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Old 05-07-2008, 02:50 AM
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10 Tulane Pikes Arrested for Hazing

10 members of the Eta Chapter of the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity commonly referred to as Pike have been arrested or have an arrest warrant out for their arrest in connection to charges of hazing pledges. The event that resulted in this arrest occurred on April 25 when several members of Pike poured boiling water on their pledges. 2 pledges were severely burned and had to be taken to the hospital. They were said to be covered with second and third degree burns. Tulane as of 5/6/08 has suspended the fraternity from the campus but Pike nationals have not yet revoked their charter. I was friends with one of the guys who got burnt but i had not talked after he rushed Pike. i wish him the best of luck in his recovery and i hope everything turns out well for him but from what i have heard he will have to have some plastic surgery.
http://www.wdsu.com/news/16180381/de...ss=no&psp=news

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Old 05-07-2008, 02:58 AM
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sorry for the double thread i didnt see that somebody else had already posted this information.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:29 AM
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My dad just called to tell me this. He wasn't that shocked because some other Tulane Fraternities were kicked off about a decade ago for hazing. Looks like some serious education on hazing is due at Tulane for the Greeks there.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:09 AM
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This story illustrates why hazing is so bad! I'm sure they started out pouring silly things over the pledges....who's going to get hurt being covered by beer and ketchup? Then someone has the great idea to use boiling water instead. I can't imagine what kind of moron would come up with that idea, but these traditions get screwy over the years. Second and third degree burns are VERY serious...these poor guys could be in treatment for years, and depending on the percentage of body surface covered in burns, they could actually die! I'm shocked and dismayed by this story.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:14 AM
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This is truly sick! (This behavior is beyond belief)
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:08 PM
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Lock them all up, boiling water?
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:22 PM
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Tulane Fraternities were kicked off about a decade ago for hazing.

I think it is safe to say that all Greek groups are different than they were a decade ago. It is sad that hazing with clubs and sports teams doesn't make the same headlines that anything Greek does.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:36 PM
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Tulane Fraternities were kicked off about a decade ago for hazing.

I think it is safe to say that all Greek groups are different than they were a decade ago. It is sad that hazing with clubs and sports teams doesn't make the same headlines that anything Greek does.
I see your point, but I think any group would make headlines for hazing by boiling water! Remember the middle school girls that got busted a few years back for hazing new members of their club? That sure made the news!
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:07 PM
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Let's see... this guys were smart enough to get into Tulane, but too dumb to know that boiling water causes *permanent* disfigurement???

There is no hazing law/punishment harsh enough for them. I have worked in burn units before... the pain that these individuals face is often the worst kind of pain possible.

My heart goes out to the young men who are facing surgeries and lifelong physical scars. Very sad.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:57 PM
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Reportedly, Pi Kappa Alpha HQ has condemned the alleged hazing and "suspended" members. Not a whole lot of details, but there is an article:

http://www.wxvt.com/Global/story.asp...nav=menu1344_2


Another article has a quote from an attorney for one of the students:

http://wbztv.com/local/tulane.frater....2.717625.html

Excerpt:

An attorney representing one of the victims said at least 10 pledges were burned with a mixture of boiling hot crab boil and pepper spray.

"He was in shock when it happened," said attorney Frank D'Amico. "They took him to the hospital and told him to fabricate a story of how he got burned."

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Old 05-07-2008, 04:07 PM
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and yet I still wonder why people say "hazing doesn't really do any damage. It's just fun and games and builds trust, brotherhood and a sense of pride in the fraternity." sure....until someone really does get hurt. i would never belong to anything that causes me pain or humiliation, permanent or not. i am a joiner and like to be involved in organizations, but i value myself more than any organization.

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Old 05-07-2008, 05:28 PM
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Good, glad they are getting kicked off!

They deserve it!

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Old 05-07-2008, 06:01 PM
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Tulane Fraternities were kicked off about a decade ago for hazing.

I think it is safe to say that all Greek groups are different than they were a decade ago. It is sad that hazing with clubs and sports teams doesn't make the same headlines that anything Greek does.
Especially when it looks like the Tulane greek system is diminishing. As someone who is from New Orleans, most of my family graduated from Tulane and Newcomb, and my family is still there and I can say that their system seems to be fading. They are home to many early chapters of fraternities and sororities too, which is why it is sad when this type of behavoir happens. It only hurts everyone on their campus. But my dad wasn't shocked because he hadn't seen any real changes on their campus in Greek Life pre-Katrina or post-Katrina. So perhaps a major overhaul would be beneficial especially in their fraternity system. I would gather most of their sororities are okay. But that's just my two cents!
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:35 PM
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Oh.My.God.

Seriously??? Boiling water???

Seriously??

People, boiling water can definately cause 3rd degree burns, which can kill people, depending on the amount of body sq ft is burned. This is not a joke. I have worked in burn units before, this stuff is not a joke!!! Ugh, this makes me sick!!!
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