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05-20-2010, 01:23 PM
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Parents sue Episcopal School of Dallas over daughter's relationship with teacher
The parents of a former student at the Episcopal School of Dallas are suing the private school, accusing it of failing to protect their 16-year-old daughter from a sexual relationship with a teacher and expelling her “for being a victim.”
“The teacher victimized her, then the school victimized her,” the girl’s father said in an interview. The parents are identified in court papers as John and Jane Doe to protect their daughter’s privacy. The Rev. Stephen Swann, the school’s headmaster, did not return a call for comment, but attorney Donald E. Godwin said the school “took every appropriate action.”
“ESD did not dismiss the young lady from the school,” Godwin said. “It was the decision of the parents, of the father, to remove the student from the school.” The lawsuit alleges that J. Nathan Campbell, who taught history at the school, had a sexual relationship with the girl for seven months. Campbell could not be reached for comment.
The relationship, which allegedly began in the spring of 2009, was discovered last fall when the teacher and student were found by police at night in a car in an abandoned parking lot. According to the parents, the two claimed the girl was undergoing counseling. No arrests were made immediately, but after the Police Department contacted the school, Campbell resigned.
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I guess I'm failing to see how this is the school's fault. Sure, they're the ones with the money, but if they're truly seeking justice, they should be going after the teacher.
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05-20-2010, 01:32 PM
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The parents of a former student at the Episcopal School of Dallas are suing the private school, accusing it of failing to protect their 16-year-old daughter from a sexual relationship with a teacher and expelling her “for being a victim.”
“The teacher victimized her, then the school victimized her,” the girl’s father said in an interview. The parents are identified in court papers as John and Jane Doe to protect their daughter’s privacy. The Rev. Stephen Swann, the school’s headmaster, did not return a call for comment, but attorney Donald E. Godwin said the school “took every appropriate action.”
“ESD did not dismiss the young lady from the school,” Godwin said. “It was the decision of the parents, of the father, to remove the student from the school.” The lawsuit alleges that J. Nathan Campbell, who taught history at the school, had a sexual relationship with the girl for seven months. Campbell could not be reached for comment.
The relationship, which allegedly began in the spring of 2009, was discovered last fall when the teacher and student were found by police at night in a car in an abandoned parking lot. According to the parents, the two claimed the girl was undergoing counseling. No arrests were made immediately, but after the Police Department contacted the school, Campbell resigned.
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I guess I'm failing to see how this is the school's fault. Sure, they're the ones with the money, but if they're truly seeking justice, they should be going after the teacher.
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School's arguably responsible for hiring the teacher/keeping the teacher and allegedly expelling the student.
I say arguably since that's the whole point of the case.
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05-20-2010, 01:48 PM
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I can't comment on Texas law, but I could definitely see a possible case against the school for negligent hiring (if the teacher has a history) and failure to protect because of the in loco parentis relationship if that's supported by the law in Texas.
I trust that the lawsuit against both the teacher and the school isn't frivolous. And as to its outcome, I don't really care.
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05-20-2010, 01:52 PM
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failure to protect because of the in loco parentis relationship
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I can see that, but isn't that only in effect while the child is at school?
I doubt that 1) they were engaging in intercourse/promoting their relationship during school hours and 2) giving daily updates of their statutory exploits to administrators.
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05-20-2010, 01:56 PM
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I can see that, but isn't that only in effect while the child is at school?
I doubt that 1) they were engaging in intercourse/promoting their relationship during school hours and 2) giving daily updates of their statutory exploits to administrators.
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If I introduced you to a guy and told you he was a really great person and you should hang out, and then he steals all your stuff, you're gonna be pissed at me. If I were somehow in a position of authority and told you to hang out with this guy, you might sue me.
No, having a relationship isn't stealing, but it is a violation of trust, ethics, policy and possibly the law.
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05-20-2010, 02:22 PM
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If I introduced you to a guy and told you he was a really great person and you should hang out, and then he steals all your stuff, you're gonna be pissed at me. If I were somehow in a position of authority and told you to hang out with this guy, you might sue me.
No, having a relationship isn't stealing, but it is a violation of trust, ethics, policy and possibly the law.
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I'd be pissed at him, not you (but I see what you're getting at).
On the other hand, though, it's not as if the school forced them into a relationship. The two started the relationship (hopefully) without any influence from the school.
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05-20-2010, 02:25 PM
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I'd be pissed at him, not you (but I see what you're getting at).
On the other hand, though, it's not as if the school forced them into a relationship. The two started the relationship (hopefully) without any influence from the school.
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Yeah I was trying to emphasize that I vouched for him.
It may be more of a "should have known" than anything else. But it'll come down the the actual case in court.
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05-20-2010, 02:57 PM
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Looks like they are suing for the so called expulsion. Based on your personal experience in your state, can they do that if they have the father signing a form?
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05-20-2010, 02:58 PM
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Looks like they are suing for the so called expulsion. Based on your personal experience in your state, can they do that if they have the father signing a form?
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You can sue for pretty much anything, whether or not they'll win.. no clue
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05-20-2010, 03:04 PM
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Looks like they are suing for the so called expulsion. Based on your personal experience in your state, can they do that if they have the father signing a form?
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That school is located in the Park Cities (VERY affluent part of Dallas). I doubt that anyone sending his/her child to that school would be duped into signing a document sight unseen.
The family's probably just backpeddling.
(but I'll follow Drolefille's lead and wait for the court case before passing judgement )
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(but I'll follow Drolefille's lead and wait for the court case before passing judgement )
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05-20-2010, 03:32 PM
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Just an FYI, the school's main campus is not located in the Park Cities but it is a very affluent school with many influential parents within the community.
As a former teacher of this age group, young male teachers need to be trained in dealing with the "fairer" sex at this age. Young men with ego issues need not apply. I've seen it all too often.
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05-20-2010, 03:50 PM
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Just an FYI, the school's main campus is not located in the Park Cities but it is a very affluent school with many influential parents within the community.
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Isn't it off Midway between Walnut Hill and Royal? That's right on the edge of HP.
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05-20-2010, 04:43 PM
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Just an FYI, the school's main campus is not located in the Park Cities but it is a very affluent school with many influential parents within the community.
As a former teacher of this age group, young male teachers need to be trained in dealing with the "fairer" sex at this age. Young men or women with ego issues need not apply. I've seen it all too often.
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Fixed that for you given the rash of young female teachers sleeping with their young male students in the past few years.
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