Mary Kay - Watch Out!

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by staffies
I am a male MK consultant and the reason we don't sell in stores is so that the company can offer great prizes.

Ummm....that makes no sense.
They sell Clinique in stores (a product line that I think is ISHT, but whatever), and they always have those "Buy $25.00 worth, get this makeup bag of treats free" promos going on. Same with Estee Lauder, Shiseido, etc.

Being in stores or not being in stores has nothing to do with being able to offer great prizes/gifts/promos.

And I'm sorry...if I want a lipstick or mascara, I want to buy it and take it home with me, not wait a week for it. I also like being able to buy something anonymously, not talk to some consultant.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by CutiePie2000
Ummm....that makes no sense.
They sell Clinique in stores (a product line that I think is ISHT, but whatever), and they always have those "Buy $25.00 worth, get this makeup bag of treats free" promos going on. Same with Estee Lauder, Shiseido, etc.

Being in stores or not being in stores has nothing to do with being able to offer great prizes/gifts/promos.

And I'm sorry...if I want a lipstick or mascara, I want to buy it and take it home with me, not wait a week for it. I also like being able to buy something anonymously, not talk to some consultant.

I think he means prizes to the sales force (not the customer)...........

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Beryana
And the fact that NO ONE asked her to share her opinion!

Wait, we have to be asked to share our opinions here?

[ilddd3]

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
I think he means prizes to the sales force (not the customer)...........

If he meant the sales force, then it is the same with any of the counters in a cosmetic department. Most of the staff earn free product based upon what they sell. They also go to trainings where get samples and testers to try. I loved it when my aunt worked for several different counters, I always got to see the new things early and usually got my product for free as she had so much "credit" so to speak that she could cover her product and mine.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
I think he means prizes to the sales force (not the customer)...........

Yes, because none of those people schlocking behind the counter at Clinique, Estee Lauder, MAC, Elizabeth Arden, Guerlain, Shiseido, Prescriptives, etc. get *ANY* commission or bonuses AT ALL based on how much product they move. Yeah, they sell the stuff out of the goodness of their own heart.

WHATEVER.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by ilddd3
If he meant the sales force, then it is the same with any of the counters in a cosmetic department. Most of the staff earn free product based upon what they sell. They also go to trainings where get samples and testers to try. I loved it when my aunt worked for several different counters, I always got to see the new things early and usually got my product for free as she had so much "credit" so to speak that she could cover her product and mine.

Do they get cars and trips?

[kddani]

Do they "invest" hundreds or even thousands of dollars in their own money? Do they have to pay fees for seminars, books, etc.? Do they alienate their friends by sending stuff to their homes and calling constantly?

[judsiekitty]

I have been reading a lot of negative things about multi-level marketing. All companies are not using "pyramid schemes" in direct sales. It is a perfectly legitimate form of getting products to customers without the high costs of distributing, advertising, and retailing. I personally own an Arbonne business that allows me to share products with other people that will allow them to live longer healthier lives. I do not push products on my recruits and this is not a pyramid because the I really do spend time giving them valuable training so they can successfully replace their income by working from home. The real pyramid schemes are the corporations. Hello, the CEO is making money off of thousands of peoples work...not to mention it's a good ole boy network. You don't get ahead in the corporate world by working hard. You get ahead by kissing major butt.
I am not pushy at all. I just really believe the products will help people so it's natural for me to talk to people about them.
I think the key to MLM is to find products that you really believe in and love. Don't people recommend their favorite TV shows, songs, stores, foods, restaurants, etc..., to others all the time. Why shouldn't I get paid for being a walking advertisement?

[33girl]

This thread needs to die like Gene Pitney. As a matter of fact, this thread should have died ages ago so Gene Pitney could have lived.

[judsiekitty]

Sorry. I'm new so I didn't realize how long the thread had been going

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by 33girl
This thread needs to die like Gene Pitney. As a matter of fact, this thread should have died ages ago so Gene Pitney could have lived.

But some of us are having SO MUCH FUN getting a rise out of the MK-Faithful, don't you see? (looking for the emoticon with the devil horns).

And I had to google Gene Pitney, since I didn't know who the French Connection U.K. Gene Pitney was. A compatriot of the great Burt, I see.

[kddani]

Originally posted by 33girl
This thread needs to die like Gene Pitney. As a matter of fact, this thread should have died ages ago so Gene Pitney could have lived.

But then random multi level marketing people couldn't join GC just to post in this thread, and then PM people trying to recruit them!

[wrigley]

Originally posted by judsiekitty
I personally own an Arbonne business that allows me to share products with other people that will allow them to live longer healthier lives.

Please share the stats where your products have been proven to do just that. Have these findings ever been published in the New England Journal of Medicine?

[judsiekitty]

Not that I am aware of. I recently read a book called "the Maker's Diet" by Jordan Rubin and saw a film called "do no harm..." and, after my personal experiences with doctors, do not really have a lot of faith in the medical establishment at this time. I'm not saying that doctors are bad people. It's just that most of them have been trained to give us drugs. I was battling Chronic Fatigue Syndrome when I read the book by Jordan and his incredible story about having almost died from Chrone's Disease in his early 20's. He goes to our church as well so it's common knowledge that his story is true. He tried regular doctors, alternative medicines and remedies for years and almost died. His diet is awesome and healthy and I have lost 15 pounds because it helped me get over my chronic fatigue syndrome. This lead to me look for healthier alternatives for make-up, shampoo, deodorant and more, which lead me to this company. Period. Is my company the only one that offers these products? Absolutely not. You can get them wherever you want...but you should get skincare and cosmetics from a company that does not use mineral oils (from crude oil) and that does not base their formulas on chemicals.
I highly recommend the book, which is based on the Old Testament...and in no way profit from its sales ladies

[judsiekitty]

Oh, I did forget the nanosphere technology that we use in our skin care and supplements. This technology breaks down elements to their molecular level to ensure they can be delivered to the places they need to go. So, using it in vitamin supplements ensures that half of them don't end up in your toilet and can be delivered at a cellular level.
I'm sure there is something about nanosphere technology or nanotechnology in the New England Journal of Medicine since it is such a huge breakthrough.