Upperclassman Quota (for PNMs and parents to read.)

KSUViolet06 · #1 08-10-2011, 02:05 PM

Hey peeps, I'm noticing that quite a few PNMs this year are going through recruitment at schools that are using upperclassman/junior quotas.

Upperclassman quota is great in that it helps sophs and juniors to get placed at schools where they previously would have had zero shot at all.

However, I'm seeing posts saying stuff like "I'm nervous because I'm a junior but it's cool because my school has upperclassman quota and I should be ok."

I just wanted to point out a few things so that PNMs understand upperclassman quota correctly:

*It's not a guaranteed bid.

*Just because a school has upperclassman quota, doesn't mean that a chapter has to take advantage of it.

As always, best of luck to the sophs/juniors/etc. I hate being the Debbie Downer here, but please keep these things in mind!

Benzgirl · #2 08-10-2011, 03:29 PM

^^^Like

AOIIalum · #3 08-10-2011, 04:31 PM

Double Like.

Upperclass quota or not, recruitment remains a mutual selection process and there are no guarantees on either side.

KSUViolet06 · #4 08-10-2011, 08:03 PM

^^^Exactly, just putting that out there. I'd hate for a PNM to think it's something that it's not.

KSUViolet06 · #5 08-14-2011, 03:19 PM

Bumping back to top for PNMs.

KSUViolet06 · #6 09-04-2011, 01:58 PM

bumping.

IrishLake · #7 09-04-2011, 03:05 PM

There's quite a few good threads like this one that should become Stickied to the top.

DeltaBetaBaby · #8 09-04-2011, 03:39 PM

So, I had previously assumed that UC quota was determined like regular quota: number of UC PNM's signing bid cards/number of chapters. I found out this year that is far from true. So, not only does a chapter not have to use its UC quota, but even if every chapter does, there are very often fewer spots than UC PNM's.

LAblondeGPhi · #9 09-07-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

So, I had previously assumed that UC quota was determined like regular quota: number of UC PNM's signing bid cards/number of chapters. I found out this year that is far from true. So, not only does a chapter not have to use its UC quota, but even if every chapter does, there are very often fewer spots than UC PNM's.

Is this new or campus-specific? In previous years at UCLA, upperclassmen quota was determined just like freshman quota. Last year, freshman quota was 27, upperclassmen quota was 16.
Although, upperclassmen was both sophomores and juniors, so juniors are still at a disadvantage to sophomores.

KSUViolet06 · #10 09-07-2011, 12:21 AM

^^^Always thought that it was calculated that way as well.

Your post does bring up a good point for this thread, though.

At some schools, upperclassman quota includes both sophomores and juniors (like UCLA.)

However, there are schools where upperclassman quota includes sophomores only.

DeltaBetaBaby · #11 09-07-2011, 11:12 AM

As far as I know, upperclassman quota is mentioned nowhere in the MOI. Therefore, campuses are free to set it as they wish.

OneHeartOneWay · #12 09-07-2011, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

As far as I know, upperclassman quota is mentioned nowhere in the MOI. Therefore, campuses are free to set it as they wish.

This is my understanding as well (although I am certainly open to being proven wrong, as I've never actually looked for it myself!). I do know of at least one school that arbitrarily (for lack of a better word) selects upperclassmen quota- it has no bearing on the number of UC PNMs, as it is voted on with the recruitment rules the semester prior to FR.

33girl · #13 09-07-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHeartOneWay

This is my understanding as well (although I am certainly open to being proven wrong, as I've never actually looked for it myself!). I do know of at least one school that arbitrarily (for lack of a better word) selects upperclassmen quota- it has no bearing on the number of UC PNMs, as it is voted on with the recruitment rules the semester prior to FR.

That's kind of the impression I got from here - that it was just a random number.

DTD Alum · #14 09-07-2011, 05:16 PM

At USC, for example, there is a set number of juniors that a sorority can take in addition to quota...used to be 2, but apparently now it is 4. Few, if any, chapters take more than their number even though many more juniors may be rushing, so juniors are still at a huge disadvantage and are heavily cut even with the junior quota. At this campus sophomores are not prejudiced against nearly as much as others because SC is heavy on spring admits and transfers.

KSUViolet06 · #15 09-30-2011, 03:26 AM

Bumping.