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Old 07-09-2004, 04:35 PM
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FMA to the floor next week?

The Federal Marriage Amendment is set for discussion next week in the senate, with a potential vote on Wednesday (my Hill sources last week had pinned it down for the 15th- just a day off).
Sounds like there might not be enough support in the senate to get past procedural votes to bring it to the floor.
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Old 07-09-2004, 04:54 PM
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Re: FMA to the floor next week?

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The Federal Marriage Amendment is set for discussion next week in the senate, with a potential vote on Wednesday (my Hill sources last week had pinned it down for the 15th- just a day off).
Sounds like there might not be enough support in the senate to get past procedural votes to bring it to the floor.
It'll never pass. No worries.
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Old 07-10-2004, 07:52 PM
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Congressional outings unfold in light of amendment debate
http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp...10/04-07/12/04

A full-page ad that ran in a Washington, D.C., gay newspaper on Friday is adding to what local gay rights activists are calling an "outing craze," in which some gay activists are threatening to out staffers working for congresspeople who support a proposed federal constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. The ad, titled "Final Call to Conscience," appeared in the Washington Blade on Friday, the same day Republicans in the U.S. Senate began debate on the Federal Marriage Amendment. "For Years Our Silence Has Protected You. Today That Protection Ends," the ad read.

According to The Washington Post, the ad was paid for by the Web site DearMary.com, named after Mary Cheney, Vice President Dick Cheney's openly lesbian daughter, who has remained silent on the FMA. It was similar to "Call to Conscience," an ad that ran in the Blade in 1996 when Congress was deliberating the Defense of Marriage Act. John Aravosis, national cochairman of DearMary.com, told the Post that like the previous ad, this one seeks to highlight the "hypocrisy within gays and lesbians on the Hill who work for antigay members of Congress."

A number of gay rights activists in Washington have been arguing that there are gay men and lesbians on the Hill who lead "closeted" lives at the office, supporting the "homophobic" stance of their bosses, then go to gay bars and attend functions with their gay lovers after work, the Post reports. Asked to explain what sounds like an ultimatum in the ad, Aravosis said, "there is no quid pro quo here. What we're saying is, we won't tolerate this anymore." Aravosis, 40, a political consultant, said DearMary.com has raised $23,000 since February and has used the money to run DearMary.com ads online for the past three weeks. "The gay community needs to have a debate: Is it OK for members of our community to help our enemies attack us? This is a big gay town. Lots of gays, who work for both Republicans and Democrats."

Local fund-raiser and consultant Michael Rogers, 40, is leading his own outing campaign, the Post reports. Two days ago he started a Web log that lists the names of congressional staffers who he and his network of a dozen volunteers say are gay, based on tips from "Hill staffers" and "organizational staffers," he said yesterday. "We're working on a lot of leads, two of them elected members of Congress," said Rogers, who says he has received death threats since launching the blog. "Fact is, a group of congressmen have declared war on gay people, and we're fighting back. We need to expose the hypocrisy of Congress."

The Human Rights Campaign and the Log Cabin Republicans have both come out against the "outing tactics." "Our enemies are the enemies on Capitol Hill and in the White House who are trying to write discrimination in the Constitution," HRC spokesman Steven Fisher told the Post. "The outing of staffers is counterproductive," added Log Cabin executive director Patrick Guerriero. "It takes the focus away from changing the hearts and minds of legislators on Capitol Hill.... The reality is, there are a lot of courageous Hill staffers having heart-to-heart discussions with their bosses to get them to be on the right side of the FMA issue. Coming out is a personal journey, not one dictated by others."
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There's at least 1 member of the Iowa State greek community working on the Hill right now that could be affected by this outing campaign.
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Old 07-11-2004, 05:05 AM
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I also doubt it would pass. Is there any indication how many states are in favor of the amendment?

ETA: What the organization want to do is not cool. It should be up to the individual whether or not they want to be out of the closet.

I also read this in an article from Bloomberg:

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President George W. Bush said a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage will ``strengthen families'' and prevent ``activist'' courts from allowing same-sex couples to marry.
I don't think banning same-sex marriage will do any of them. IT is up to the couple to strengthen the families. I highly doubt that a gay union will disrupt the strength of my family or any other family. Bush is really reaching.

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Old 07-11-2004, 07:53 AM
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I don't think banning same-sex marriage will do any of them. IT is up to the couple to strengthen the families. I highly doubt that a gay union will disrupt the strength of my family or any other family. Bush is really reaching.

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Since when do fundamentalist Christian policies NOT reach?

This kind of crap is the only thing that makes me hesitant to vote for Bush. But I will anyway. I just have to consider the alternative.
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Old 07-11-2004, 05:51 PM
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I also doubt it would pass. Is there any indication how many states are in favor of the amendment?

ETA: What the organization want to do is not cool. It should be up to the individual whether or not they want to be out of the closet.

I also read this in an article from Bloomberg:



I don't think banning same-sex marriage will do any of them. IT is up to the couple to strengthen the families. I highly doubt that a gay union will disrupt the strength of my family or any other family. Bush is really reaching.

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Comments about strengthening marriage and family are always taken out of context. It is not against homosexuals and isn't some rabid hate policy to say gays are sending us to hell. It is a statement that family should be linked to marriage - that it shouldn't be like France where you can get some sort of union and not a marriage, that children in stable families do better, etc. Harvard's law journal came out saying most people for this bill are fueled by hate, but are they really?

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Old 07-11-2004, 05:54 PM
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Perhaps this kind of idiot-activism is one reason you won't find the sitting President speaking at their rallies.
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Old 07-11-2004, 07:03 PM
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Did ANYONE else's pastor talk about this today? Dr. Jeremiah went into deep detail on why it's needed and what would happen if we didn't have the FMA.
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Old 07-11-2004, 07:04 PM
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I am gay.

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Old 07-11-2004, 07:11 PM
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I am gay.

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What's your point? Wanna marry Starang?
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