Why not 2 forums - Women Alumnae Initiation and Men Alumni Initiation

PhiRhoSister · #1 07-25-2006, 10:33 AM

I did not read all of the posts in the "Petition for new moderator for Alumni Initiation Forum," but wouldn't it be easier to just have 2 separate forums. One forum for Women Alumnae Initiation, with at least 1 moderator from a NPC group. One forum for Men Alumni Initiation with the present moderators of the Alumni Initiation forum.

This could solve the problem of moderators and the different aspects of women's AI and men's AI. It might also encourage more men to consider AI, since they could actually find AI stories from other men instead of weeding through all the women AI stories. Just a thought.

tunatartare · #2 07-25-2006, 10:37 AM

We have only had one man so far who has pursued alumni initiation. It is less common in fraternities. Creating a separate forum for it would probably just end up being a waste of space and John's time.

Drolefille · #3 07-25-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiRhoSister

I did not read all of the posts in the "Petition for new moderator for Alumni Initiation Forum," but wouldn't it be easier to just have 2 separate forums. One forum for Women Alumnae Initiation, with at least 1 moderator from a NPC group. One forum for Men Alumni Initiation with the present moderators of the Alumni Initiation forum.

This could solve the problem of moderators and the different aspects of women's AI and men's AI. It might also encourage more men to consider AI, since they could actually find AI stories from other men instead of weeding through all the women AI stories. Just a thought.

Ditto to KLPDaisy, but I'm not sure that a lot of Fraternities actually AI.

I think if there was a large male interest then we'd be hearing more about it.

Jen · #4 07-25-2006, 12:20 PM

Or no forum at all for AI?

Drolefille · #5 07-25-2006, 01:05 PM

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Or no forum at all for AI?

I think there's enough interest in the AI forum. Look how many PNAMs there are, and there are a lot of alum issues such as advising, running chapters, etc. that should be seperate from that I think.

It really does seem that both forums work fine, why fix what ain't broke.

SmartBlondeGPhB · #6 07-25-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

It really does seem that both forums work fine, why fix what ain't broke.

It is broke and has been for a LONG time.

Drolefille · #7 07-25-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SmartBlondeGPhB

It is broke and has been for a LONG time.

I don't think it's any more "broken" than any other area of this forum. It's open to discussion. The PNAMs seem to be doing alright and getting generally good advice. A mod should step in when fights break out, but there aren't a lot here.

What's broke about it?

blueangel · #8 07-25-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SmartBlondeGPhB

It is broke and has been for a LONG time.

It isn't broken despite the attempts by some of you to break it.

Drolefille · #9 07-25-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

It isn't broken despite the attempts by some of you to break it.

Hey, lets not make it a fight over here too.

I agree with you blueangel, the thing is, I don't think John is going to change anything because of what is said in any of these threads.

/personal attacks are dumb no matter who uses them...

valkyrie · #10 07-25-2006, 01:26 PM

Here's what's good about the AI forum the way it is -- people post all kinds of crazy and/or inappropriate shit in here. Why would anybody want to stop them? Isn't it better if everybody knows about this before they're initiated?

blueangel · #11 07-25-2006, 01:31 PM

It is not a personal attack.. it is fact. There is a small group on Greek Chat who have tried (and failed) to

1. get Tom removed as moderator

and failing that

2. get rid of the AI boards

They failed last year, and now, because we have a group of very happy PNAI's.. are trying to sabotage the boards again this year. That is the only reason that train wreck of a thread was resurrected.

Drolefille · #12 07-25-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

Here's what's good about the AI forum the way it is -- people post all kinds of crazy and/or inappropriate shit in here. Why would anybody want to stop them? Isn't it better if everybody knows about this before they're initiated?

What kinds of wild and crazy/inappropriate shit? Inappropriate should get modded no matter what forum it's in... but you're saying there's more inaccurate info HERE than in the Rush threads? At least AI is the same for each sorority nationwide as opposed to different for every single chapter.

If I post something inaccurate, someone else comes in and corrects me... a mod isn't going to necessarily have any better idea on the correction especially if they're not in my chapter.

I demand 26 NPC mods!! Even from the ones that don't AI, just so they can tell us that they don't AI.

Mods should not be the keepers of information, that isn't their job. They aren't researchers they're moderators. They shouldn't even necessarily be correcting incorrect info. That's not a mod specific job.

tunatartare · #13 07-25-2006, 01:32 PM

Umm some of the people who want to add another moderator are AI's, I don't think they're trying to sabotage anything.

valkyrie · #14 07-25-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

What kinds of wild and crazy/inappropriate shit? Inappropriate should get modded no matter what forum it's in... but you're saying there's more inaccurate info HERE than in the Rush threads? At least AI is the same for each sorority nationwide as opposed to different for every single chapter.

Well, it's really a personal opinion, I think. There are some things that PNAMs have posted that had me thinking OMGWTF I can't believe this person posted that; or wow, that's really inappropriate or Too Much Information. I don't want to mention anybody by name -- and the thing is, I really don't want that stuff to be moderated. If somebody thinks it's okay to post something that I consider inappropriate, I say have at it. There's a good chance that sort of thing will affect someone's pursuit of AI, and I think that's a good thing.

Drolefille · #15 07-25-2006, 02:10 PM

Yeah, though I always hope that a sorority will not drop someone because of a message board comment. Short of XYZ sucks because they're ugly.. or something like that...

Regardless, I think that generally those who post in the AI forums are straightfoward and at least moderately knowledgeable and the PNAMs seem like they get mostly good advice, even when that advice is "go ask somewhere else"

I dont think the forum needs a "pledge mom" just like I don't think ANY of the forums need mommies. It's kind of like wikipedia. We self correct most of the inaccurate info.