Copy Cats??

aggieadpi_01 · #1 09-24-2009, 10:08 PM

Ok, so I was looking at the UT-EL Paso website tonight and clicked on the link for a local chapter there called "New Delta" Their motto is, "We live for each other," their colors are blue and white, their mascot is a lion, and their flower is a purple iris. Yeah, I know it's not a violet, but in light of the other "coincidendes" I was just wondering.

Are these ladies trying to affiliate with ADPi? Or have they just totally copied some of our symbols and mottos? Maybe I am reading too much into this, and I just need to take my butt to bed.

L&L

http://studentaffairs.utep.edu/Default.aspx?tabid=55181

twinkle555 · #2 09-24-2009, 10:27 PM

Why is it "New" delta instead of Nu...that is what I am wondering!

ETA: It also has an 'A' and a Delta in their crest beneath the lion...but then again it also has a lamp (DZ's symbol) and a fleur di lis (KKGs)..

ASUADPi · #3 09-24-2009, 11:37 PM

Um yeah, can another sorority copy our motto, colors and mascot? I'm sure they aren't trademarked with us but it does seem pretty tacky.

Another question, can we (ADPi) do anything about it? I mean for me personally, I don't like the thought of another sorority taking our motto, mascot and colors. Quite honestly it's the motto thing that is kind of "ticking me off". That is just low to steal another sororities motto.

aggieadpi_01 · #4 09-25-2009, 11:31 AM

Twinkle, I just noticed the A and the Delta in their crest.

And ASUADPi, I agree with you on the tacky comment. I know that certain organizations share symbols and colors sometimes, but I don't see many groups "borrowing" so much from existing groups. Phi Mu and ADPi share the lion as a mascot, but besides being founded at the same school, that is where the similarities end. Blue and white is used by several sororities as we know, but I don't see KKG and ADPi sharing more than that (panhellenic values aside of course!).

Ok, I am going to get off my soapbox now. I am actually thinking about emailing nationals and seeing what they say. This is just not setting right with me, and I don't find it kosher at all.

MysticCat · #5 09-25-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aggieadpi_01

Blue and white is used by several sororities as we know, but I don't see KKG and ADPi sharing more than that (panhellenic values aside of course!).

Pardon the crash, and I stand to be corrected, but I think ADPi is the only NPC org that has blue and white as official colors. Kappa's colors are dark blue and light blue.

aggieadpi_01 · #6 09-25-2009, 12:04 PM

I'm sorry! Thanks for clearing that up MysticCat.

Dang, I am ate up with it today apparently. And just to clarify, I was just using blue and white in general terms. Technically our colurs are azure blue and white. Ok, this day needs to end so I can go home and go to bed. My brain is officially not working today... as we can all see. TGIF!

ASUADPi · #7 09-25-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aggieadpi_01

Twinkle, I just noticed the A and the Delta in their crest.

And ASUADPi, I agree with you on the tacky comment. I know that certain organizations share symbols and colors sometimes, but I don't see many groups "borrowing" so much from existing groups. Phi Mu and ADPi share the lion as a mascot, but besides being founded at the same school, that is where the similarities end. Blue and white is used by several sororities as we know, but I don't see KKG and ADPi sharing more than that (panhellenic values aside of course!).

Ok, I am going to get off my soapbox now. I am actually thinking about emailing nationals and seeing what they say. This is just not setting right with me, and I don't find it kosher at all.

I called. I left a message with the pertinent info. I just figured, hey let EO know. They can do with it what they want, at least as a sister I've expressed my concern.

I just don't know. I don't feel it's right to take another sororities motto, whether you were hoping to affiliate with ADPi or not, change your motto. We value our motto and other sorority members have said how much they like our motto, I don't like reading that a local is stealing it. Does that sound weird.

I kind of feel like I'm being overprotective of our motto. But ADPi means everything to me and I don't like what New Delta is doing.

Maybe its just me and maybe I'm just being weird.

aggieadpi_01 · #8 09-25-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi

I called. I left a message with the pertinent info. I just figured, hey let EO know. They can do with it what they want, at least as a sister I've expressed my concern.

I just don't know. I don't feel it's right to take another sororities motto, whether you were hoping to affiliate with ADPi or not, change your motto. We value our motto and other sorority members have said how much they like our motto, I don't like reading that a local is stealing it. Does that sound weird.

