The 2008 presidential field at-a-glance - Page 9

nittanyalum · #**121** 01-31-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

CBS Radio just reported that Mitt has a media buy for this up coming week in the 7 figures.

Holy crap (pun intended). Just think what that kind of money could do in New Orleans/the Gulf Coast or in other similarly needed demographics... it's obnoxious (and I know it's not only him -- the whole process is a gaudy, wasteful, disgraceful mess).

AGDee · #**122** 01-31-2008, 08:48 PM

I think things like the primaries/caucuses and the electoral college made sense before we had the type of communication and instant results that we have today. Why not just have all the primaries and caucuses on the same day throughout the whole country a few weeks before the conventions? Why are we dragging it out this long? It will be pretty much be decided on Super Tuesday and then we have 9 long months of campaigning one on one. What a nightmare!

jon1856 · #**123** 01-31-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Holy crap (pun intended). Just think what that kind of money could do in New Orleans/the Gulf Coast or in other similarly needed demographics... it's obnoxious (and I know it's not only him -- the whole process is a gaudy, wasteful, disgraceful mess).

Well, while they did not give figures, story also said that Barack is running media in 20 of the 22 states while Hilary currently has media buys in less than 15.

jon1856 · #**124** 01-31-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

I think things like the primaries/caucuses and the electoral college made sense before we had the type of communication and instant results that we have today. Why not just have all the primaries and caucuses on the same day throughout the whole country a few weeks before the conventions? Why are we dragging it out this long? It will be pretty much be decided on Super Tuesday and then we have 9 long months of campaigning one on one. What a nightmare!

Agree. Or as posted before 10 mini-super Tuesdays.
And just think of the nine months of dirt...........

UGAalum94 · #**125** 01-31-2008, 09:59 PM

I think the only ads that I've seen are Obama ads.

AGDee · #**126** 01-31-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Agree. Or as posted before 10 mini-super Tuesdays.
And just think of the nine months of dirt...........

I figure, if we already have people dropping out after only a handful of states have had primaries that even 10 mini-super Tuesdays wouldn't work. After two weeks of it, then 10 states would have had their primaries and people would still drop out at that point if they weren't doing well.

Drolefille · #**127** 01-31-2008, 10:34 PM

Then small states wouldn't get any attention or their needs/wants addressed at all.

Just like whole Super Tuesday thing is an example of people getting too clever for themselves "We'll all be relevant at ONCE!" Actually if anything the states after Super Tuesday may decide it. I don't think the Democratic nomination will be over on Tuesday. Unless it's a landslide it'll be too close to call.

jon1856 · #**128** 02-01-2008, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

I figure, if we already have people dropping out after only a handful of states have had primaries that even 10 mini-super Tuesdays wouldn't work. After two weeks of it, then 10 states would have had their primaries and people would still drop out at that point if they weren't doing well.

In many ways true.
However, at least the populations of at least 10 or 20 states would have a say rather than one or two.

GeekyPenguin · #**129** 02-01-2008, 01:18 AM

The Obama media buy in the Twin Cities was insane - I can't have the radio or TV on for more than five minutes without hearing/seeing him.

Drolefille · #**130** 02-03-2008, 03:48 PM

http://www.dipdive.com/

I wish that this^ video would be played during the Superbowl. Too bad it's too long for that. When it boils down to it, this is why me, and people like me, want Obama. Because he's giving us hope that politics and our country can be more than Us vs. the world and Red vs. Blue. No one's expecting it to happen over night, but it's been a long time since we've had someone pointing us in that direction at all.

LeslieAGD · #**131** 02-03-2008, 04:05 PM

I think Obama shot himself in the foot by saying at the CNN debate that he believes driver's licenses should be issued to undocumented immigrants. Although he was likely trying to appeal to Latino primary voters, I don't think he's going to win much favor with that kind of policy.

Drolefille · #**132** 02-03-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

I think Obama shot himself in the foot by saying at the CNN debate that he believes driver's licenses should be issued to undocumented immigrants. Although he was likely trying to appeal to Latino primary voters, I don't think he's going to win much favor with that kind of policy.

I don't know, I think I agree with him.
As of now they're driving without a license or insurance. They haven't been tested.
Let them get licensed, which requires proof of insurance, and you reduce the likelihood that the next guy who smashes into your car is uninsured. There are many people here who, other than being here, don't have a wish to break laws and would rather have a license and insurance.

It doesn't solve the immigration issue, but it's not meant to. It's designed to address a concrete problem now while working on an immigration solution.

Sadfly · #**133** 02-03-2008, 05:18 PM

Well, I've already voted because I can't get to the poll before they close on Tuesday. I know that the rest of my family are staunch Republications but that's their decision. I don't tell them who I vote for, no matter the election, because it's always the opposite of who they voted for. They start talking politics and I leave the room.

Significant Other voted for McCain..not because he's the best choice, SO is afraid of Huckabee. So am I.

Interesting that the only signs I've seen in the neighborhood are 1 each for Ron Paul, Romney and Huckabee.

jon1856 · #**134** 02-03-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

I don't know, I think I agree with him.
As of now they're driving without a license or insurance. They haven't been tested.
Let them get licensed, which requires proof of insurance, and you reduce the likelihood that the next guy who smashes into your car is uninsured. There are many people here who, other than being here, don't have a wish to break laws and would rather have a license and insurance.

It doesn't solve the immigration issue, but it's not meant to. It's designed to address a concrete problem now while working on an immigration solution.

Part of me agrees while part of me disagrees.
Remember-a drivers' license is not a right, it is a privilege.
Also, licenses were a part of "security" even before 9/11.
And one hears of too many people driving "naked" without insurance or just under-insured; either against the law or because it is not mandatory in a given state.
And would all "undocumented immigrants" really want to spend any time with an officer of the law?

scbelle · #**135** 02-03-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

I don't know, I think I agree with him.
As of now they're driving without a license or insurance. They haven't been tested.
Let them get licensed, which requires proof of insurance, and you reduce the likelihood that the next guy who smashes into your car is uninsured. There are many people here who, other than being here, don't have a wish to break laws and would rather have a license and insurance.

It doesn't solve the immigration issue, but it's not meant to. It's designed to address a concrete problem now while working on an immigration solution.

Precisely. Which is why he also said almost in the same breath that if we're able to pass comprehensive immigration reform, the driver's license issue will be a moot point.

I happen to agree with him as well. It is a public safety issue. It's not an ideal solution, but there aren't many of those in politics.