I recently heard her speak at a dinner put on by the Queen's Bench [a group of female attorneys in SF]. She was a fab speaker. She had the good sense to realize that she should wait until the meal had been served before speaking, so people could hear her, instead of the noise of meal service. If anyone has the chance to hear her speak, don't let it pass you by. She's a credit to AKA's, and Women attorneys as well.