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Can I flip this on you and ask you a few questions? -What does meshing mean? Should they exist to please other fraternities and GLOs? -How would you suggest that they "try"? Do you know for sure that they don't? Have the other sororities tried to do any programming with them? -Rudey |
Ah Rudey, this Old Man has seen so much more than Your little time on earth has and maybe ever see!:)
I would love to say something derogatory about you, but you do it your self!:( Oh, I and I might say so well!:D |
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As for recognition that's a little complicated. UofT GLOs are not offically recognized by UofT on an indvidual basis. For example KKG isn't recognized but Pan Hel is. AEPi has some recognition because of Hillel, but only as pertaining to philanthropy events (they do a food and clothing drive). So if they wanted to set up a booth for recruitment, the colleges would say no; but if the wanted to set up a drop-off point for their food/clothing drive then the colleges can decide on a case by case basis (for example I approved as president of Woodsworth 2 years ago). |
Something that I wanted to add to what I said before....as far as I know no GLO on my campus has a problem with a Jew missing Friday night events. However, we are the only ones that have it in our by-laws that we can't hold an event on a Friday night or a Jewish holiday. Yes it makes things tough, but we do that so no one has to miss out on anything.
AXORissa, thanxs for trying to explain the diffrent leavels. I didnt' even want to go there, I think on a basic level yo udid very well |
I am a Jewish girl in a nationally recognized Christian Sorority. In my chapter there are about 15 Jewish members. There has never been an issue with missing an event due to a religious holiday etc. We tend not to schedule events during a holiday etc.. If something does occur we are of course excused. A lot of my sisters who arn't Jewish often come to Hillel for events. Hillel even used our chapter room for an event :D . I have never been in a situation where I've had to choose my religion over my sisters!
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The only problem was that round 1 of rush was Friday night and Saturday, and a couple of our Orthodox sisters refused to participate, leaving us short on sisters at the worst time... |
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And as for AEPhi's affiliation with Hillel, we do have a national affiliation with Hillel (I confirmed this with my Traveling Education Consultant last semester) but as chapter President I have never seen anything done with this affiliation. We have never been specifically told we have to participate in their events or support them by National during the years I have been active. |
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I'm sure I can guess at least two GLO's that do this, and my opinion on them is that the PNM's are better off going where they are wanted. If a GLO dosen't want to respect a persons holidays, who knows what else they might choose not to respect? |
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Round 1 of formal recruitment was held on Shabbat. :mad: That was the only exception that we made to the "no events on holidays" rule, since Panhel dictated the dates. Any Jewish sister could ask to be excused. But my chapter was by far the smallest on campus to begin with, and not having some sisters around during round 1 only emphasized that. :( ETA: Then there was the time that our (Jewish!) director of Greek Life scheduled a mandatory IFC president's meeting ON YOM KIPPUR... (sororities were IFC members at the time) |
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woah... I dont think we ever had anything scheduled on a major holiday, we'd all freak. I'd say on a campus of about 40,000 students, 20% being Jewish... the Greek system had to be about 50%-- "Jersey Japs..." I can say that, being one :P |
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It's our chapter by-laws, not national. THen again, we have 70% Jewiwhs all in diffrent levels. Being as a commuter school, no recruitment events are held Fri-Sundays so there is no problems there :) |
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