I kind of feel like I'm being overprotective of our motto. But ADPi means everything to me and I don't like what New Delta is doing.

Maybe its just me and maybe I'm just being weird.

Ok, you can officially add me to the being weird list.

I emailed them the information, and I will call them later too. Just like you said, all I can do is express my concern and let EO do with it is as they will.

VAgirl18 · #9 09-25-2009, 01:17 PM

Called EO -- was directed to Linda Ablard's voicemail. Was told that she's great about returning phone calls. I can't wait to talk to her. I'm all for local sororities, but when they use our motto, colors, and blatantly "borrowed" our mascot .... it just gets me riled up.

aggieadpi_01 · #10 09-25-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18

Called EO -- was directed to Linda Ablard's voicemail. Was told that she's great about returning phone calls. I can't wait to talk to her. I'm all for local sororities, but when they use our motto, colors, and blatantly "borrowed" our mascot .... it just gets me riled up.

Wonderful! That is good to hear, because she is who I emailed. Thanks to all of you ladies who have contacted EO.

VAgirl18 · #11 09-25-2009, 02:40 PM

I did some sleuthing and found their MySpace page. There are pictures of them doing a modified version of our diamond symbol:
One of the pictures

This is the kicker -- you know they're copying us because:

THEY ORIGINIALLY CALLED THEMSELVES THE ADELPHEAN SOCIETY:
Pic 1
Pic 2

Yes, its been said that imitation is the biggest form of flattery, but this is down right ridiculous.

aggieadpi_01 · #12 09-25-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18

I did some sleuthing and found their MySpace page. There are pictures of them doing a modified version of our diamond symbol:
One of the pictures

This is the kicker -- you know they're copying us because:

THEY ORIGINIALLY CALLED THEMSELVES THE ADELPHEAN SOCIETY:
Pic 1
Pic 2

Yes, its been said that imitation is the biggest form of flattery, but this is down right ridiculous.

What!!!??

Ok, that officially pisses me off.

VAgirl, thanks for sending that info to me. Unfortunately my school district's server will not let me view these pics from work, but you can be dang sure I will be looking at them when I get home tonight!

I need to write another email and add that information to it, and I will definitly be calling as soon as my kids leave class this afternoon! I wish I had stumbled upon UTEP's site sooner, apparently they have been doing this since 2007.

ComradesTrue · #13 09-25-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAgirl18

I did some sleuthing and found their MySpace page. There are pictures of them doing a modified version of our diamond symbol:
One of the pictures

This is the kicker -- you know they're copying us because:

THEY ORIGINIALLY CALLED THEMSELVES THE ADELPHEAN SOCIETY:
Pic 1
Pic 2

Yes, its been said that imitation is the biggest form of flattery, but this is down right ridiculous.

Please pardon your forum crash.

I can certainly understand the frustration that everyone is feeling regarding this local sorority. There certainly is enough similar aspects to raise eyebrows.

However, I *think* that the photo of the handsigns is merely them making a Delta sign. I could be wrong. However, most of the girls seem to be attempting to make a triangle. This would fit, given their name.

The rest of the symbols and their original name? It would seem that it could be more than coincidence.

VAgirl18 · #14 09-25-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93

Please pardon your forum crash.

I can certainly understand the frustration that everyone is feeling regarding this local sorority. There certainly is enough similar aspects to raise eyebrows.

However, I *think* that the photo of the handsigns is merely them making a Delta sign. I could be wrong. However, most of the girls seem to be attempting to make a triangle. This would fit, given their name.

The rest of the symbols and their original name? It would seem that it could be more than coincidence.

Regardless of whether its a modification of our symbol or not, I'm still unimpressed and irate at the lack of originality.

lalalucy · #15 09-25-2009, 03:56 PM

Sorry for the crash but I actually go to UTEP and I happen to know about "new" delta.
First off they are called "new" delta because they can't have official greek letters yet (or they don't know they're alphabet)
The lamp isn't a rip off from DZ its actually taken from a fraternity their founders were sweethearts for.
I really don't think they are trying to affiliate themselves with Adpi, I tink they're just trying to fit in as actually being greek, but they still don't have real letters. just saying...