A double standard at Nebraska

[hoosier]

(I've sent this letter to a bunch of people at the Univ. of Nebraska, questioning their tolerance of hazing among athletes, and their quick action against the DU chapter. I wonder what response I'll get?)


TO: Harvey Perlman, University of Nebraska Chancellor
Jim Griesen, UofN Vice Chancellor of Student Affairs
Daily Nebraskan
University of Nebraska police dept.
Lincoln Journal Star

FROM: Hoosier

In this week's Husker Connection (huskerconnection.com), there is a report on several freshman football players with strange haircuts, due to hazing:

"One other thing teams do or such seems to be the case is that true freshmen often see the rather unflattering parts of being just that. Though "hazing" is openly discouraged, the belief is, is that at some level, it still happens from time to time.

"Nebraska is no different.

"With that in mind, certain freshmen were sporting new and interesting hair-cuts, Brett Byford and Ryan Schuler just to name a couple, the kind of hair-cuts no beautician would ever take credit or in this case, responsibility for. Nobody is saying anything, but you can imagine that their new "styles" weren’t exactly voluntary. "It’s a situation where I am being fed that, that’s the haircut they wanted." Solich stated. "But, I’m not so sure that, that was the case."

"We do address the team about hazing, because that’s something you never want to get started. As small as something seems, it generally starts to expand from there and then you got yourself a lot of problems, so another learning situation for us."

Boys will be boys, of course, and these boys are Nebraska football players.

In contrast, in early March Delta Upsilon fraternity was accused of hazing, based on an emailed photograph, although there were no pledges in the picture. As reported in the Lincoln Journal Star:

"Monday, Mar. 4, 2002
UNL: Delta Upsilon to be spanked for alcohol violations
BY MARTHA STODDARD Lincoln Journal Star

"The photograph e-mailed to the University of Nebraska-Lincoln Office of Greek Affairs late Tuesday afternoon revealed more than the bare bottoms of two Delta Upsilon fraternity members.

"It also showed a clear violation of university alcohol policy and a possible violation of rules against hazing and physical abuse, said Jim Griesen, vice chancellor for student affairs.

"The photograph depicts nine young men in the corner of a large room, several holding beer cans. Two of the men are bent over, with their pants lowered to display dark red marks on their bare buttocks. A third man crouches between them, holding a wooden paddle with the Greek letters delta and upsilon.

"Griesen said preliminary investigations confirmed that the photo was real and was taken in the basement of the Delta Upsilon house, 1548 Vine St."

The men of Delta Upsilon were quickly on their way to a discipline hearing, and the chapter's national organization quickly suspended the chapter.

I wonder if there is a double standard on campus - hazing is allowed among football players, but hazing is not allowed in a fraternity house.

What would the University do to a fraternity which gave strange haircuts to the pledges?

Is hazing allowed on the football team at Nebraska? Does the coach really believe "that’s the haircut they wanted."

Is there a double standard?

[Pi Kapp 142]

I think it is a good idea to write that letter, but I think that the response is goingto be lesser, because the public humiliation that the football players suffered is less harmful in the long run than the possible physical abuse that the DU pledges suffered.

[Tom Earp]

HOOSIER your Daddy! U are much to much!

I truely Hope you did send this to the pencil neck Academians!

I know we have some Huskers on GC and would like to get some insight from them!

Is there a Double Standard, Da Hell Yes! Greeks take the heat as the highest profile!

Was saving a post Number, and figured this would be a good time!

[kddani]

Hopefully Steve Pederson, the AD will straighten that isht out. To my knowledge, we didn't have any of those sorts of problems at Pitt (note to those who don't know: Steve Pederson had been the asst. AD at Nebraska, then became AD at Pitt, and left this year to be the AD at Nebraska).

[Betarulz!]

As a Husker and a Greek, I certainly hope that there will be some repurcussions. However comparing haircuts to teh open welts and liasons on the buttocks of those DU's is not the same. The punishments should not be the same by any means, b/c the difference in action is substantial.

[Tom Earp]

Hi-Jack for a sec!

BetaRulz, Kitso is coming your way soon! I am going to try to meet him on way back fro Omaha, might see if you can hook up with him while he is there!

