Dissing other Greeks in step shows. Good 4 greek life or bad?

Kalm07 · #1 02-01-2006, 02:38 PM

I think its all fun and games and should not be taken to heart. I have love for my organization as I would think others do for theirs. So if you have love for your group, it should not get to you what someone else puts in their show. Does it?

marquise1911 · #2 02-01-2006, 03:43 PM

I think some things shouldn't be done. I know on my yard where tension between the frats is high we stick to some rules. We don't diss each others sacred things. Once the alphas dissed the Ques to Atomic dog. After the hail of beer bottles and trash cans stopped flying people (or should I say alphas) were hurt and pissed. So just don't go too far.

Cain · #3 02-02-2006, 02:43 PM

This is a very interesting topic. At my homekoming step-show, we did a diss. The Alphas had just crossed a line, and some people on the campus questioned their sexuality. Just in pure fun, but we did a "Trapped in the CLoset" segment about the Alphas. To get to the point, on the part of the song where R.Kelly says, "I open the door, and I'll be got da#n it's man!" part, we had two bros dressed in Black and Gold come out of a makeshift closet and started booty dancing, and doing the Alpha train in a VEEEERY feminine way. When we pulled this stunt, the whole crowd was in shock. It was like one of those "No they didn't" silences. To this day, there is tension between us for that. So to the greek community, would that be considered as overboard?

AKA2D '91 · #4 02-02-2006, 03:05 PM

Okay, see I AM old!

Ideal08 · #5 02-02-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91

Okay, see I AM old!

Told you!

CrimsonTide4 · #6 02-02-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Cain
This is a very interesting topic. At my homekoming step-show, we did a diss. The Alphas had just crossed a line, and some people on the campus questioned their sexuality. Just in pure fun, but we did a "Trapped in the CLoset" segment about the Alphas. To get to the point, on the part of the song where R.Kelly says, "I open the door, and I'll be got da#n it's man!" part, we had two bros dressed in Black and Gold come out of a makeshift closet and started booty dancing, and doing the Alpha train in a VEEEERY feminine way. When we pulled this stunt, the whole crowd was in shock. It was like one of those "No they didn't" silences. To this day, there is tension between us for that. So to the greek community, would that be considered as overboard?

OH MY DAMN!!!

Overboard ain't hardly the word.

I am curious as to why you all spent that much energy dissing the Alphas instead of uplifting your own org.

How would you have felt if the Alphas spent 15 minutes of their routine doing nothing but dropping canes?

jubilance1922 · #7 02-02-2006, 05:42 PM

When I moved to Atlanta, I saw something that I had never seen before: fraternities dissing sororities. At my undergrad, the frats may make jokes about the the other frats, and the sororities may do the same, but I'd never seen this cross-gender dissing before. It started when a certain fraternity had a probate show, invited all the sororities, and then preceeding to tell the sororities to "suck they d*ck", and some other unmentionable things. Since then a sorority proceeded to have a coming out show that most of the time dissing that same frat, and then this year that frat dissed the sorority again.

I think its childish and petty, especially between fraternities and sororities. And at the end of the day, it makes the whole D9 look bad, especially on this campus because a lot of non-greeks don't respect them anyway (which is a topic for a whole other thread).

Cain · #8 02-02-2006, 05:53 PM

The jury is still split on whether it was overboard or not. I respect your opinion CrimsonTide4, but if you would have seen it, you would've laughed too. It's alot of backstory as to why this happened though. I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with friendly competition. It's all fair, as long as you can shake hands afterward, and chill together with a fellow greek. Maybe they shouldn't be so sensitive...............

K.O.T.S · #9 02-02-2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

How would you have felt if the Alphas spent 15 minutes of their routine doing nothing but dropping canes?

seen that too many times in diss struts and probate shows along with a messed up shimmy.
OVER.......DONE!!!
ironically the one that dropped the cane wanted to be a NUPE. anyway, it depends on the context. I have seen Kappa disses that I even laughed at and I have seen some that took a lot not to get involved in something "ignant".
either way, often it comes off as a group of non-creative, obsessed, and insecure people when the disses are done. Besides, why would you want to move the attention to the other group when you're performing? but if it is honestly funny and not "cut-throat" types of disses, I guess it is cool.

