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BadSquirrelBeta 03-12-2012 06:18 AM

Reading this I have weighed the pros and cons shared with you throughout this thread and want to encourage you to really give this organization and your fellow sisters a fair shot.

You did accept the bid and went through, I would imagine, a pledging/fraternity education process of some sort. You also made a commitment when you were initiated. Prior to going through initiation you could have de-pledged, but, you didn't. And, now here you find yourself.

During my undergraduate tenure many decades ago now I had the opportunity to learn Greek membership is kind of like marriage, that is if you are true to the ideals of the organization and, equally to your sisters--you take the "for better and for worse" . Give the organization and your sisters a fair shot. They apparently saw something in you.

LAblondeGPhi 03-12-2012 07:37 AM

I encourage the OP to stick it out for a couple of simple reasons:
1) You won't ever be able to join another sorority, so why not give this organization a chance. There's no harm in giving it a shot for a few more months, or at least the first year, because you won't be able to come back once you resign your membership.
2) There are so many benefits to membership after you graduate (that is, if you care to get involved)
3) You won't know what friendships you can make in this organization until you put yourself out there. You can't expect friendships or friends unless you put in some effort to be someone others want to be friends with. Kind of a Catch-22, right?
4 ) Organizations change over time - this group could be significantly different by the time you graduate.

Ok, all of that being said, it sounds like you're someone who went through recruitment on a whim because sorority life seemed fun. You're not going to get a whole lot of sympathy on GC for wanting to drop for the reasons you mentioned, because many of us were members of weaker chapters and worked hard at our friendships and bettering our organizations. Collectively, we've all seen hundreds, if not thousands, of women join chapters, have some misgivings for some reason, stick it out for a couple of months, and go on to LOVE LOVE LOVE their organizations. From experience, we know that the overwhelming majority of women in your situation will go on to have rich, rewarding experience IF they put in the time and effort. Like anything in life, what you get out of it will depend what you put in.

Sorority membership is full of obligations - attending weekly meetings, paying dues, attending philanthropy and service activities, and representing your organization in a classy manner around campus. It sounds like you went through recruitment without fully understanding these things, and I think you would have had misgivings even if you had joined a "top tier" organization, but it may have come later, after the shiny newness of the organization wore away and you were faced with un-fun mandatory stuff.

Take some serious time to consider your membership. Ignore what the reaction you get from others on campus. GET INVOLVED. You will not be friends with everyone in your chapter, but there are sisters you already have who could be your future best friends. I guarantee it. You just haven't met them yet.

DGTess 03-12-2012 07:39 AM

I feel for your sisters.

These are women who chose to have you join them. They invited you to be part of their sisterhood - with all that entails.

I guarantee you your sisters don't feel their sorority is weird or awkward. They believe this is the place they belong. They invited you to join that home with them. Instead of being a sister, you're the long-lost cousin whose family moved to another area and prefers to regard the family as laughable.

Why should they keep you around?

SydneyK 03-12-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131629)
So I rushed this spring semester and got a bid to a sorority I didn't really like... I couldn't go to that many events before initiation because I was busy ... I really didn't connect with the girls and the atmosphere didn't seem welcoming.... this sorority has a reputation for being "weird" and is made fun of... I asked a lot of people for help but none of them ever mentioned the lifetime commitment rule... It's a lot of money to pay for people I don't even care that much for.

How do I deal with this? Should I stay in it or just quit? Is it better to be in greek life than not?

Why did you accept a bid to a sorority you didn't like?
I find it interesting that you were too busy to go to any events prior to initiation.
Did you attempt to connect to any of the women? Were you approachable or did you stand in the corner with your hands stuffed deep into your pockets?
Had you not been aware of this group's reputation prior to accepting the bid?
During your initiation, you didn't notice anything in the language regarding a lifetime commitment? It's odd to me that you'd expect others to point out something like that.
Wow @ seeing your dues as paying for people.

