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Old 10-08-2003, 06:45 PM
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Lightbulb Muslim Barbie??



Muslim doll offers modest alternative to Barbie

LIVONIA, Michigan (AP) --At first glance, this new girl on the block doesn't give Barbie much of a run for her money. After all, Barbie is everything Razanne is not -- curvaceous, flashy and loaded with sex appeal.

But that's exactly why many Muslim Americans prefer Razanne, with her long-sleeved dresses, head scarf and, by her creator Ammar Saadeh's own admission, a not-so-buxom bustline.

For Saadeh, the doll not only fills a marketing void but also offers Muslim girls someone they can relate to.

"The main message we try to put forward through the doll is that what matters is what's inside you, not how you look," said Saadeh, who set up NoorArt Inc. with his wife and a few other investors.

The Livonia-based company, founded about seven years ago, sells the Razanne doll and a number of other toys geared toward Muslim children.

"It doesn't matter if you're tall or short, thin or fat, beautiful or not, the real beauty seen by God and fellow Muslims is what's in your soul," he said.

Razanne has the body of a preteen. The doll comes in three types: fair-skinned blonde, olive-skinned with black hair, or black skin and black hair.

Her aspirations are those of a modern Muslim woman. On the drawing board for future dolls are Dr. Razanne and possibly even Astronaut Razanne. There's also Muslim Girl Scout Razanne, complete with a cassette recording of the Muslim Scout's oath.

What sets Razanne apart from her few competitors is that she "holds a global appeal for Muslim girls," Saadeh said. That image encouraged Mimo Debryn, of West Bloomfield Township, to buy the doll for her daughter, Jenna, four years ago.

"Razanne looks like the majority of women around Jenna," said Debryn. "She loves that doll and always took care of her, giving Razanne a special place in her room, treating her with respect.

"Jenna never tried to take Razanne's hijab (head scarf) off, though Barbie was usually stripped naked," she said as her daughter, 11, curled up on the couch and smiled.

Global appeal
In the United States, Mattel, which makes Barbie, markets a Moroccan Barbie and sells a collector's doll named Leyla. Leyla's elaborate costume and tale of being taken as a slave in the court of a Turkish sultan are intended to convey the tribulations of one Muslim girl in the 1720s.

"It's no surprise that they'd try to portray a Middle Eastern Barbie either as a belly dancer or a concubine," said Saadeh, adding that countering such stereotypes was one of his main aims in developing Razanne.

Mattel didn't respond to repeated calls seeking comment.

Laila, the Arab League's answer to Barbie, offered girls of the league's 22-member states a culturally acceptable alternative to Barbie's flashy lifestyle. But she never made it to store shelves. Sara and Dara were launched a couple of years ago -- Iran's version of Barbie and her beau, Ken. The two were offshoots of a children's cartoon in Iran.

But Saadeh said those dolls are more "cultural and don't have mass appeal in the Middle East."

Saadeh hopes to capture that market. Razanne will soon be marketed in Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and make greater inroads in southeast Asia.

The doll is sold throughout the United States, Canada, Singapore and Germany. Saadeh would not reveal the doll's sales figures, but he said retail sales over the company's Web site account for a majority of the almost 30,000 dolls sold per year.

Prices range from $9.99 for a single doll to $24.99 for a set like Teacher Razanne that includes a briefcase and other accessories.

Saudi Arabia's religious police recently declared Barbie dolls a threat to morality, complaining that the revealing clothes are offensive to Islam.

Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries likely would be attracted to Praying Razanne, who comes complete with a long hijab and modest prayer gown.

Lest people think that she's all about praying, there's In-Out Razanne, whose wardrobe also includes a short, flowery dress she can wear inside the home, in view only of men in her family.

"Razanne represents to Muslim girls that they have options, goals and dreams and the ability to realize them," said Debryn.

Jenna, who recently donned the veil after much soul-searching, said Razanne makes her "feel more comfortable about being a Muslim girl."



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Old 10-08-2003, 06:46 PM
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thats retarded. i hope bill gates buys all these dolls and burns them
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Old 10-08-2003, 06:55 PM
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burn it!!!

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Old 10-08-2003, 06:58 PM
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Hey I think it's great! Granted it probably won't be a lucrative product, but the principle of it appeals to me.
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Old 10-08-2003, 07:46 PM
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Thumbs up

All little girls need a figure to identify with. If this doll helps, then good!
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Old 10-08-2003, 07:53 PM
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thats retarded. i hope bill gates buys all these dolls and burns them

I'm with you, thats one of the gayest things I've ever seen.
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Old 10-08-2003, 08:04 PM
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I'm sorry that you guys find this so "retarded" and its sad that you think that. Just because the doll does have huge breasts and blonde hair doesnt mean you should knock it.

Every little girl does need something they can relate to and just in case you havent noticed. Most of the world doesnt look like Barbie.
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Old 10-08-2003, 08:05 PM
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Rudey, Imthachamp, and cashmoney, made me laugh. THANKS!
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Old 10-08-2003, 08:08 PM
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Rudey, Imthachamp, and cashmoney, made me laugh. THANKS!
All girls need a hottie to look up to. I don't want to find a girl i like who is traumatized in her youth and becomes homely.

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Old 10-08-2003, 08:16 PM
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All girls need a hottie to look up to. I don't want to find a girl i like who is traumatized in her youth and becomes homely.

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Old 10-08-2003, 08:20 PM
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I'm sorry that you guys find this so "retarded" and its sad that you think that. Just because the doll does have huge breasts and blonde hair doesnt mean you should knock it.

Every little girl does need something they can relate to and just in case you havent noticed. Most of the world doesnt look like Barbie.


So if they made a little miniture Peter North so that boys like me could relate, there'd be no problem?
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Old 10-08-2003, 08:39 PM
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I'm sorry that you guys find this so "retarded" and its sad that you think that. Just because the doll does have huge breasts and blonde hair doesnt mean you should knock it.
I bet they do knock them.

I think you meant "DOESN'T have huge breasts and blonde hair".
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Old 10-08-2003, 08:53 PM
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what kind of doll is this?!!!
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Old 10-08-2003, 10:13 PM
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I guess that every little girl needs to have a doll that reflects her heritage.

Does the male version come with four wives & an oil well?
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Old 10-08-2003, 10:16 PM
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Guys, is this really necessary? I know there are a lot of stereotypes about Muslims, but geez. Like some have said, if little girls identify more with this doll, then what's wrong with it?
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