Minority members of IFC and Panhellenic - Page 9

Taualumna · #1 04-04-2005, 01:59 AM

So do some of you want me to apologize for what I've posted?

starang21 · #2 04-04-2005, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
So do some of you want me to apologize for what I've posted?

lol, hell naw.....you would apologize? hmmmm...for what?

navane · #3 04-04-2005, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by epchick
Exactly!!!

What I don't think is that people are grasping the full idea of a "cultural organization." Sure, when you first hear or see those words you think (just as I do) of a group of people, who are predominantly the same race, coming together to celebrate that race. Just like my dance group, which is ballet folklorico (or mexican folk dancing) would be considered a "cultural organization." But that is where it all stops....it doesn't seem like a lot of people can get past the fact that a sorority IS a cultural organization.

But from what I've read on this thread most people are saying something to the effect of "oh a black or hispanic sorority would be a cultural organization, but not a "white" sorority." But you all have not explained why a "white" sorority would not be considered "cultural." Like I stated before, EVERYONE has a culture....EVERYONE! So that means that every single "white" person has a heritage, a culture. So when 30-40 girls come together, especially if they are predominantly the same race, they in effect become a sort of "cultural organization."

Just because your sorority does not EXPLICIT state that you are to "help the white community" (or something to that effect) doesn't exempt you. Just because your philanthropy doesn't encompass a certain race, doesn't mean jack.

A "white" person is not different from a "black" person or from a "hispanic" person. Like I've said numerous times, they all have a culture that they come from. So with that being said, you CAN NOT say that a "white sorority" is different than a "black" or "hispanic" sorority, but the latter are "cultural organizations" and the white sorority isn't.

that is why I said Tri Delta COULD be construed as a "cultural organization" just for the fact that "white" people are not excluded from having a culture

So yeah..sorry i know i sounded redundant...but oh well.

Great post.

<------ I'm white and I get it.

.....Kelly

koshergirl · #4 04-04-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS

If it was a general post aimed at the original topic...okay. [/B]

You get it DST CHAOS, thanks

osutennisguy04 · #5 04-04-2005, 11:12 AM

i just went through a situation dealing with this...i had a lot to think about...im african american and i decided the best fraternity for me was Phi Gamma Delta (FIJI), it was hard dealing with family and friends who thought that i should have joined my fathers fraternity Phi Beta Sigma...but i know that i have made the best decision for myself

Taualumna · #6 04-04-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by starang21
lol, hell naw.....you would apologize? hmmmm...for what?

Because some people find my posts insulting?

DSTCHAOS · #7 04-04-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by navane

Great post.

<------ I'm white and I get it.

.....Kelly

LOL!!!

<----I'm black and I get it, too.

DSTCHAOS · #8 04-04-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by osutennisguy04
i just went through a situation dealing with this...i had a lot to think about...im african american and i decided the best fraternity for me was Phi Gamma Delta (FIJI), it was hard dealing with family and friends who thought that i should have joined my fathers fraternity Phi Beta Sigma...but i know that i have made the best decision for myself

I love FIJIs.

DSTCHAOS · #9 04-04-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
Because some people find my posts insulting?

What did you post that was insulting?

You already explained what you meant about the Asian markets, although I understood what you meant in the first place.

Taualumna · #10 04-04-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
What did you post that was insulting?

You already explained what you meant about the Asian markets, although I understood what you meant in the first place.

You seemed shocked that I said that Asian supermarkets weren't "clean" (based on the smilies)

starang21 · #11 04-04-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
Because some people find my posts insulting?

you're truly oblivious, huh?

DSTCHAOS · #12 04-04-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
You seemed shocked that I said that Asian supermarkets weren't "clean" (based on the smilies)

I didn't even respond to your post on the Asian markets.

So, you mean OTHER PEOPLE were shocked. You already addressed that. What do you want to apologize for now?

ladygreek · #13 04-04-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by koshergirl
You seemed to have completely missed my point, which is obvious by your reply. Perhaps you should go back and read it again. Oh and thanks for your response, it is always good to learn something new...providing you don't get too "testy" about it. (yikes!)

*proud to be a Junior Leaguer too

I missed YOUR point? You were the one getting all defensive about being Black and Jewish, and wanting to just have fun with your lifelong sisters. I merely replied that no one was stopping you from doing that.

So yeah, now I am

Taualumna · #14 04-04-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS

I didn't even respond to your post on the Asian markets.

So, you mean OTHER PEOPLE were shocked. You already addressed that. What do you want to apologize for now?

Oops...I meant ladygreek. She responded to my post with the smilies.

AKA_Monet · #15 04-04-2005, 10:06 PM

There is a club on the campus where I work where the children from multi-racial and multi-ethnic families are going to politically "redefine" themselves... Test all the "theories" of the "census application boxes" and be outside the box.

Well, that's cool and should be supported, especially in a place such as the United States.

How well will is go over with the current socio-political climate here, who knows?

However, ladies of the Divine Four is that we are going to have to "remarket", "retool", "revise" and "redesign" how we might attract new members with so many children coming up in here bitchin' and moanin' about our existence and validity...

I have experienced the illogical conclusions made as observed from GC from others in my own city who have made no attempt to know about what we all do in the community...

We may primarily serve the African American community, however there are parts of life that extend beyond race, class and ethnicity...

I find that once the NPHC sororities develop partnerships with corporate organizations--i.e. Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. has a partnership with DaimlerChrysler and Pillsbury, the CEO's, CFO's and VP's start watching what we are doing and blown away by our resourcefulness...

On a college campus that observation is not seen and is actually a retaliation of authority...

What is takes to change that mentality is when we all have those monster events--i.e. Deb Balls, Beautillions, Fundraisers, hey, even Regional Conferences and International Meetings, etc. A few tickets need to be given to the very kids questioning our existence... Then let us see what they say...

I think they will have a completely different view after experiencing the awe and wonder we constantly experience when we go to these things... I know I did when I became a member of my Sorority... I know once hateful folks were blown away after witnessing the Regional Conference Public Meeting...

There needs to be that kind of interaction made between all of us...