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Old 08-23-2023, 12:32 AM
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Indiana University Kappa Sigma placed on Cease and Desist

Kappa Sigma placed on cease and desist for alcohol, hazing, endangering others

The chapter just rechartered last semester - it had been suspended in 2018.
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Old 08-23-2023, 10:46 AM
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As a 20+ year fraternity advisor, I don’t even react to these closings ⬆️ anymore. I just shake my head and hope my guys have better sense.
Two song titles came immediately to mind:

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Old 08-23-2023, 11:14 AM
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What I've noticed in a certain organization that I am very familiar with (read between the lines) is that newly chartered or re-chartered chapters are getting into trouble on average within two years.

There are what I call the "big, historical" chapters; usually a state flagship school or a private school that's been around since forever. Then there are the "regional school" chapters; these are the schools like SouthWestCentral State University or University of State-Smallville.

What are we noticing?

The "big, historical" chapter, was shut down due to RMF. When they are re-established, they start out with the attitude "We're bring back Kappa Tau Gamma! We're going to be better than ever!" They do everything correct during the re-establishment period. They get re-chartered and then, "We've got to make pledging harder. The other fraternities on campus are saying it's too easy to become a KT." Alumni and legacies of the chapter: "Guys, y'all need to do this tradition that we had since the 50s. What? HQ is forbidding that? Screw 'em. Everybody keep your mouth shut. What HQ doesn't know won't hurt 'em."

And, then the re-established chapter gets right back into the same RMF issues that got them shut down because the new members are listening to the alumni who screwed up the chapter in the first place.

Does it happen at the "regional" chapter? Yes, but not as often and usually takes them a bit longer to get back into RMF issues.
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Old 08-24-2023, 01:56 PM
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I'm just surprised how short of a time it took between official recharter to cease and desist - not even 6 months!
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Old 08-24-2023, 03:31 PM
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LaneSig—You are so astute with your evaluation and comments on RMF issues regarding chapters in different stages. I’ve actually shared your thoughts with other advisor friends who found them “spit on” as one said.
THANK YOU for your post.
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Old 09-17-2023, 11:23 AM
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I've seen a lot of the same pattern with regard to mainline schools versus smaller schools and RM issues.

But that said, there are some organizations which did a lot of expansion a long time ago at the smaller schools and those groups have a lot of the same issues as groups which focus on mainline schools. I'd suggest that the issue is more with the age of chapters and the availability of old school alums who advocate their old school traditions.
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Old 09-18-2023, 08:46 AM
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It's funny, I used to think that longer bans from Campus represented additional Punishment, but now I think of it more as an effort to make sure that the alumni of the chapter are less involved in any new effort.

I wonder whether an open statement that any effort to return the chapter to the school will be under different letters is basically an effort on the Fraternity's part to do the same thing.
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