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DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowsandtoes1000 (Post 1650117)
Oh and as for gays in fraternities, there are a couple in the small fraternities here but most fraternities would ball them in a heartbeat if they came out. To be honest I don't think a lot of gays are interested in Greek life. And if they are, the situation's not likely to change any time soon...we're fairly traditional.
Thanks, nittanyalum and quoting in its entirety for posterity. You are that which you despise?

nittanyalum 05-12-2008 09:45 PM
^^^Exactly what I was thinking. :D

nate2512 05-12-2008 09:45 PM
Why are people on this board so against tradition, if something isn't broken don't fix it.

nittanyalum 05-12-2008 09:50 PM
Not trying to fix anything, just pointing out that some here doth protest too much. As has been pointed out many, many times on numerous threads, those that are truly "all that" don't need to wear a big neon sign that says "hey, know what? I'm all that!" Truths are self-evident, they don't need to be shoved down your throat.

DSTRen13 05-12-2008 09:50 PM
Personally, I love history and traditions. I find that things work best when you learn from the past by keeping, strengthening, and improving on those traditions which have been shown to work best, and culling those traditions which have had negative results and impacts to then replace them with new practices. Something simply being traditional doesn't make it good or bad, it just means it has a history.

DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowsandtoes1000 (Post 1650220)
I'm just calling it like I see it, and I can't see but maybe 2 fraternities out of 23 bidding an openly gay rushee, and maybe 3 letting him stay active if he came out after initiation. If you're gay and for whatever reason you feel like you really can't help it, sorry, that's the way it is.
Don't sweat it. Just keep balling those openly gay rushees as soon as they cum out.

DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1650223)
Truths are self-evident, they don't need to be shoved down your throat.
We hold these truths to be self evident? :)

And of course those who ball shall also shove down throats. Their traditions and elitism, that is.

nittanyalum 05-12-2008 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1650227)
Don't sweat it. Just keep balling those openly gay rushees as soon as they cum out.
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1650231)
And of course those who ball shall also shove down throats. Their traditions and elitism, that is.
More awesomeness.

DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1650217)
Why are people on this board so against tradition, if something isn't broken don't fix it.
Traditions are great.

But what's unbroken to you can be very broken to someone else. That doesn't mean that tradition has to change but that we need to be critical of what things are used to continue traditions. Despite what this society has claimed for decades, discrimination is not an honorable part of tradition.

DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1650235)
If you can make "balling" into a gay joke, I'm sure you'd have no problem if I turned "blackballing" into a racist joke, right?
Not a gay joke but rather finding humor in word usage by those who protest about homosexuality.

Blackballing would be the correct term but if you must try hard to make a race (not racist, duh) joke, are you about to discuss NBA players? :)

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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1650235)
Maybe sometimes you groups who love to take offense to things ought to consider how you would react if someone said something exactly like your own comments back to you. Cause I'd bet that you'd flip sh*t.
Yeah I'm really torn up and outraged at what you tried to do here. Good job.

nittanyalum 05-12-2008 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1650235)
If you can make "balling" into a gay joke, I'm sure you'd have no problem if I turned "blackballing" into a racist joke, right?
Well you can try, but I'm sure it won't be as funny.

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Maybe sometimes you groups who love to take offense to things ought to consider how you would react if someone said something exactly like your own comments back to you. Cause I'd bet that you'd flip sh*t.
Oh, you'd lose that bet. And I tell you what, the first time I actively use the word "ball" when I'm trying to sound superior to gays or "blackball" in any context in a post, please feel free to go to town with the chuckles...

DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1650244)
Oh, you'd lose that bet. And I tell you what, the first time I actively use the word "ball" when I'm trying to sound superior to gays or "blackball" in any context in a post, please feel free to go to town with the chuckles...
It's funny like one of my platonic male friends who despises homosexual men but loves lesbians. Anyway, he's quick to say things like "only gay men touch each other like that" or "only gay dudes take photos standing so close together."

But when I see him playing sports, he's smacking dudes' asses. LOL. And when I see him hanging with his fraternity brothers, they are interestingly close. I call him out for his situational masculinity all the time. Jokes for daaaaaays.

Senusret I 05-12-2008 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1650248)
It's funny like one of my platonic male friends who despises homosexual men but loves lesbians. Anyway, he's quick to say things like "only gay men touch each other like that" or "only gay dudes take photos standing so close together."

But when I see him playing sports, he's smacking dudes' asses. LOL. And when I see him hanging with his fraternity brothers, they are interestingly close. I call him out for his situational masculinity all the time. Jokes for daaaaaays.
Does his fraternity rhyme with Shlomega Sli Phi?

Senusret I 05-12-2008 10:20 PM
Communal showers are gay. Who does that in 2008?

Gay and poor.

DSTCHAOS 05-12-2008 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1650259)
Well, our house is similar, a gay kid who comes through rush is going to get walked right back out the door and told to stop wasting his time at our house and go somewhere where he'll fit in.

And if a brother came out of the closet, I would be willing to bet he wouldn't stay active long. Why would I want to be in an organization with people that I'm not comfortable being around? We've got communal showers and I wouldn't be comfortable showering with the gay kid, and honestly I would just rather be around straight guys in general, I've got more in common with them. So I have no qualms in saying that my house wouldn't accept a gay pledge/brother.
I completely understand this line of reasoning.

So would you be heartbroken if you found out that a brother you showered with (do you shower with?) came out of the closet after a year or two of seeing your naked buns?

And for the record, while it's difficult to wrap your mind around showering around someone who is interested in men, many gay men are just not that into you. :)


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