaurant while we were in town, told Betty Lou that we were Alpha Delta Pi girls ("We have us some Alpha Delta Pi girls here!"), and made sure we knew how to get back on the highway! All in all, a most memorable experience - even though we never did see the room!


postscript: I think every Alpha Delta Pi and every Phi Mu should do their best to visit Georgia Wesleyan. It's an incredible journey!!

Now that I've read the whole thread...

An ADPi from my chapter recently had a daughter rush at George Mason, where there is no chapter of Alpha Delta Pi. So, according to her mother, she did the next best thing: pledge Alpha Omicron Pi!!! Close enough, I suppose!

honeychile,

Thank you soooo much for posting your experience in Georgia!!!

It sounds absolutely lovely, and now I definately want to make a road trip sometime to see it!!! :)

Honeychile~ I love that story! It makes me want to visit Georgia Wesleyan even more and Macon even more!

no kidding -- how wonderful!

All right, I know this is an old thread, but I never knew about it and just got done reading it, but I say....

Let's plan a GC road trip and all go see it together!!!

We'll pick a central US starting point, and then do a caravan drive down to Georgia Wesleyan and visit the Cannonball House together! :)

Now, who's with me?? ;) :D

Alpha Delta Pis and Phi Mus together? I think that would be AWESOME!!!!

Count me in!!

Isn't there another thread about ADPi & Phi Mu, where we decided to become the "Macon Magnolias"?

I think it was last June, and using lilac or lavender as our "color" was deemed appropriate, as a mix of azure blue & pink.

count me in!
woo hoo!! road trip!!

Okay, I found the link:

\[\^\\s\][^\s]*&pagenumber=2]Macon Magnolias


ETA: I just checked the link - it works!

All right, so this road trip would probably need to take place sometime in the summer, I'm guessing, and maybe it wouldn't have to be all of us meeting in one place and then driving to Macon and visiting the Cannonball House, but maybe we can make the GC ADPi/Phi Mu meetup AT the Cannonball House on a certain date....could you imagine the huge crowd we could get there??? :D

And BTW, I love the idea of the Macon Magnolias (even if I'm coming into the idea about 6 months later :D)....I'm going to have to remember that!

The Cannonball House is absolutely beautiful. I am an ADPi at Mercer University, which is located not too far from the Cannonball House. ADPi's and Phi Mu's from Mercer often volunteer at the Cannonball House during Macon's Cherry Blossom Festival. It is a great opportunity to share our related histories and our own personal sorority experiences with tourists and visitors during the Festival.
I love being in Macon where both of these organizations were founded...lots of history around town!!!

~Happy New Year~

I want to go...I want to go...I don't know if I can go...but I want to go...

I love it :-)

I have this huge urge to learn more about Phi Mu all of the sudden!! :) This really could be awesome, as I'm sure y'all know...

I'm right there with you, honey! I wish (like many others do) that my university had a chapter of Phi Mu...it would've been great to have both Macon Magnolias there!

I love history like this. I think it so wonderful the way Phi Mu and ADII are linked. Very interesting. Good job to all who researched it.

Bump!!

Question: Do all schools with the Monmouth Duo have a Monmouth dance/formal? I know Baylor's Pi Phis and Kappas have their Monmouth formal every other year I believe. It was really cute, one year they had sweatshirts with the same front but some had keys on the back and some had arrows.

ANYWAY, my question is, do any schools with ADPi and Phi Mu do a similar event? I think that'd be pretty groovy. We do not have Phi Mu at Baylor, but I always thought it'd be cool if we did.

What about the Miami Triad (I think it's called??) what is their story? It's Sigma Chi, Phi Delt and Beta right?

Just out of curiosity, when is the Cherry Blossom Festival this year?


*putting on the old thinking cap*

Official Cherry Blossom Website

2004 Cherry Blossom Festival (Macon, GA)

is scheduled from March 19 - March 28, 2004.

So, mark your calendars now to join us in the

heart of Georgia for ten glorious days of

celebration and excitement.



For more information, please contact the Cherry Blossom Festival Offices at

794 Cherry Street

Macon, GA 31201

(478) 751-7429

fax: (478) 751-7408

At Mercer, we have both an ADPi and a Phi Mu chapter. In March or April, the chapters co-sponsor Peaches & Pie, an annual alumnae tea that is held at Wesleyan College where we were both founded. Last year, we had Helen Glenn, charter member of the Beta Sigma chapter, as our guest speaker (ADPi's can read about her in the latest edition of The Adelphean!). It is a nice chance for alumnae and collegians from both sisterhoods to come together for an afternoon.

That sounds perfectly lovely! I do hope y'all take pictures for the Adelphean - it's such a cute idea!!

As for the Cherry Blossom Festival, I already have SO much scheduled that week. :( I was getting some fun ideas, too!

Honey, we'll have to schedule a Macon meeting sometime. Wouldn't that be fun?

Something I find interesting that no one has mentioned yet is that ADPi/the Adelphean Society was originally a secret society. The members who founded PhiMu/the Philmothean (sp) society theoretically did not know about the Adelphean Society b/c it was secret... (this still ties over to today's rituals). So both groups supposedly were founded without direct knowledge of the membership of either group.

Hmm -- I'm pretty sure that two of the original founders of ADPi and Phi Mu roomed together, and it was following the refusal of an invitation to the Phi Mu to join that jumpstarted the Philomathian society....

Honeychile -- I loved reading your story. :) Just wanted to point out that Macon County and the city of Macon, Georgia, are two different places. (The city of Macon is in Bibb County, and Macon County is a bit further south, past Crawford, Peach and Houston counties.)