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11-10-2006, 01:52 AM
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Sigma Alpha Epsilon Closes Case Western Reserve Chapter
Sigma Alpha Epsilon has pulled the charter of its chapter at Case Western Reserve U. in Cleveland. Memberss have been required to move out of the house. The university has withdrawn recognition of SAE for a period of at least six years. A party with kegs reportedly was a factor in the decisions, according to the article in the student newspaper, the Observer:
http://observer.case.edu/Archives/Vo...10/Story_1188/
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11-10-2006, 10:36 AM
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SAE fined the chapter $15,000..... when (or if) the group recolonizes, will the new guys be responsible for that fine?
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11-10-2006, 10:50 AM
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SAE fined the chapter $15,000..... when (or if) the group recolonizes, will the new guys be responsible for that fine?
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I'm guessing yes.
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11-10-2006, 10:58 AM
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I'm guessing yes.
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That's an awful lot of bake sales. 
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11-10-2006, 10:59 AM
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That's an awful lot of bake sales. |
Not if it's the right kind of "bake" sales. Whoops was that out loud?
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11-10-2006, 11:13 AM
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Not if it's the right kind of "bake" sales. Whoops was that out loud?
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11-10-2006, 11:48 AM
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From the article:
"Had the chapter been allowed to remain on campus, they would still have faced harsh sanctions. SAE national bylaws prohibit kegs at parties and levied a $15,000 fine on the Case chapter.
However, since the chapter was removed from campus by the judicial board, the fine will be left unpaid"
So I would assume that if they do recolonize, they won't have to have any bake sales 
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11-10-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses
From the article:
"Had the chapter been allowed to remain on campus, they would still have faced harsh sanctions. SAE national bylaws prohibit kegs at parties and levied a $15,000 fine on the Case chapter.
However, since the chapter was removed from campus by the judicial board, the fine will be left unpaid"
So I would assume that if they do recolonize, they won't have to have any bake sales |
It said "unpaid" not "forgiven"....which is why I asked my original question. 
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11-10-2006, 12:26 PM
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Technically speaking it's a different chapter. I'd hope they wouldn't be put into debt upon colonization. It would only put them at a disadvantage.
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11-10-2006, 12:37 PM
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Technically speaking it's a different chapter.
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No, it would still be the XYZ chapter of SAE. Unless SAE works differently then 98% of GLOs.
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11-10-2006, 12:41 PM
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No, it would still be the XYZ chapter of SAE. Unless SAE works differently then 98% of GLOs.
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No, I get that. Unless they do the "Deuteron" thing or some such. I'm just saying that the chapter itself is different. These guys didn't get in trouble and get a fine.
I'd just hope that they wouldn't get stuck in a position of such a large debt because it would likely mean higher dues and fewer social activies etc. It just seems counter-productive to recolonizing a chapter...
/this is all only IMHO
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11-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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My guess is that Drolefille is correct, if SAE ever wants to recolonize at Case.
A $15,000 fine right off the top of recolonizing efforts, along with whatever the university requires, could be an insurmountable obstacle for a new group -- unless there are a lot of rich alums.
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11-10-2006, 03:15 PM
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Just out of curiousity say like a few SAE's were having a kegger on their own time off campus. Some SAE's showed up some GDI's you know like your typical college gathering. It was never labeled an SAE party, could that hurt the chapter? Sorry if I sound stupid.
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11-10-2006, 03:21 PM
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Based on my sorority's risk management rules (which may or may not be similar to SAE's) if you talk about it in chapter, send it through the email listserve or advertise it in any way as an SAE event (think Facebook), then it is and the chapter is responsible.
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11-10-2006, 03:35 PM
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Just out of curiousity say like a few SAE's were having a kegger on their own time off campus. Some SAE's showed up some GDI's you know like your typical college gathering. It was never labeled an SAE party, could that hurt the chapter? Sorry if I sound stupid.
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It doesn't sound stupid.
The rules vary from organization to organization. Some allegedly are so strict that if there are more than, say three, members present, it's considered a chapter event. That's pretty stringent.
If it was organized by members, it will often be considered a chapter event.
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