Cuts between rounds

[potential_greek]

Between which rounds are the largest cuts generally made?

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just getting anxious about recruitment. If there is a specific time in which the most cuts are made, I want to kind of prepare myself.

Thanks!

[AOII Angel]

It depends on the group. With RFM, each group gets different release numbers depending on their "recruiting strength." Some groups have to make early cuts to make sure they widdle down the numbers in a reasonable fashion to assure they make quota. Other groups have to keep large numbers of PNMs in order to assure that they have the best chance to show PNMs who they are so that they can make quota. They may not release women until close to preference.

[Benzgirl]

Not all campuses are on RFM, in which case, it completely depends on the chapter.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Not all campuses are on RFM, in which case, it completely depends on the chapter.

True, but most are.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Other groups have to keep large numbers of PNMs in order to assure that they have the best chance to show PNMs who they are so that they can make quota. They may not release women until close to preference.

No group ever HAS to keep any PNMs.

[potential_greek]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

It depends on the group. With RFM, each group gets different release numbers depending on their "recruiting strength." Some groups have to make early cuts to make sure they widdle down the numbers in a reasonable fashion to assure they make quota. Other groups have to keep large numbers of PNMs in order to assure that they have the best chance to show PNMs who they are so that they can make quota. They may not release women until close to preference.

Thank you for this explanation, but I'm kind of confused. Are you saying those that recruit more "strongly" cut more earlier and those that recruit not quite as strongly make bigger cuts late? Or do I have that wrong? lol. Thanks!

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by potential_greek

Thank you for this explanation, but I'm kind of confused. Are you saying those that recruit more "strongly" cut more earlier and those that recruit not quite as strongly make bigger cuts late? Or do I have that wrong? lol. Thanks!

With RFM, those chapters with historically strong return rates are required to release more early.

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by potential_greek

Between which rounds are the largest cuts generally made?

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just getting anxious about recruitment. If there is a specific time in which the most cuts are made, I want to kind of prepare myself.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by potential_greek

Thank you for this explanation, but I'm kind of confused. Are you saying those that recruit more "strongly" cut more earlier and those that recruit not quite as strongly make bigger cuts late? Or do I have that wrong? lol. Thanks!

You truly need to get off the internet and concentrate on your re-rush in progress. Asking questions like this is not going to help you figure out what your "chances" are. There are many more factors than release numbers.

[potential_greek]

Originally Posted by Old_Row

You truly need to get off the internet and concentrate on your re-rush in progress. Asking questions like this is not going to help you figure out what your "chances" are. There are many more factors than release numbers.

I'm not sure why it's not okay to ask questions. I just want to be prepared for any disappointment and knowing when the heaviest cuts happen can assist in that. I'm not trying to figure out my "chances," I just want to emotionally prepare myself. I currently have nothing to do at the moment in regards to recruitment, and I am trying to not go crazy waiting for the next events.

[Titchou]

After round one most groups release all the grade risks, reputation risks and no recs (if they are needed on that campus). That is often the more heavily cut round.

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by potential_greek

I'm not sure why it's not okay to ask questions. I just want to be prepared for any disappointment and knowing when the heaviest cuts happen can assist in that. I'm not trying to figure out my "chances," I just want to emotionally prepare myself. I currently have nothing to do at the moment in regards to recruitment, and I am trying to not go crazy waiting for the next events.

Because your questions are veering closer and closer into membership selection territory and do not have any bearing on your individual situation. Everyone's recruitment situation is different. There's no way to "prepare" yourself based on some kind of magical statistical formula. Get out and try to do something fun to get your mind off things that are out of your control.

Originally Posted by potential_greek

I think I've been unclear. I would be thrilled to get a bid from ANY sorority on campus. In fact, the one I dropped last time is one in which a have many friends. I'm not going by reputation anymore, I have matured past that. Recruitment is currently going on and do far I have still been invited back to a couple in which I could see myself. Assuming I get a bid, And since the start of upperclassmen quotas it's pretty rare not to, I know in which chapters I am most likely to end up. I did not in any way mean for this to turn into an argument or to seem arrogant but I'm guessing that's how you all took it. I apologize.

Those are the houses you currently have left. They can cut you at any time for any reason, even if they don't cut anyone else that round and they haven't cut you up to this point.

[psusue]

Maybe you could do a volunteer project with your free time. Or some crafts (pinterest has some amazing ideas). Or try a new recipe. Or visit with family members you don't see often. Or start a new TV series. Just something to get your mind off of things. I don't mean this to be rude, I just know I can get nervous and over think things and these may be better uses of your time than worrying at this point.

If you must do something recruitment related, pick out your outfits for the next rounds or try to start friendly conversations with people when you're out and about. Figure out a new cute way to do your hair. Or just put on some music and dance around for awhile. Something. I know recruitment is anxiety producing, but you can't let it take over your whole mind. Best of luck to you.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

No group ever HAS to keep any PNMs.

Technically they do if they want any NMs. I never said that Panhellenic makes them keep PNMs. If you are a weak recruiting chapter, you "have" to keep more girls in order to have a sufficient number of PNMs to make it through recruitment and have NMs on bid day when compared to more strongly recruiting chapters. I'm not getting into CPC forcing chapters to keep PNMs they don't want, which I think is bogus.

[DubaiSis]

My first thought was oh my god she's back again.

Assume you will feel cuts evenly through the entire process of rush.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Technically they do if they want any NMs. I never said that Panhellenic makes them keep PNMs. If you are a weak recruiting chapter, you "have" to keep more girls in order to have a sufficient number of PNMs to make it through recruitment and have NMs on bid day when compared to more strongly recruiting chapters. I'm not getting into CPC forcing chapters to keep PNMs they don't want, which I think is bogus.

She means that if a group looks at the pool of girls going through rush and says "yuck. They all suck." they are allowed to cut every single one of them. Of course, it's going to be uber fun explaining this to your nationals.