I think there's something buggy going on today - I've been noticing a lot of double posts.

Thank you! You've finally said what many of us are thinking! This made me laugh out loud too (even though it was embarassing when the person next to me gave me a funny look when I did it).

I (obviously) agree with all of you. And, the 94% would be even more impressive if we looked at the percentage of girls who received bids after they went to pref night and maximized their options. Than number would be 100%

I guess it just bugs me because it seems like all of campus gets an board. No one ever asks about fraternity bid percentages. I know at least 1 house where over 100 guys come, 70 "Shake out" saying frat X is their first choice, and the brotherhood only gives like 30 bids. At least in the Panhellenic system, those other 70 guys would be given a chance for a bid at another fraternity.

The sad thing is that there are sorority women on the opinion staff who would have contributed to that article. It seems we've become a scapegoat.

It does worry me that our acceptance rate has decline over the years. Part of the reason we went through expansion was to ameliorate this problem, but instead the numbers continued to fall.

DGTITY???? :D

It kills me how at the big southern schools, you can hear things like "3000 girls started rush and only 750 got bids!!" bandied about like it's a badge of honor, and here the exact opposite - every single girl who thought about rush didn't get a bid, so Panhel and its system should be burned on a pyre.

Not to mention that they should have figured that numbers would go down, as many of the women who would go through rush already are in the colony. Doesn't that usually happen everywhere?

DP - is the Dartmouth Review still in existence? Aren't they a little more intelligent about this sort of thing?

Do the locals try to hit quota/total as well or do they not really give a shit if they don't hit it?

I was wondering where she was. She'll be all over this one.

DGTess would be my guess.

Hahahahaha...Oh wow....I love reading your posts (aside from the bright color that hurts my eyes but at least it distinguishes what posts are yours) because you always say what you are thinking. I didn't realize tha DGTess felt that way but I guess that shows how little I really pay attention to that stuff.

I think quota and formal recruitment is important because if we didn't have it-it would take away the whole "selectivity" of the system. I don't believe in a caste system where we should feel superior to other orgs because I believe in Greek unity but I think it is good to be selective. Think about it-we are selective about who we choose to spend our time with (friends) so why do people have an issue when we choose to be the same way in regards to Greek life?

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I guess it just bugs me because it seems like all of campus gets an board. No one ever asks about fraternity bid percentages. I know at least 1 house where over 100 guys come, 70 "Shake out" saying frat X is their first choice, and the brotherhood only gives like 30 bids. At least in the Panhellenic system, those other 70 guys would be given a chance for a bid at another fraternity.
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A few days ago the campus paper did publish semi-complete numbers for fraternity rush / recruitment:

http://thedartmouth.com/2009/10/13/news/rush

But what DartmouthPanhel said seems to ring true -- the paper complains like crazy about Panhellenic recrutiment, but not fraternity recruitment.

And the article you linked just says how many each house took. It doesn't say "200 men dropped out of the recruitment process because it was so horrible" or "only 65% of men went through rush got bids".

The Dartmouth Review does exist, but it's hard to tell what their point of view will be. They are pro-Greek, but also pro -"times of the good old boys". So they might jump on the "sorority rush should be just like fraternity rush" bandwagon.

Wasn't she the one that supported that chick who blogged about Sorority Recruitment (or something about sorority recruitment) like a year or so ago? Like she was the only one who actually left comments on the blog and added more to the already inane posts that person made?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

AMEN!

haha. It's the SAME lame people who don't know anything about the system who write these stupid opinion articles every year. They evidently also need to take a course in proper math because they didn't even subtract out the women who left the process on their own.

It cracks me up how pissed off this person is that they didn't 'fix the system' like it's something they could just do on their own as if they didn't belong to an umbrella organization that made all the rules.

There are several parts of that article that are, IMO, just bad writing! The part that says "“in good faith” — whatever that means —" was just stupid. Terribly rude and opinionated.

Quality journalism. Other than sounding unprofessional, if you don't know what it means, you need to ask so you can put it in the article. It's obviously written by someone who didn't get what she wanted during recruitment. Boo hoo.