Recruitment Infraction?

UF56 · #1 07-08-2002, 12:28 PM

I met a girl the other day who is also rushing this fall here at UF. She told me about how her aunt got in contact with XYZ nationals and got information on the actives here on campus. Her aunt then emailed on active in her home town and put her (the pnm) in contact with the active and how they have been emailing and are going to the mall next week to meet in person. Are they allowed to do this? I mean I feel like that will put the rest of us that are rushing at a disadvantage? Am I wrong?

BrandiDZ · #2 07-08-2002, 12:39 PM

At my University, this would be a recruitment infraction (from what I understand). During summer we cant hang out or contact PNM unless an established friendship existed prior to recruitment activities. Also, these have to be pretty solid friendships- someone you have known your entire life, or a family friend.

madmax · #3 07-08-2002, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by UF56
I met a girl the other day who is also rushing this fall here at UF. She told me about how her aunt got in contact with XYZ nationals and got information on the actives here on campus. Her aunt then emailed on active in her home town and put her (the pnm) in contact with the active and how they have been emailing and are going to the mall next week to meet in person. Are they allowed to do this? I mean I feel like that will put the rest of us that are rushing at a disadvantage? Am I wrong?

I dont have any problem with the situation. I dont think it is any different than you introducing your younger brother, sister cousin, son, daughter or best friend from home to your active members. It happens all the time. It might be a disadbantage for you this time but it all evens out.

kddani · #4 07-08-2002, 12:54 PM

If these were the exact events that happened and it could be proved, this would be considered a rush infraction.
If they just happened to meet casually, not set up through a relative contacting the national office, etc. then it would probably be okay. But this is kind of ridiculous. Meeting an alumnae to write a rec is OK, but meeting an active from the chapter you want to rush really just isn't kosher. The active should have better sense than that, and the girl probably doesn't realize it's a problem.
And isn't UF's rush pretty competitive too?

UF56 · #5 07-08-2002, 01:04 PM

Well the girl I talked to said she wasnt supposed to tell anyone that they had been talking which is what made me think it was not right and then I started thinking about different things I have read on this board and remembered reading something about that being wrong.

justamom · #6 07-08-2002, 01:24 PM

Maybe t would be helpful to the PNMsfollowing these boards to list some general rush infractions so they can avoid a potential problem. Anyone care to help?

AOII*Azra-elle · #7 07-08-2002, 02:12 PM

JAM~
That's a good idea. Different schools have different things for rush infractions. I know that my school gives out booklets that intro a pnm to each sorority and gives rush infractions in them. I could look them up and post some---it's a good idea!

Enna05 · #8 07-08-2002, 03:01 PM

I have a quick question about allowed contact before Recruitment. I'll be a sophomore rushing in the fall at a large university, but one of my best friends from college is an active member of one of the sororities. If I talk to her about rush, is that considered an infraction? Also, what if I hang out with her before formal rush? Is that something that should be avoided?

I don't want to break any rules, but I also want to keep in touch with my friend!

kddani · #9 07-08-2002, 03:09 PM

Enna05-
It depends on the particular rush rules of the school.
At my school, if a rushee was good friends or roommates with a woman in a sorority, that sister had to alert panhel and let them know.
It might be best to be careful what you discuss. Discussing greek life in general may be okay, but houses in particular would be a no-no.
However, if you do talk about, do it in private so no one else knows about it. If you're out to lunch somewhere on or near campus with her talking about it, and someone overhears you, that could easily turn into a rush infraction.
But each school has different ways of handling those situations. Contact the Greek Life office.

greeklawgirl · #10 07-08-2002, 03:09 PM

Enna05, I would definitely shy away from discussing rush with her this summer. If you talk to her, keep the topic away from recruitment. If I were you, I would also keep a respectful distance. Keep things short, sweet, and to the point.

Some may think that's going a little bit overboard, but personally I'd rather be safe than sorry. You would be doing the both of you a favor.

KarenC725 · #11 07-08-2002, 03:14 PM

I agree to err on the side of caution. I knew a PNM who actually saw the skit a house was going to do by stopping by to pick up her old friend from high school. That didn't get out during rush but think about the consequences!

AOX81 · #12 07-08-2002, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by UF56
I met a girl the other day who is also rushing this fall here at UF. She told me about how her aunt got in contact with XYZ nationals and got information on the actives here on campus. Her aunt then emailed on active in her home town and put her (the pnm) in contact with the active and how they have been emailing and are going to the mall next week to meet in person. Are they allowed to do this? I mean I feel like that will put the rest of us that are rushing at a disadvantage? Am I wrong?

At the campus that I went to this would most likely be overlooked. The other sororities usually hold COB events before the beginning of school so nobody would even care or even think twice about it.

ROWDYsister · #13 07-08-2002, 04:32 PM

I wish I had some concrete info on when at UF we are allowed to speak to PNMs, but I don't.

I got the impression that speaking to PNMs during Spirit Week (work week) and Recruitment Week is off-limits. That's ANY potential new member, unless of course there is a valid reason you need to speak, such as class or work, and recruitment cannot be discussed.

Dirty rushing doesn't seem to be a problem at UF, the majority of summer B students are incoming freshman and if they happen to meet sorority members when out on the town and get to talking, it wouldn't be a big deal.

However, this "calling up an active and arranging a meeting" seems a little sneaky. Not on the part of the active because I'm sure she doesn't want to be rude and refuse to speak to the girl or do something as innocent as go shopping, and not on the part of the potential new member because I'm sure she just wants to meet new people and interact with an active, but the aunt's motives are questionable.

On the other hand, if they get along and the girl is offered a bid, good for her. It wouldn't be much different than those two having met years ago and getting along.

In any case, UF56, don't worry. I don't know if this is the case for you, but a lot of girls I know went into recruitment without knowing anyone else, and it didn't influence where they got bids (myself included).

ThielGirlie · #14 07-08-2002, 05:49 PM

I have a quick question:

I am a Junior at my school, and I'm close with a lot of Greeks and will be doing informal for XYZ. A few of my guy friends from a certain fraternity REEEEALY want me to rush XYZ, and think I would get along great with the girls. They gave me the screen names of a few girls (and vice versa) that they said I would really get along with. I've been talking to them over the summer, but we try to keep the subject away from recruitment. The one girl even said she won't directly tell me the dates of recruitment, but will let my guy friend know, and he'll tell me. I even remember meeting some of these girls at fraternity parties. We're trying really hard to keep away from any infractions.

Anybody see any infractions I don't? I'd appreciate any input.

UF56 · #15 07-08-2002, 05:55 PM

Thanks everyone for clearing this up for me!!!