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fascination 03-12-2012 07:09 PM

I didn't mean to imply that the current members "can't" change. I said that OP is "unlikely to be able to change the personalities of the majority of the existing members into what she is looking for." The current members are under NO obligation to change for OP and may very well prefer things just the way they are. They were there first, after all. OP knew full well what kind of group she was joining; she just didn't know that she couldn't so easily un-join if she changed her mind. So, while she may not change the current members into the types of personalities with whom she wants to associate, she can make an effort to recruit new members more to her liking. The current members may approve, or they may not. Wish we had a happy, easy answer for her and every unhappy poster, but such is life.

Cheerio 03-12-2012 07:54 PM

Wishy-washy doesn't cut it in the real world. YOU make the decision. YOU are the 'frustrated' one. YOU hold the coin you want to flip.

BTW, are you SURE you aren't in the right sorority? Even though you say this group is the one you 'really didn't like', you sound as apathetic as you say your sisters are.

Your 'loving the idea of sorority' does not translate into being willing to work for their betterment and your own.

33girl 03-12-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131629)
I love the idea of sorority but I just feel so frustrated. I'm generally a nice person, but whenever I tell someone I'm in my sorority, they get that "Oh...you're in *that" sorority" face. I'm really sick of that and I don't want people to judge me anymore.

They're not judging you because you're in "that" sorority. They're judging you because you show by your voice, body language and general demeanor that you're ashamed to be in "that" sorority. People don't like people who aren't comfortable with their selves and their lives. It makes THEM think about the worst parts of themselves. If anyone actually says "Gamma Gamma Gamma?!??" (GGG in place of your sorority's real name) then you reply "Yeah, Gamma Gamma Gamma. Do you got a problem with that?" Be proud. Get in people's faces. Be so obnoxiously 110% GGG that people want to smack you over the head. Maybe eventually you'll believe it yourself.

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Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131629)
The biggest issue I have is that I wanted my sorority to be a group of girls that go out and really have fun. There's some sororities on campus who are planning trips with other frats, going out to clubs, going to Renaissance Fairs, even, but my sorority really isn't like that. There are a few outgoing people but a lot of the people are sort of introverted, stay-at-home, socially awkward-ish. (I got that vibe from them and some older members have mentioned it too).

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Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131729)
Yeah I get you. I just don't know how I would help improve the reputation? How does one do that?

I just gotta say this: if your campus is one where Ren Faire is an acceptable fraternity/sorority activity, you are WAY blowing your sorority's awkwardness out of proportion. It may be the Greek system IN GENERAL is not what you thought it would be, but if you want to stay at this school, it is what it is. Go out with the girls in your chapter who like to go out. Be sociable. And most of all, let everyone know that you're a Gamma Gamma Gamma. IT WILL BE NOTICED, and that will have an effect on how fraternity members and rushees think about your chapter.

This all said, if dance team is going to continue to play a major role in your life to the point that the majority of your free time and weekends will be spent with it, you may be better off dropping out of the sorority. (Hint: if this is a college team and many dance competitions fall at the same time as big Greek-wide events, it may be a subtle way of telling the team members that they need to pick one or the other. This happens with other extracurriculars, i.e. band camp happening the same time as rush week.)

violetpretty 03-12-2012 10:36 PM

Simply put, be the change you want to see in your chapter.

33girl 03-12-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 2131842)
Simply put, be the change you want to see in your chapter.

The last time I said that, people laughed at me.

http://www.onesadpanda.com/wp-conten...a_painting.jpg

melindawarren 03-13-2012 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2131849)
The last time I said that, people laughed at me.

http://www.onesadpanda.com/wp-conten...a_painting.jpg

:(

ASTalumna06 03-13-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 2131842)
Simply put, be the change you want to see in your chapter.

This! .. x 1000.

AlphaFrog 03-13-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2131825)

I just gotta say this: if your campus is one where Ren Faire is an acceptable fraternity/sorority activity, you are WAY blowing your sorority's awkwardness out of proportion.