To answer your final question - you should just quit. Seriously.

frangiblefacade 03-12-2012 08:53 AM

To sum up the replies....

If you are willing to try a little bit, both to improve reputation and your relationships with your sisters, stay for a bit to see if you can get things to work out.

Otherwise, just quit. You only get what you put into an org, and if you really aren't willing to do any work, then you're wasting their time being a member.

IrishLake 03-12-2012 09:04 AM

What's the phrase... ?

"If you're not a part of the solution, then you're a part of the problem."


Yeah.... part of me says stick it out since you cant ever be a member of another NPC or NPHC group. The other part of me says do your sisters a favor and get out.

AlphaFrog 03-12-2012 09:12 AM

Do y'all remember the days when anytime a NM/New Initiate came here and asked the "Should I stay or should I go?" question, and we'd almost always gush about how great Greek life is and they should stick it out because it's a lifetime of sisterhood and etc?

I'm glad those days are over.

OP - you're obviously not interested in putting in the work. Chances are that even if you got into the top group on campus, you'd still not feel connected and instead of being weird and unpopular you'd be complaining they were fake and mean.

DZsis&mom 03-12-2012 10:34 AM

To the OP:

I'm going to put this in Dance Company analogy for you.

You audition for a Dance Company (let say before your Freshman year in HS) & you join. You go to the first Competition & you find out your are not a Top Studio, that you are in "one of those filler" studios at the Competition. You hate the looks & are embarrassed to be with your Groups on Stage. Also, you really have no connection to any of your fellow company members (because you just show up for class & leave). You tell your mom you want to switch. She tells you NO, because she has already spent $3000 for all the costumes & made reservation for the whole family for Nationals.

Your mom tells you to work hard & see where it goes. So you show up early for every practice, interact with your group, & take all the extra workshops the studio offers. You also decide to start doing sleepovers & going out for breakfast with your group members. You find out you actually like a lot of them. Your hard work pays off and by the end of the session your Small Group gets Platinum at Nationals.

Some other dancers you know are looking for a studio -- well because now you LOVE your Small Group, you encourage them to audition for your Studio.

Time passes and now you are a Senior in HS & when you go to competitions, your Studio is the TOP Studio. It didn't happen overnight. You worked hard, kept asking other good dancers to join your Company, & kept a positive Attitude.

You were rewarded with High Praises & Top Awards. You grew as a Dancer, a Company Member, & as a Woman.


With all Organizations in Life, you can't just show up for the Fun Stuff. It takes work and commitment from everyone involved to succeed. Change is slow but possible.

I believe you learned a long time ago not to just give up. You need to use those lessons now. Best of luck to you.

AXEling 03-12-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DZsis&mom (Post 2131696)
To the OP:

I'm going to put this in Dance Company analogy for you.

You audition for a Dance Company (let say before your Freshman year in HS) & you join. You go to the first Competition & you find out your are not a Top Studio, that you are in "one of those filler" studios at the Competition. You hate the looks & are embarrassed to be with your Groups on Stage. Also, you really have no connection to any of your fellow company members (because you just show up for class & leave). You tell your mom you want to switch. She tells you NO, because she has already spent $3000 for all the costumes & made reservation for the whole family for Nationals.

Your mom tells you to work hard & see where it goes. So you show up early for every practice, interact with your group, & take all the extra workshops the studio offers. You also decide to start doing sleepovers & going out for breakfast with your group members. You find out you actually like a lot of them. Your hard work pays off and by the end of the session your Small Group gets Platinum at Nationals.

Some other dancers you know are looking for a studio -- well because now you LOVE your Small Group, you encourage them to audition for your Studio.

Time passes and now you are a Senior in HS & when you go to competitions, your Studio is the TOP Studio. It didn't happen overnight. You worked hard, kept asking other good dancers to join your Company, & kept a positive Attitude.

You were rewarded with High Praises & Top Awards. You grew as a Dancer, a Company Member, & as a Woman.


