my peeve

sairose · #1 08-13-2003, 10:56 AM

You know what I just absolutely cannot STAND?????!!!!?

People that put down a sorority for having girls that aren't quite so pretty. Or that are overweight. Or whatever. And I don't see this really with the other sororities, but with independants.

I mean, sisters love each other for WHO THEY ARE, not what they look like. The reason I'm saying all this is because one of the NPC sororities here always gets slammed because they are diverse in their looks--some skinny, some overweight, some supermodel types, some not quite as pretty, whatever. However, they are the sweetest girls, very down-to-earth. I love them to death.

Yet people will slam them just because some of the girls don't look like supermodels. Well, what the HELL does that matter??! I applaud them for seeing beyond the surface and loving each other for who they are, and for being themselves and being proud of it!

Any other thoughts?

rainbowbrightCS · #2 08-13-2003, 11:00 AM

That's funny. Becasue for years GLO was often seen as tall thin supermodel blondes with daddy credit card. GDI said GLO was shallow and horrible for that. Not that they changed they make fun of them still.

This is a no win situation for GLO.

Chris

33girl · #3 08-13-2003, 11:11 AM

The reason anti-Greek independents do this is because it defies all the senseless reasons they have used to hate GLOs ("they're all clones" "they're all blonde and beautiful" "they're all thin"). Prejudiced people don't like when they are proven wrong.

AXPGoBot · #4 08-13-2003, 11:21 AM

The GDI girls probably dont' understand. I mean, think about in high school and stuff. Girls that are pretty usually hang out and are close friends with other girls of approx. equal attractiveness. When joing a group like a sorority, however, you sorta learn to be open to all kinds of new people that you wouldn't necearrily deal with or be friends with if you hadn't joined. I think it's a good thing cuz it makes you really diverse and tolerant of people who might be a lot different than you are. People on they outside don't see that, and it's funny because THEY are really the cloens... chosing to be friends w/ people who are really the same as they are.

Kind of ironic isn't it?

sairose · #5 08-13-2003, 11:33 AM

Yeah, it's a lose-lose situation. You all look gorgeous, and you get bashed. You all look different, and you STILL get bashed. What do they want, anyways?

Tom Earp · #6 08-13-2003, 06:12 PM

Ah sairose, that is the question!

Who in the hell knows!

The ADP when on my campus were known as the ADPigs.

They were the nicest ladys on campus and one of My Brothers Married one, till this day! Last Name Boner! Did she catch it!

The ADP were the only Soroity on campus who would affiliate with a local! Usins! Like wow we were all Adonis!

I to this day wish They would get back on campus as a great Org.

This stereotyping does get a little sad!

Why in the Hell would I want to look like everyone else in My Chapter! DA!

Little People Have Little Minds!

CatStarESP4 · #7 08-13-2003, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by sairose
You know what I just absolutely cannot STAND?????!!!!?

People that put down a sorority for having girls that aren't quite so pretty. Or that are overweight. Or whatever. And I don't see this really with the other sororities, but with independants.

I mean, sisters love each other for WHO THEY ARE, not what they look like. The reason I'm saying all this is because one of the NPC sororities here always gets slammed because they are diverse in their looks--some skinny, some overweight, some supermodel types, some not quite as pretty, whatever. However, they are the sweetest girls, very down-to-earth. I love them to death.

Yet people will slam them just because some of the girls don't look like supermodels. Well, what the HELL does that matter??! I applaud them for seeing beyond the surface and loving each other for who they are, and for being themselves and being proud of it!

Any other thoughts?

sairose, I agree 200%! Sisterhood should based on the heart, not on appearances. I love and respect all my sisters regardless of where they come from and what they look like.

I think that the media (MTV's Sorority Life look and sound familiar?) is also the culprit in proliferating these stereotypic images. It angers and annoys me that a lot of GDIs buy into this and close their minds to the truth.

sairose · #8 08-13-2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by CatStarESP4
sairose, I agree 200%! Sisterhood should based on the heart, not on appearances. I love and respect all my sisters regardless of where they come from and what they look like.

I think that the media (MTV's Sorority Life look and sound familiar?) is also the culprit in proliferating these stereotypic images. It angers and annoys me that a lot of GDIs buy into this and close their minds to the truth.

Yes, that's very true. Sometimes I want to ask them, "Do all of YOUR friends look like cookie cutters? Or are some overweight, some thin, some pretty, some not?" Most likely, THEIR friends would be varied too. So, I don't see how that is different.

Looks have never EVEN been a consideration when extending a bid to someone in SAI. I'm sure this is true for most GLOs. I mean, We have this one girl who has a perfect body and gorgeous curly red hair, and then we have one that weighs over 300 pounds, and then we have one REALLY tall girl, and one who is only 5'2. We have white girls, black girls. Some of us are hotties, some of us...aren't. One girl is bi. We are going to extend a bid to a girl this year who dresses goth, and are going to offer one to a lesbian. But you know what? I'm glad my sisterhood is that way and I wouldn't have it any other way. We love our sisterhood because we can be OURSELVES. I'm glad most sororities are this way; it's too bad the rest of the world can't see us the same way.

sugar and spice · #9 08-14-2003, 01:27 AM

I have to rant about this just because it came up.

