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douchebag 02-23-2006 06:15 PM

I don't even own letters

honeychile 02-23-2006 11:46 PM

I keep stressing that having your photo taken while you're drinking, smoking, or doing anything that can be misinterpreted while in your letters isn't a great idea. Once it's taken, you lose control of it, and it can end up anywhere.

I'm not saying that I'm perfect, and never had a drink while in my letters, but I probably did a lot of other stupid things while in school. Who am I kidding - I know I did!

georgewallace3 02-24-2006 01:01 AM

No shit, all I said in my post was that I wear a jacket and tie to tailgates for football games and khakis and a polo or buttondown to the bars, sometimes jeans and an oxford with a blazer.

What the hell is the deal with you gdi moderators deleting those posts. I guess thats your way of flexing your internet muscle.

maybe if I were in a service org. or a TKE my post could have stayed.

honeychile 02-24-2006 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by shinerbock
seriously, who are the GDI mods who keep deleting posts. Mine said basically, I don't have this problem cause I don't wear t shirts, and thats all I have with letters. I guess thats offensive. Maybe if I had said I don't believe in God and voted for Kerry they'd have let it stay.
Not all of the mods have those opinions!!!!!

shinerbock 02-24-2006 10:13 AM

Did you go to Mercer?

dzrose93 02-24-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by shinerbock
Did you go to Mercer?
The "Macon Magnolia" portion of honeychile's signature is there because her organization was founded at Wesleyan in Macon. Phi Mu and ADPi were both founded there, and lots of GCers from those orgs have the "proud to be a Macon Magnolia" note in their sigs due to that.

valkyrie 02-24-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Not all of the mods have those opinions!!!!!
I don't believe in god and voted for Kerry and my posts are deleted, too. :(

georgewallace3 02-24-2006 01:37 PM

weren't there only like 4 people that voted for kerry? i'm pretty sure the dems. were even embarassed over him.

OPhiARen3 02-24-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by douchebag
I don't even own letters
Why not?

speckledpup 02-24-2006 04:19 PM

that's hilarious

shinerbock 02-24-2006 04:42 PM

Didn't work, but i'm not giving up yet...I'll have to think of something worse this time...Both of my fathers are Delts.

tallgreekalum 02-25-2006 02:54 PM

Two comments:
1. Kerry got more votes than any presidential candidate in history..except for George Bush. 50,000 voters changed their minds in Ohio and HE'D be president.

2. I know our (Inter) National (one of the oldest in the country) sells glassware at convention that is clearly meant for alcohol. We do not support the "dry house" concept, but believe that a brother is an adult and should be responsible. If you are doing something you'd be embarassed to have associated with Alpha Delt, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT! As a brother, you should intervene if another brother is. We've all taken oaths to do so.
OK, I'm done!:)

DeltAlum 02-25-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by shinerbock
Didn't work, but i'm not giving up yet...I'll have to think of something worse this time...Both of my fathers are Delts.
At least your mom has good taste.

BabyPiNK_FL 02-25-2006 04:00 PM

I could drink in my letters, I am legal, but I choose not to because I don't want anyone to stereotype me or my sisters. People think what they want regardless, so why encourage it?

valkyrie 02-25-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by BabyPiNK_FL
I could drink in my letters, I am legal, but I choose not to because I don't want anyone to stereotype me or my sisters. People think what they want regardless, so why encourage it?
In the alternative, people thing what they want regardless, so why care?

DZTurtle06 02-26-2006 09:39 PM

I agree that I dont really think it matters that much because people will form there own opinions about you before they even know you, or know that you are in Greek life. I dont think its a good idea to go out every night wearing your letters and getting trashed, but I also dont think it is a big deal if your are 21 or older and are having a few drinks at the bar and wearing your letters. Odds are, the people that already know you, know how you are and what you do on the weekends. So I think that if you are that worried about it, then you probably shouldnt be wearing them out in bars and stuff, but if you know how you handle yourself, then you'll be fine. I understand the importance of Greek letters, but I also dont think people will judge the sororities and frats on that alone.

Tomsoda 02-26-2006 09:58 PM

Re: Drinking in Letters . .. Damned either way?
 
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Originally posted by James
There have been several threads on the issue of whether Greeks should wear letters while drinking, or whether letters should be on glasses that have an alcohol cannotation: You can have letters on a water bottle but not Champagne Flutes.

It seems almost universal that everyone agreed that drinking while in letters was bad.

After reading the threads I have some philosophical problems that I was hoping y'all could help me solve. ITs caused me some cognitive dissonance as I find that the reality is not meeting the image.

1. We know that drinking is not unethical, and not "bad" so why is not approproate to drink while in letters? Did drinking become "dirty" (like having sex with a close cousin) when I wasn't looking?

2. So since drinking is not unethical or "bad" then it wouldn't be against our core values, correct? Therefore doing a perfectly acceptable activity doesn't represent our organizations badly?

