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shadokat 06-01-2015 03:04 PM

What about the women who have pledged and joined Tri Delta since 1984, when they were invited to campus? For the past 30 years, women pledged Tri Delta. Now because some girls can't pay dues, they all of a sudden go local? I didn't see one valid reason in the entire article that says why they aren't going to be Tri Delta anymore. Is Tri Delta not going to have a chapter there anymore? Because if I was them, I'd build a new chapter. This is silly...it's beyond silly.

pinksequins 06-01-2015 05:48 PM

Shadokat, the discussion of alumnae status addresses current collegians only. Current TriDelta alumnae of the chapter remain Tri Delta alumnae.

33girl 06-02-2015 08:10 PM

Tri Delta would be wasting a lot of time and resources trying to make a new chapter work there, and it would be disrespectful to make the alumnae divide the loyalties between the national organization and the women they actually know. I don't think they would have made tnis decision without alumnae input and support.

And it's not a matter of girls being unable to pay dues, it's that they don't think the 60% of dues that are going to the national organization are going towards programs or other services that are actually helping them on a daily basis.

g41965 06-03-2015 12:14 AM

Dartmouth Greeks
 
Many fraternities at Dartmouth have gone local, a lot of New England schools tend to have a lot of locals. Very different than other parts of the U.S.

naraht 06-03-2015 09:41 AM

How many times...
 
Has a Dartmouth National gone Local?

thetalady 06-03-2015 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2316966)
Has a Dartmouth National gone Local?

I am only personally aware of the Kappa Alpha Theta chapter going local prior to DDD. Here are the chapters on campus now, from the Dartmouth web site, if anyone wants to research.

Alpha Chi Alpha fraternity
Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority
Alpha Phi sorority
Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity
Alpha Pi Omega sorority
Alpha Theta coeducational fraternity
Alpha Xi Delta sorority
Beta Alpha Omega fraternity
Bones Gate fraternity
Chi Gamma Epsilon fraternity
Chi Heorot fraternity
Delta Delta Delta sorority (separated from national GLO)
Epsilon Kappa Theta sorority
Gamma Delta Chi fraternity
Kappa Delta sorority
Kappa Delta Epsilon sorority
Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority
Kappa Kappa Kappa fraternity
Lambda Upsilon Lambda fraternity
Phi Delta Alpha fraternity
Phi Tau coeducational fraternity
Psi Upsilon fraternity
Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity
Sigma Delta sorority
Sigma Nu fraternity
Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity
The Tabard coeducational fraternity
Theta Delta Chi fraternity
Zeta Psi fraternity

dukedg 06-03-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 2316966)
Has a Dartmouth National gone Local?

I believe DG did too. Here's a link (not sure of how accurate this is): http://www.dartmouth.edu/~orl/greek-...cs/history.pdf

HQWest 06-03-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetalady (Post 2316974)
I am only personally aware of the Kappa Alpha Theta chapter going local prior to DDD. Here are the chapters on campus now, from the Dartmouth web site, if anyone wants to research.

Alpha Chi Alpha fraternity
Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority
Alpha Phi sorority
Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity
Alpha Pi Omega sorority
Alpha Theta coeducational fraternity
Alpha Xi Delta sorority
Beta Alpha Omega fraternity
Bones Gate fraternity
Chi Gamma Epsilon fraternity
Chi Heorot fraternity
Delta Delta Delta sorority (separated from national GLO)
Epsilon Kappa Theta sorority
Gamma Delta Chi fraternity
Kappa Delta sorority
Kappa Delta Epsilon sorority
Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority
Kappa Kappa Kappa fraternity
Lambda Upsilon Lambda fraternity
Phi Delta Alpha fraternity
Phi Tau coeducational fraternity
Psi Upsilon fraternity
Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity
Sigma Delta sorority
Sigma Nu fraternity
Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity
The Tabard coeducational fraternity
Theta Delta Chi fraternity
Zeta Psi fraternity

From a IrishPipes list - a couple of NPC groups have withdrawn from Dartmouth.

Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH
September 21-28, 2015/January 2016
Quota=
Campus Total=120
Quota Last Year=Fall 41?/Spring 12
Registered PNMs=
*******************
Sigma Kappa Zeta Lambda 1977-1986 <-- went local
Kappa Kappa Gamma Epsilon Chi 1978
Alpha Chi Omega Zeta Mu 1980-1990 <-- withdrew
Kappa Alpha Theta Epsilon Kappa 1982-1992 <-- going local
Delta Delta Delta Gamma Gamma 1984-2015 <-- going local
Delta Phi Epsilon Epsilon Alpha 1984-1990 <-- went local and then dissolved
Delta Gamma Zeta Beta 1987-1997 <-- withdrew
Alpha Xi Delta Theta Psi 1998
Alpha Phi Iota Kappa 2006
Kappa Delta Eta Xi 2009

My understanding is that women were not understanding the benefits of a national GLO and what the costs that went to nationals or insurance paid. Someone there told me that it was difficult for NPC groups to compete with local organizations that had very little in the way of oversight.

