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Old 09-12-2024, 02:47 PM
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Do you ever think NPC will add new members?

There have been the same 26 organizations since 1951. There are quite a few social sororities/women's fraternities that could fit the bill and many of them are associate members of the local college panellenics.

Do you think NPC will ever add new member organizations? If so, which do you think are the most positioned to be granted admission?

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Alpha Omega Epsilon
Kappa Beta Gamma
Phi Sigma Rho
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Old 09-12-2024, 03:42 PM
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To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Right now the groups you mentioned don't have to follow NPC guidelines and while they may be members of college Panhellenics at some schools, that is not the case everywhere. PSR and AOE would likely have to drop their engineering focus (the same way that Alpha Chi Omega dropped their musical focus) and as far as KBG is concerned, well, there's some bad blood there.

I just don't see it happening.
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Old 09-12-2024, 04:11 PM
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To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Right now the groups you mentioned don't have to follow NPC guidelines and while they may be members of college Panhellenics at some schools, that is not the case everywhere. PSR and AOE would likely have to drop their engineering focus (the same way that Alpha Chi Omega dropped their musical focus) and as far as KBG is concerned, well, there's some bad blood there.

I just don't see it happening.
Bad blood? Did they try to join previously and it didn’t work out.

I also have thought of Kappa Delta Phi NAS but I’m not sure how they work in terms of potentially joining.
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Old 09-12-2024, 07:15 PM
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For those not familiar with the process (like myself), what requirements does an sorority need in order to be even considered eligible to join NPC? I know no limitations to membership and a NPC vote must occur.
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Old 09-12-2024, 08:06 PM
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I am somewhat in agreement with 33girl, due to posts and discussions GC has previously produced regarding the subject of NPC Expansion by adding new groups.

Not sure how many GC members are privy to NPC decision-making processes and voting factions, and whether those members are willing to discuss the subject in this forum.
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Old 09-12-2024, 08:55 PM
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No.

People who join groups like AOE and even KBG are looking for a different type of experience. I doubt the groups with an academic focus would want to give that up- especially since it’s been essential to their identity since their founding.

Okay, maybe not an outright no, but not through this path.
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Old 09-12-2024, 11:58 PM
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Per the NPC Manual of information the requirements for membership in NPC are

Requirements for Membership
A women's sorority must have been established in its inter/national character for at least 13 years. All of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities. It must also have
at least 14 chapters that have been established for a minimum of two years

My personal take is that any group would be very wary of joining NPC due to the unanimous agreements that must be adhered to. Especially the ones concerning extension.
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Old 09-13-2024, 11:59 AM
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Per the NPC Manual of information the requirements for membership in NPC are

Requirements for Membership
A women's sorority must have been established in its inter/national character for at least 13 years. All of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities. It must also have
at least 14 chapters that have been established for a minimum of two years

My personal take is that any group would be very wary of joining NPC due to the unanimous agreements that must be adhered to. Especially the ones concerning extension.
While I agree with this, I also think it would strengthen their membership on their campuses.
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Old 09-13-2024, 01:25 PM
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To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.
Good.
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Old 09-14-2024, 06:54 PM
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While I agree with this, I also think it would strengthen their membership on their campuses.
Maybe 10-15 years ago. Things are much much different now.

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Old 09-14-2024, 09:17 PM
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Per the NPC Manual of information the requirements for membership in NPC are

Requirements for Membership
A women's sorority must have been established in its inter/national character for at least 13 years. All of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities. It must also have at least 14 chapters that have been established for a minimum of two years
Reference:

Alpha Omega Epsilon:

Inter/National Years - 30+ years
Number of Chapters (which qualify) - 45


Kappa Beta Gamma:

Inter/National Years - 50+ years
Number of Chapters (which qualify) - 15


Phi Sigma Rho:

Inter/National Years - 30+ years
Number of Chapters (which qualify) - appx 45
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Old 09-15-2024, 11:16 AM
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#1- Could those three organizations become associate members?

#2- Does anyone know of any campus where KBG participates in recruitment?
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Old 09-15-2024, 12:42 PM
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We dropped our chapter at Wake Forest and many of the members became KBGs. I think they rush with NPC. I've been told that it's the members who did not like rules went KBG, so I don't know if they would welcome NPC rules.
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Old 09-15-2024, 05:00 PM
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There have been the same 26 organizations since 1951. There are quite a few social sororities/women's fraternities that could fit the bill and many of them are associate members of the local college panellenics.

Do you think NPC will ever add new member organizations? If so, which do you think are the most positioned to be granted admission?

I think:

Alpha Omega Epsilon
Kappa Beta Gamma
Phi Sigma Rho
That is incorrect, the last change to membership in the NPC was in 1971 when Iota Alpha Pi dissolved itself.
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Old 09-15-2024, 05:04 PM
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To the contrary, I think NPC will lose members or splinter.

Right now the groups you mentioned don't have to follow NPC guidelines and while they may be members of college Panhellenics at some schools, that is not the case everywhere. PSR and AOE would likely have to drop their engineering focus (the same way that Alpha Chi Omega dropped their musical focus) and as far as KBG is concerned, well, there's some bad blood there.

I just don't see it happening.
Right now, the question is what is more likely to splinter the NPC. 1) Differences in size between the largest and the smallest or 2) some attempt to force consistency on the issue of trans women. (I don't really see anything else jumping up in the near term.
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