With all Organizations in Life, you can't just show up for the Fun Stuff. It takes work and commitment from everyone involved to succeed. Change is slow but possible.

I believe you learned a long time ago not to just give up. You need to use those lessons now. Best of luck to you.

This. This this this!

Jill1228 03-12-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2131649)
I "signed up" to be in a sorority so I can be pretty and people can revolve around me whose sole purpose is to make me happy. I stand by my original statement. Drop. They're too good for you. And if they are the ugliest, dorkiest heifers who ever wore sorority letters, they're STILL too good for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGTess (Post 2131668)
I feel for your sisters.

These are women who chose to have you join them. They invited you to be part of their sisterhood - with all that entails.

I guarantee you your sisters don't feel their sorority is weird or awkward. They believe this is the place they belong. They invited you to join that home with them. Instead of being a sister, you're the long-lost cousin whose family moved to another area and prefers to regard the family as laughable.

Why should they keep you around?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 2131674)
Why did you accept a bid to a sorority you didn't like?
I find it interesting that you were too busy to go to any events prior to initiation.
Did you attempt to connect to any of the women? Were you approachable or did you stand in the corner with your hands stuffed deep into your pockets?
Had you not been aware of this group's reputation prior to accepting the bid?
During your initiation, you didn't notice anything in the language regarding a lifetime commitment? It's odd to me that you'd expect others to point out something like that.
Wow @ seeing your dues as paying for people.

To answer your final question - you should just quit. Seriously.

To all these replies the only thing I can say is
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...rtiepreach.gif

Y'all are telling it like it is!

And if you think we are http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...2e7ho1_400.gif

You are right


If you feel this badly about your sorority, don't be the one bad apple. You really should drop. Your attitude is not doing you or your sisters any favors

aesovs 03-12-2012 12:32 PM

I was in a similar situation last fall when I accepted my bid. I would really encourage you to stick it out and go to all the events you can and to make every effort to get to know your sisters - this means more than inviting them to go out with you. It's eating lunch or dinner with them, grabbing coffee with them, or just spending time studying or hanging out around the house (if your campus has fraternity and sorority houses, that is). If you aren't willing to make this commitment (or are unable to because of other commitments), then drop. I do not know one single girl who accepted a bid with me at my house or any other who automatically clicked with everyone in their sorority. It takes time and effort, and honestly, if you only joined a sorority because you thought it would allow you to meet hot guys and go to the best parties, you didn't choose Greek life for the right reasons. At least on my campus, you can go to any parties you want to at the fraternities if you're a girl. You don't need letters to do that.

Being in a sorority is like starting a new school - you don't make friends instantly and you may not like everyone you meet. The point is that you have to try and find the girls like you. I promise that there's someone you'll get along with - you just need to try and be around more if you want to find them. Like I said before, though, if you just don't have enough time for it you should drop. There's no point in being in a sorority if you're not going to go to the functions or get to know your sisters.

Basically, I know how you feel right now. I'm in what most people would call a "lower tier" sorority on my campus (although I hate ranking), but I made an effort and I've really come to love it. Like everyone else has said, you can either make the effort or you can drop. I'm sorry that no one told you that you can't ever join another org, but it is what it is, so you should make the best of it if you really think Greek life's for you.

sb55 03-12-2012 01:20 PM

Thanks to everyone who responded! You were really helpful.

To everyone who said I was lazy and just wanted the world to revolve around me without putting any work in, I wish you would've read that I said "I'm not sure I have the time/skills/effort to do that. I wouldn't be sure where to begin."
It wasn't me saying I wasn't willing to put in the effort, it was me saying I was unsure I was fit for the job.