He sat and has gotten drinking time with Lifesaver, one of My Bros in Texass!

We dont get much nearness like this!

Return to normal thread!

[AGDLynn]

28-311.06
Hazing, defined; penalty.


(1) For purposes of this section and
section 28-311.07:
(a) Hazing shall mean any activity by which a person
intentionally or recklessly endangers the physical or mental
health or safety of an individual for the purpose of initiation
into, admission into, affiliation with, or continued membership
with any organization as defined in subdivision (1)(b) of this
section. Such hazing activity shall include whipping, beating,
branding, forced and prolonged calisthenics, prolonged exposure
to the elements, forced consumption of any food, liquor,
beverage, drug, or harmful substance not generally intended for
human consumption, prolonged sleep deprivation, or any brutal
treatment or the performance of any unlawful act which endangers
the physical or mental health or safety of any person; and
(b) Organization shall mean an organization of student
members operating under the sanction of a postsecondary
educational institution but shall not include the alumni
organization or any corporation which owns the house or real
estate of such organization.
(2) It shall be unlawful to commit the offense of
hazing. Any person who commits the offense of hazing shall be
guilty of a Class II misdemeanor.
(3) Any organization as defined in subdivision (1)(b)
of this section whose members commit the offense of hazing in
violation of the provisions of this section shall be punished by
a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars.

[kddani]

Originally posted by AGDLynn
28-311.06
Hazing, defined; penalty.


(1) For purposes of this section and
section 28-311.07:
(a) Hazing shall mean any activity by which a person
intentionally or recklessly endangers the physical or mental
health or safety of an individual for the purpose of initiation
into, admission into, affiliation with, or continued membership
with any organization as defined in subdivision (1)(b) of this
section. Such hazing activity shall include whipping, beating,
branding, forced and prolonged calisthenics, prolonged exposure
to the elements, forced consumption of any food, liquor,
beverage, drug, or harmful substance not generally intended for
human consumption, prolonged sleep deprivation, or any brutal
treatment or the performance of any unlawful act which endangers
the physical or mental health or safety of any person; and
(b) Organization shall mean an organization of student
members operating under the sanction of a postsecondary
educational institution but shall not include the alumni
organization or any corporation which owns the house or real
estate of such organization.
(2) It shall be unlawful to commit the offense of
hazing. Any person who commits the offense of hazing shall be
guilty of a Class II misdemeanor.
(3) Any organization as defined in subdivision (1)(b)
of this section whose members commit the offense of hazing in
violation of the provisions of this section shall be punished by
a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars.

Woohoo. Go you! i was too lazy to go on Lexis to look it up.

[Kevlar281]

Fraternity members holding beer cans is an alcohol violation?

[Pi Kapp 142]

Fraternity members holding beer cans is an alcohol violation?

I really do not think it is the beer cans, as much as it is the apperance that this members were paddled. The alcohol violations are just icing on the cake when one is is goingot bust a group.

[chopper816]

is it just me? i dont think stange hair cuts are that big of deal, nothing id punish, but thats the way i see it

[Kevin]

For Ryan Schuler it's got to be karma. Switched his oral committment from OU to Nebraska at the last minute

[AGDLynn]

Danielle, I work for a law enforcement agency and have to deal with students who are arrested and years later are trying to get good jobs, but can't because of their arrest record.....

Save us all and don't do something that would cause you to get arrested....duh!!

[Betarulz!]

Originally posted by Kevlar281
Fraternity members holding beer cans is an alcohol violation?

Yes, Nebraska has a strict dry campus policy that applies to all University approved housing (which includes Fraternity houses) as well as all public areas at the University. It is possible to get alcohol served on campus for large events but you have to get a permit and submit a guest list, plus provide documentation that more than half of the guests will be over teh age of 21.

so the fact that they had picture evidence of beer cans in their house meant they also had to deal with the alcohol violation in addition to hazing.

[madmax]

Originally posted by hoosier


Is hazing allowed on the football team at Nebraska? Does the coach really believe "that’s the haircut they wanted."

Is there a double standard?

Do you even have to ask the question? Tom Osborne used to bail Lawernce Philips out of jail every Saturday and team captain Christian Peter was a rapist.

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/1997/co...y/works/4.html