This pretty much made my day. LOL

Old_Row 03-13-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2131825)
I just gotta say this: if your campus is one where Ren Faire is an acceptable fraternity/sorority activity, you are WAY blowing your sorority's awkwardness out of proportion.

Or if she thinks this is an acceptable sorority activity, she is blowing her inability to fit in with the awkward chapter out of proportion.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2131849)

Are you perping AOII?

AOII Angel 03-14-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2131912)
Or if she thinks this is an acceptable sorority activity, she is blowing her inability to fit in with the awkward chapter out of proportion.



Are you perping AOII?

We're never sad pandas.;)

AZTheta 03-14-2012 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2132081)
We're never sad pandas.;)


well...that Lilly print kinda has :eek:scary panda:eek: if you ask me. Had dinner tonight with a Chi O, Sigma Kappa, Tri Delta, Pi Phi, and another Theta. We analyzed all the Lilly prints and decided that :eek:scary panda:eek: just doesn't quite work with the roses. Someone at the table made a crack about Joe Arpaio. Then the PiPhi got all perplexed at the squiggly arrows, and the SK had a few funny things to say about her print. The only one who's happy is the TriDelta. We all agreed on the suitability of the Theta print for rock fighting.

Oh, I'm off topic again. Sorry.

AlphaFrog 03-14-2012 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2131912)
Or if she thinks this is an acceptable sorority activity, she is blowing her inability to fit in with the awkward chapter out of proportion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=CsyR6s6uo40#!

AOII Angel 03-14-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2132083)
well...that Lilly print kinda has :eek:scary panda:eek: if you ask me. Had dinner tonight with a Chi O, Sigma Kappa, Tri Delta, Pi Phi, and another Theta. We analyzed all the Lilly prints and decided that :eek:scary panda:eek: just doesn't quite work with the roses. Someone at the table made a crack about Joe Arpaio. Then the PiPhi got all perplexed at the squiggly arrows, and the SK had a few funny things to say about her print. The only one who's happy is the TriDelta. We all agreed on the suitability of the Theta print for rock fighting.

Oh, I'm off topic again. Sorry.

Rock fighting, huh? I'm gonna have to hear this story! Scary panda, indeed! Damn you Lily Pulitzer!!!!!:mad:

rockwallgreek 03-14-2012 11:27 AM

Alumnae years can be better
 
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Originally Posted by sigmagirl10 (Post 2131643)
Everything DubaiSis has said here is what I would like to say.

In addition, I'd like to remind you that sorority membership is for life. So your chapter doesn't have the best reputation on campus or is considered bottom-tier (tiers are stupid). If you take the time to develop relationships with your sisters as human beings (because most/all of them are probably pretty awesome, if you bother to find out), reputation shouldn't matter. If it still does, so what? You will spend only four years (less) with your chapter out of perhaps 45+ years of membership in your lifetime. Think of all the opportunities you will have to be an involved alumna!

But seriously, put some effort into getting to know your sisters. Yeah, the shininess of trips with fraternities etc. looks nice, but you may be missing out on what could be the best friendships of your life if you don't put in some effort.

Side note, it's early March. Spring semesters generally start in January, so at the most you have been a member of your chapter for 2.5 months, but probably more like two months. You have the rest of the semester: TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

Ok, done ranting.

I had a wonderful experience in my collegiate chapter until we were closed and then I had a wonderful time with my sisters until I finished school. I got married, had kids, and took about 10 years off from everything but our International Reunion Day. I lived all over the country during those 10 years as my husband was in the Air Force. I missed Alpha Gamma Delta. I volunteered at the International Level, we never lived close to a chapter and I still made everlasting friendships. My 4 girls went to college, pledged Alpha Gam, and it could sometimes be hard for the collegians to discern the difference between a mom who happens to be an Alpha Gam and an International Visitor. I took another break. Now, I'm at the point where I'm volunteering again, this time at a local chapter. My main point is that while I loved my collegiate years, my alumnae years have been fruitful and in some ways better.

frangiblefacade 03-14-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2131849)
The last time I said that, people laughed at me.

http://www.onesadpanda.com/wp-conten...a_painting.jpg

LOL I almost died when I saw this.