Please read posts fully before responding, this was all pretty hateful...

sb55 03-12-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aesovs (Post 2131712)
I was in a similar situation last fall when I accepted my bid. I would really encourage you to stick it out and go to all the events you can and to make every effort to get to know your sisters - this means more than inviting them to go out with you. It's eating lunch or dinner with them, grabbing coffee with them, or just spending time studying or hanging out around the house (if your campus has fraternity and sorority houses, that is). If you aren't willing to make this commitment (or are unable to because of other commitments), then drop. I do not know one single girl who accepted a bid with me at my house or any other who automatically clicked with everyone in their sorority. It takes time and effort, and honestly, if you only joined a sorority because you thought it would allow you to meet hot guys and go to the best parties, you didn't choose Greek life for the right reasons. At least on my campus, you can go to any parties you want to at the fraternities if you're a girl. You don't need letters to do that.

Being in a sorority is like starting a new school - you don't make friends instantly and you may not like everyone you meet. The point is that you have to try and find the girls like you. I promise that there's someone you'll get along with - you just need to try and be around more if you want to find them. Like I said before, though, if you just don't have enough time for it you should drop. There's no point in being in a sorority if you're not going to go to the functions or get to know your sisters.

Basically, I know how you feel right now. I'm in what most people would call a "lower tier" sorority on my campus (although I hate ranking), but I made an effort and I've really come to love it. Like everyone else has said, you can either make the effort or you can drop. I'm sorry that no one told you that you can't ever join another org, but it is what it is, so you should make the best of it if you really think Greek life's for you.

Hey just wanted to say thanks, this was so helpful! And I didn't join to meet guys and party, I really wanted to make good friends and meet new people.

I knew it wouldn't happen right off the bat but the atmosphere was almost unfriendly, which threw me off.

And yeah, I'll try to quit something or other so I can make more time to get to know people. Thanks!

AlphaFrog 03-12-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131718)
Thanks to everyone who responded! You were really helpful.

To everyone who said I was lazy and just wanted the world to revolve around me without putting any work in, I wish you would've read that I said "I'm not sure I have the time/skills/effort to do that. I wouldn't be sure where to begin."
It wasn't me saying I wasn't willing to put in the effort, it was me saying I was unsure I was fit for the job.

Please read posts fully before responding, this was all pretty hateful...

What part of not having the time/effort is NOT lazy? If it was important to you, you would MAKE time. As for skills...that's a cop-out. Everyone has got something they could contribute skills-wise, unless you're a brainless blob. Addressing COB invites, hanging event flyers, and those sorts of things don't require any particular skills that a college student (or first grader) wouldn't have.

ASTalumna06 03-12-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131647)
I get where you're coming from, but I didn't sign up to work super hard to improve our reputation and make us look good on campus. i signed up for a sorority because it seemed like fun; it seemed like somewhere I could meet a lot of people and have a good time. Of course I would love to help out with stuff...but not improving-reputation kind of stuff. I honestly wouldn't even know where to begin with that. I don't think I have the time, energy, brain-power, patience, and skill to pull off something like that...but is that such a crime? There wasn't a "membership contract" that said that.

Honey, I hate to break this to you, but there are a lot of things that go along with joining a sorority that you won't find in any membership contract. You won't find advice about consoling a sister whose parent just died, you won't find tips on how to deal emotionally with low recruitment numbers, you won't find ways to deal with a sister who slept with your ex-boyfriend, and you won't find information about the possibility of your chapter closing.

Unexpected problems occur ALL THE TIME. Some of them are small, some of them are huge.. And many times, there are no set of instructions as to how to deal with each one of those issues. These are life experiences that you have to work through. Sorry.. But with sorority membership comes WORK - it's not all fun and games.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb55 (Post 2131652)
Ouch, woman.

You're the one who said I should help improve their reputation and I replied that I wasn't sure I had the skills/ability to do that...so really, calm down.

You don't have the skills or ability to fix things, but you haven't even tried. That's a good way to go through life......

Tell your future boss that when a problem arises at work
Tell your future husband that when times get rough
Tell your future kids that when they start crying

I'm sure they'll all understand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_Row (Post 2131660)
Good luck with not working hard in your future ventures too.

Exactly.


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