CrimsonTide4 · #10 02-02-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Cain
The jury is still split on whether it was overboard or not. I respect your opinion CrimsonTide4, but if you would have seen it, you would've laughed too. It's alot of backstory as to why this happened though. I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with friendly competition. It's all fair, as long as you can shake hands afterward, and chill together with a fellow greek. Maybe they shouldn't be so sensitive...............

You askedSo to the greek community, would that be considered as overboard?

To which I stated Overboard ain't hardly the word. That statement equals yes I do think it was overboard.

Had I seen it, I doubt I would have laughed. You assume too much about me in your above response. "but if you would have seen it, you would've laughed too."

There have been stepshows where fights have broken out over disses and orgs have been suspended from campus. Ask yourself this, would my Founders have been pleased? Would they have said well done _________ chapter? Would they have laughed and cheered you on?

Again the diss that Cain referenced, I see as extremely overboard. And had it been my Sorors doing the same skit or one similar to it, I would not have been pleased. But thankfully of the stepshows I have attended, I have been fortunate not to witness anything like that. Repeat, that I HAVE ATTENDED.

Lady of Pearl · #11 02-02-2006, 07:45 PM

why the need to diss anyone when will we wake up and let old habits DIE, nothing productive comes out of this type of display behind every diss or joke is an underlying meaning,

WAKE UP says SPIKE LEE

Senusret I · #12 02-02-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Cain
The jury is still split on whether it was overboard or not. I respect your opinion CrimsonTide4, but if you would have seen it, you would've laughed too. It's alot of backstory as to why this happened though. I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with friendly competition. It's all fair, as long as you can shake hands afterward, and chill together with a fellow greek. Maybe they shouldn't be so sensitive...............

Everything that's funny doesn't need to be said or done, especially not in the name of one's own organization.

I expect fraternity men to be gentlemen, and I've never been impressed with these new school disses -- absolutely no reason to be complex about it, ESPECIALLY when it comes to poking fun at somebody's sexuality on the college level.

Disses that I think are more appropriate are the ultra G rated ones. I saw the Sigmas at Howard say that the Ques stepped like Frankenstein. Tee hee, ha ha, then it was over. I thought it was cute, the crowd had a good laugh, then we moved on.

NUPE4LIFE · #13 02-03-2006, 01:21 PM

Last summer, the Alphas at FSU did 'Trapped in the Closet'. The two gay men in the story where suppose to be both Alpha's and Ques. This year at FSU's Extrav the Ques in their show where fighting terrorism as the Q-team. The three terrorist where Papa Smurf (Sigma, old and tired diss) Nupe Paul (Instead of RuPaul) and Bicurious George (Alphas). I do think that all these disses involving sexuality are a bit overboard. People need to learn to be more creative.

Now one diss that I saw and I was like wow was the FAMU Homecoming Stepshow 2004. Both Chapters of AKA and DST are named BA. That year DST dissed the BA-AKA so hard. Even though everything they were saying was true, it was hard to believe that they would actually do it in a stepshow. It wasn't your typical general diss but it was on a more personal level about somethings that were happening at the chapter at the time. I wish though more competitive stepshows banned dissing. Now if it's a yard show or probate show I don't care but when you're competing then compete.

marquise1911 · #14 02-06-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Cain
This is a very interesting topic. At my homekoming step-show, we did a diss. The Alphas had just crossed a line, and some people on the campus questioned their sexuality. Just in pure fun, but we did a "Trapped in the CLoset" segment about the Alphas. To get to the point, on the part of the song where R.Kelly says, "I open the door, and I'll be got da#n it's man!" part, we had two bros dressed in Black and Gold come out of a makeshift closet and started booty dancing, and doing the Alpha train in a VEEEERY feminine way. When we pulled this stunt, the whole crowd was in shock. It was like one of those "No they didn't" silences. To this day, there is tension between us for that. So to the greek community, would that be considered as overboard?

Well it seems we all go a bit overboard. The Alphas in their last probate show broke plastic canes and trew them at us. Well we proceeded to light paper on fire and chanted, "Paper burns on the sands, paper burns in Kappa Land." At the Deltas probate show the Deltas brought out a huge pink mirror drapped in ivies and proceeded to smash it to bits with red baseball bats. This is all "funny", but in the long run pointless. Very pointless.

Pretty Kitty · #15 02-11-2006, 05:14 PM

When I am judging a show....
Shows with disses... suffer...on my score card....