IndianaSigKap 03-15-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2131849)
The last time I said that, people laughed at me.

http://www.onesadpanda.com/wp-conten...a_painting.jpg

Best part of this thread...I actually laughed out loud.

Cheerio 03-15-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2132105)
Rock fighting, huh? I'm gonna have to hear this story! Scary panda, indeed! Damn you Lily Pulitzer!!!!!:mad:

Speaking of people feeling for their sorority, when Lilly re-spells AOIIs phrase on the fabric, will they also take out the scary panda because its not an official mascot (just going by what I hear)?

AlwaysSAI 03-15-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rockwallgreek (Post 2132121)
I missed Alpha Gamma Delta.

Just wanted to say: "Welcome Sister"!

Make sure you introduce yourself in the Alpha Gam Forum!

AOII Angel 03-15-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheerio (Post 2132373)
Speaking of people feeling for their sorority, when Lilly re-spells AOIIs phrase on the fabric, will they also take out the scary panda because its not an official mascot (just going by what I hear)?

Don't I wish! And make the wheat golden instead of bizarro burgandy, and make the background any color but pink and get rid of the life-saver looking rubies and replace with something that looks like a ruby...:rolleyes: I could go on and on and on. Will someone tell me why I voted for this damn thing?

AXiDTrish 03-15-2012 11:07 PM

So here's another angle I wonder if you thought about. You are a dancer for what sounds like a university team. Have you ever invited your sisters to see a performance? Have you introduced them to who you are and what you love? Sorority women appreciate hard work and dancing at that level tends to take dedication and talent. I'd bet your sisters would like to watch you dance and be proud to know that this talented dancer is their sister. Your dedication to dancing is the same dedication that those girls have to their letters.

In the end it's a 2-way street. If you put the effort in, you will reap the rewards. They may not be instant, but nothing good in life happens instantly. My advice is to try. Try to reach out. Try to meet a sister every 2 days and learn something new about them. Try to show them who you are.

Also, own your letters. Your org is a LOT bigger than your campus. Research your org. The national site, the facebook pages. Find out what your org stand for, ask to see your ceremony book and read the initiation ceremony and decide what it means to you. Whatever you do, don't be rash. Educate yourself (meeting sisters, really learning about your org) and then make a decision about your membership. What you find might surprise you.

onuAXiD17 03-15-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131647)
I get where you're coming from, but I didn't sign up to work super hard to improve our reputation and make us look good on campus. i signed up for a sorority because it seemed like fun; it seemed like somewhere I could meet a lot of people and have a good time. Of course I would love to help out with stuff...but not improving-reputation kind of stuff. I honestly wouldn't even know where to begin with that. I don't think I have the time, energy, brain-power, patience, and skill to pull off something like that...but is that such a crime? There wasn't a "membership contract" that said that.

And anytime I've tried to ask people to go out before, no one seems interested. I never said these girls were horrible people, just that I don't think I fit in with them.

And I don't know what you mean by valuing the opinions of outsiders more than the opinions of friends/ strangers.

If you could elaborate and reply that'd be great, thanks

I was just reading this thread and, even though I haven't made it through all of the post, I had to jump in. I am the COB chair for my sorority and one thing my MVP and I (as long as countless older sisters) tell the girls in our chapter to do is to recruit girls that are better than themselves. Someone saw something in you and realized that they could benefit from you joining the chapter in many ways. Maybe they thought you were funny, had potential as a leader and/or recruiter, or the positive attitude that the chapter needed to help it turn around. If I heard ANY of my sisters, new members or initiated, talk about my chapter like this I would be heart broken.

Like other have said, you have made a life long commitment. Either put the effort in and get to know (and love) your chapter, or drop so they don't spend energy on someone who isn't even fully commited to the chapter. They've already put in effort recruiting you, getting you through your new member period, (I'm assuming) giving you a Big; give them the same chance.