3. And what about mixers? There is an event we go to only because we are Greek and only because we belong to a specific organization. Its a fundamental expression of ourselves as social organizations. Shouldn't we wear letters there? We do make party shirts . . .

4. Or, are we so concerned about the drinking-in-letters issue because we want to falsely advertise ourselves? To do actions and then claim that we don't do them? Isn't that a funamental hypocrisy?

(edited to add)

So help a brother out and explain this stuff to me . . .. . ;)

Considering that most people in college aren't legally allowed to drink, I think you have a bigger problem on your hands...the law.

valkyrie 02-26-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Tomsoda
Considering that most people in college aren't legally allowed to drink, I think you have a bigger problem on your hands...the law.
Are you an attorney as well as a circus preacher?

kddani 02-26-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Are you an attorney as well as a circus preacher?
I could see how the skills would transfer over....

Wonder if he wears a clown nose in court

Tomsoda 02-26-2006 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
I could see how the skills would transfer over....

Wonder if he wears a clown nose in court

Just because it seems the long arm of justice is ignoring something illegal doesn't it mean it isn't wrong.

http://www.madd.org/under21/4847

The United States did not implement a drinking age just because "The Man" wants to keep white middle class kids under his thumb.

However, I'd expect you to adopt a different attitude when reality comes crashing into your idiotic, utterly meaningless fairy tale lives of drinking to an excess and having sex with people you don't care about when you wake up with VD in a pool of your own urine and vomit and wonder what you've done with your life. Real adults don't drink like they're suicidally depressed. Maybe colleges will begin to offer courses on not being stupid.

kddani 02-26-2006 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tomsoda
Maybe colleges will begin to offer courses on not being stupid.
Obviously your college didn't teach that one.

georgewallace3 02-26-2006 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Tomsoda
Just because it seems the long arm of justice is ignoring something illegal doesn't it mean it isn't wrong.

http://www.madd.org/under21/4847

The United States did not implement a drinking age just because "The Man" wants to keep white middle class kids under his thumb.

However, I'd expect you to adopt a different attitude when reality comes crashing into your idiotic, utterly meaningless fairy tale lives of drinking to an excess and having sex with people you don't care about when you wake up with VD in a pool of your own urine and vomit and wonder what you've done with your life. Real adults don't drink like they're suicidally depressed. Maybe colleges will begin to offer courses on not being stupid.


What the hell is your problem. I am in college and allowed to drink excessively and have promiscuous sex with whomever I damn well choose. I also am in a top fraternity, make excellent grades, and got accepted into a top law school. Take your rants and raves elsewhere douchebag.....im gonna go have a scotch.

.....and the drinking age was primarily implemented for political and state funding stipulations.

georgewallace3 02-26-2006 11:01 PM

wrong...

"Even if Congress had voted to reject Ohio's 20 electoral votes, the outcome would have been the same. With 518 valid votes cast (instead of 538), the majority necessary for election by the Electoral College under the Twelfth Amendment would have been 260 votes, which Bush and Cheney, each with 266, would have reached. If Ohio's votes had been deemed to have been cast, but not counted, so that no candidate had a majority, Bush and Cheney would have almost certainly been chosen by the House and Senate, respectively, under the Twelfth Amendment's procedures. Only a complete reversal of Ohio's vote count and a new certification for Kerry could have changed the result."


Quote:

Originally posted by tallgreekalum
Two comments:
1. Kerry got more votes than any presidential candidate in history..except for George Bush. 50,000 voters changed their minds in Ohio and HE'D be president.


SAEalumnus 02-26-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by georgewallace3
.....im gonna go have a scotch.
I'm kinda partial to the glenlivet myself.

RACooper 02-27-2006 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Tomsoda
Maybe colleges will begin to offer courses on not being stupid.
Yeah... you could have used a few semesters in those courses....:rolleyes:

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Real adults don't drink like they're suicidally depressed.
Well then boy'o you'll be happy to hear that I'm shittered but good right now... after a long afternoon of pints with my friend Father Paul and some other priests over from Ireland - We didn't drink like we're 'suicidally' depressed, We drank like we're flipp'in happy so feck off!

DRINK!

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~cubs/pics/jack1.gif

AOII_LB93 02-27-2006 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by Tomsoda
Just because it seems the long arm of justice is ignoring something illegal doesn't it mean it isn't wrong.

http://www.madd.org/under21/4847

The United States did not implement a drinking age just because "The Man" wants to keep white middle class kids under his thumb.

However, I'd expect you to adopt a different attitude when reality comes crashing into your idiotic, utterly meaningless fairy tale lives of drinking to an excess and having sex with people you don't care about when you wake up with VD in a pool of your own urine and vomit and wonder what you've done with your life. Real adults don't drink like they're suicidally depressed. Maybe colleges will begin to offer courses on not being stupid.

For being christian, you are most certainly judgemental...because we all know that everyone who drinks winds up in a pool of their own vomit and urine with VD. Maybe colleges will begin to offer courses in not being a judgemental a-hole...but it's doubtful. It's people like you who make christians who aren't judgemental want to pull out their hair and scream.


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