AXO and DG alum from Dartmouth told me they voted to withdraw? It is possible that a group spun off of these to create the locals as listed on the list DukeDG put up.?

shadokat 06-03-2015 02:19 PM

If ditching your national organization because you don't like what you're paying for is ok for someone, so be it. It isn't with me. As a member of my sorority, I took an oath of sisterhood for a lifetime. It isn't sisterhood in the exact manner in which I want it, when I want it, and what I want to pay for it. Maybe a bit more transparency from the national organization and for the local women could've helped, but I don't think it would. The locals at Dartmouth are cheering and welcoming them with open arms.

It appears that some women don't like the oversight provided by being in a national organization. Kappa Alpha Theta went local Epsilon Kappa Theta in 1992. They have their own recruitment that consists of 2 events, each a 3 hour party where you come and hang out as long as you like. They also celebrate Independence Day from their national. Kappa Delta Epsilon has always been a local sorority, and Sigma Delta is what used to be Sigma Kappa, but they went Sigma Delta because "Sisters and alumnae felt there were irreconcilable differences between the Dartmouth chapter and Sigma Kappa National, specifically religion in rituals and an emphasis on men in National songs and overall attitudes." (per their website).

And looking at the recruitment numbers, the two locals (SD and KDE) who participate in formal recruitment do just as well as the national organizations. So it doesn't appear that there's an issue selling the national experience to women over the local and vice versa. Total remains at 120, and all of the groups are over.

naraht 06-03-2015 02:37 PM

Based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmo..._organizations
Only groups which have left a National at one point are included.

Fraternities
Alpha Delta (Once part of Alpha Delta Phi)
Alpha Chi Alpha (Twice part of Alpha Chi Rho)
Dartmouth Beta (Once part of Beta Theta Pi)
Bones Gate (once part of Delta Tau Delta)
Gamma Delta Chi (from both Alpha Chi Rho and Phi Kappa Sigma)
Sigma Phi Epsilon (Disassociated from Sigma Phi Epsilon and then reaffiliated)
Sigma Nu (Disassociated from Sigma Nu and then reaffiliated)
Phi Delta Alpha (once part of Phi Delta Theta)
Chi Gamma Epsilon (once part of Kappa Sigma)
Chi Heorot (once part of Chi Phi)

Sororities
Epsilon Kappa Theta (once part of Kappa Alpha Theta)
Sigma Delta (once part of Sigma Kappa)

Coeducational
Alpha Theta (once part of Theta Chi)
The Tabard (once part of Sigma Chi)
Phi Tau (once part of Phi Sigma Kappa)

Defunct
Foley House (once part of Delta Upsilon)
Pi Sigma Psi (once part of Delta Phi Epsilon )
Harold Parmington Foundation/Delta Psi Delta (once part of Tau Epsilon Phi)
Zeta Beta Chi (once part of Delta Gamma)
Xi Kappa Chi (once part of Alpha Chi Omega, under consideration for affiliation with Phi Mu)
Phoenix (once part of Phi Gamma Delta)
Panarchy (once was part of Phi Kappa Psi)


Reasons for disaffiliation range widely from unwillingness to exclude negro members to low membership to unwillingness of the National Fraternity to help with loans for fixing the house.

TriDeltaSallie 06-03-2015 02:47 PM

Dartmouth has always been a strange campus anyway when it comes to Greek life. Excessive drinking and hazing, even by college standards. I'm not surprised that chapters there don't want to be "bothered" by belonging to a national organization and needing to abide by their guidelines and expectations.

Xidelt 06-03-2015 03:47 PM

I think another reason for the national to local trend is that the Dartmouth administration is willing to offer significant support to the GLO throughout the process. The article mentioned support helping the new local group with finances and purchasing liability insurance through the university. You wouldn't find this support at most universities. It's as if Dartmouth is offering all of the advantages of a national organization through the school.

Sciencewoman 06-03-2015 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriDeltaSallie (Post 2316982)
Dartmouth has always been a strange campus anyway when it comes to Greek life. Excessive drinking and hazing, even by college standards. I'm not surprised that chapters there don't want to be "bothered" by belonging to a national organization and needing to abide by their guidelines and expectations.

Yes. I also think some national orgs would be concerned that having a chapter there may be more "bother" than it's worth.

sigmagirl2000 06-03-2015 07:34 PM

Anyone else here actually ever been to the Dartmouth campus? It's certainly different, even by my super liberal New England norms (you know, having attended UMass and spending considerable time at Smith, Mount Holyoke, Hampshire college, etc.) This is no surprise to me. Being local and "independent" is the norm over conforming and joining something seen as "corporate" or "conventional". By going local, they are, on this campus essentially being the equivalent of the grocery shopping only "organic, locally grown, farmers' markets, supporting local farmers, etc."


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