Yes, MTV's "Sorority Life" showed an incomplete and often warped view of sorority life . . . but if there is one positive contribution it has made to the general public's perception of sorority women, it is that not all of us are blonde, beautiful and thin. I know plenty of women who were surprised to see the SAEPi sisters during first season because they assumed all of us were the blonde bimbos pictured in most Hollywood representations of sororities. And yes, there were a couple of pretty pledges on season one (Candace, Jordan) that verged on the stereotypical side -- but there were many more who were the exact opposite of the stereotype, and none of the SAEPi sisters promoted the stereotypical look at all.

The second season had some skinny blondes like Talia and Amy and Brooke, but they also had some overweight girls and some girls that were far from beautiful.

Yes, SL shows aspects of Greek life that many of us feel are untrue to our own experiences -- hazing, excessive partying, whatever -- but the blonde-haired bubblehead stereotype is not one of them.

AZpinkkittie · #10 08-14-2003, 09:11 AM

This is so funny because I hear the same thing when i tell people that I will be rushing. I hear these people say "Oh, all sorority girls are dumb blondes that just want to sleep with frat boys." then I try to say that there are hundreds of chapters that don't even come close to fitting that sterotype. Chapters that are made up of girls from different backgrounds, ethnicities, and looks. But because they don't want to seem stupid and superficial (like those supposed sorority girls are

) they come back with, "Yeah, well, they are still all just wanna be clones that can't think for themselvesand have to buy their friends." At this point, I just throw my hands in the air and give up. People who want to hate something because thier whole life society has told them to will not change their mind too easily. And if that's what they want to think, fine. They don't have to be my sister and enjoy all the positive things greek life can bring them.

I also hate it when they say all that crap and then they add "I've only known one sorority/fraternity my whole life that wasn't like that." (The fraternity stereotype being that they are all draining a keg everyday and raping everything with breasts that walks by) Well, doesn't that ONE mean, by definition, that the stereotype isn't true?? It's impossible.

MoxieGrrl · #11 08-14-2003, 09:21 AM

Oh, sairose, I am with ya! This is one of my biggest peeves too. If my sorority would have went with cookie-cutter girls, I would have missed out on some wonderful people who added so much energy, enthusiasm, and love to Kappa Delta. Would I have traded them for the world? Hell no!!

AXPGoBot: That is one of the best points I have ever heard made on GC.

smiley21 · #12 08-14-2003, 09:45 AM

one word: JEALOUSY! and that is all there is to it

squashfly3 · #13 08-14-2003, 11:31 AM

i totally agree with all of what has been said. it really bugs me the type of assumptions that are made when i tell people that i am in a sorority. sororities i think have changed a lot recently...it's not only the dumb blondes or the super model types who join anymore...sororities include all types of girls..short, tall, fat, thin, pretty, average, etc. in my sorority we do not discriminate at all...we will extend a bid to a girl no matter what she looks like...because it is what is on the inside that counts. i know this sounds kind of cheesy but everyone is beautiful...on the inside and out...in their own unique way. so i agree the stereotype is stupid and some people are superficial...and to those people...i say boo you...you don't know what you are missing out on when you only look on the outside.

Lunarwolf · #14 08-14-2003, 11:57 AM

And then there are the girls within whom beauty is damn near impossible to find.

We've all met some of those, I'm sure.

We don't discriminate on looks, but when a girl is about 250 lbs at 5 foot 4, I start worrying about how well they take care of themselves, because while there's no one ideal weight (I'm 'overweight' myself, whatever that means), there is an extremely unhealthy weight. Well, maybe that's discrimination, too.

I love my sorority because it's so diverse, though. Like attracts like in our case in that we're all a little bizarre, but very nice people. ^_^

One of my favorite rush experiences was when I went through round robin at all the houses. This one local sat us all down and gave a basic overview of their sorority, saying at some point,"As for diversity, we're all very diverse, as you can see," as she gestured around the room of mostly blond, white girls with the same ultra-perfect makeup on. They were all wearing the same shirts, as well, so that didn't help much.

Diversity my ass. They had a few brunettes, though.

sairose · #15 08-14-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Lunarwolf

We don't discriminate on looks, but when a girl is about 250 lbs at 5 foot 4, I start worrying about how well they take care of themselves, because while there's no one ideal weight (I'm 'overweight' myself, whatever that means), there is an extremely unhealthy weight. Well, maybe that's discrimination, too.

But what does being overweight/unhealthy have to do with the quality of a sister they might be? We have 2 very heavy girls right now, and they are WONDERFUL sisters. THey love SAI, they help out with everything...they're just great.

Let's put things in perspective. People do LOTS of things that are "unhealthy". A lot of people like to drink. I don't, but but that's cool that others do. However, drinking often is damaging to your liver, and THAT'S not "taking care of yourself" either. I'm sure there are women in your sorority that like to drink. How is this different?