AOII*Azra-elle 05-06-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2132501)
Don't I wish! And make the wheat golden instead of bizarro burgandy, and make the background any color but pink and get rid of the life-saver looking rubies and replace with something that looks like a ruby...:rolleyes: I could go on and on and on. Will someone tell me why I voted for this damn thing?

Hrm. Because we actually had faith that it would look nice.... o_O

AOII Angel 05-07-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII*Azra-elle (Post 2144042)
Hrm. Because we actually had faith that it would look nice.... o_O

And now we feel cheated. :( Maybe I am a sad panda.

33girl 05-07-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AXiDTrish (Post 2132526)
So here's another angle I wonder if you thought about. You are a dancer for what sounds like a university team. Have you ever invited your sisters to see a performance? Have you introduced them to who you are and what you love? Sorority women appreciate hard work and dancing at that level tends to take dedication and talent. I'd bet your sisters would like to watch you dance and be proud to know that this talented dancer is their sister. Your dedication to dancing is the same dedication that those girls have to their letters.

I didn't see this post before, but YES!!! Do this! Most sororities have programming requirements that they need to meet as far as sister socializing events so not only would you be showing them part of what matters to you, you would be helping the VP who is in charge of this stuff out too. If all you ever say is "I can't go to the meeting/mixer/ritual because I have a dance performance" and never invite anyone to the performances, they're just going to get more and more upset that you are blowing sorority activities off.

ThetaPrincess24 05-07-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2144192)
I didn't see this post before, but YES!!! Do this! Most sororities have programming requirements that they need to meet as far as sister socializing events so not only would you be showing them part of what matters to you, you would be helping the VP who is in charge of this stuff out too. If all you ever say is "I can't go to the meeting/mixer/ritual because I have a dance performance" and never invite anyone to the performances, they're just going to get more and more upset that you are blowing sorority activities off.

We had a sister perform a major role in a campus musical. The entire chapter came out to support her for opening night. Not only did the chapter enjoy going and doing something a bit different from a normal sisterhood activity, but it meant the world to that sister that the entire chapter came out in support.

This is a great idea OP, look in to it!

carnation 06-22-2020 02:39 PM

I don't think I ever saw this one. Maybe it'll help someone!

chi-o_cat 06-23-2020 09:44 AM

I wish the OP came back later to update. Did she drop? Did she stay in and find ways to get involved? Or just become one of those members who does the bare minimum and never really gets to know people. Hmm....

FSUZeta 06-23-2020 11:46 AM

yes

tcsparky 06-23-2020 02:31 PM

Not a chapter I worked directly with, but one somewhat nearby did this with the sophomores prior to recruitment. They drew the outline of a person on a piece of paper, and then brainstormed on all of the great qualities that their sisters had. Ince they had created the perfect woman, they then said that was the target that they were going for during Recruitment. They wanted women who were better than the ones they already had, and who had as many of the qualities that they could determine. This focus really caused the quality of women in that chapter to rise over time until they were a superstar, absolutely stellar chapter!


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Originally Posted by onuAXiD17 (Post 2132530)
I was just reading this thread and, even though I haven't made it through all of the post, I had to jump in. I am the COB chair for my sorority and one thing my MVP and I (as long as countless older sisters) tell the girls in our chapter to do is to recruit girls that are better than themselves. Someone saw something in you and realized that they could benefit from you joining the chapter in many ways. Maybe they thought you were funny, had potential as a leader and/or recruiter, or the positive attitude that the chapter needed to help it turn around. If I heard ANY of my sisters, new members or initiated, talk about my chapter like this I would be heart broken.

Like other have said, you have made a life long commitment. Either put the effort in and get to know (and love) your chapter, or drop so they don't spend energy on someone who isn't even fully commited to the chapter. They've already put in effort recruiting you, getting you through your new member period, (I'm assuming) giving you a Big; give them the same chance.



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