Conduct Becoming of A Sorority Girl

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by OTW

I have to disagree with this. If a sister gets pregnant, she should be given a choice -- have the option to stay a collegian or opt for alumna status. 99.99999% of the time she'll choose alumna status, but simply ASKING her to go alum is unfair, IMO.

I wasn't at this Convention, but a sister once told me about the business meeting that included a very heated discussion about pregnant members. Naturally the traditionalists favored automatically changing her status to alum and the liberals favored giving her a choice. It was a very sensitive topic and lots of sisters were hurt regardless of the outcome.



Which is why I totally love the whole "NO DRINKS ON THE DANCE FLOOR!" rule many bars/clubs have out here.

Okay...back to your GDI discussion, sorry!

I guess here the issue would be her commitment...I just DON'T see how she could keep the obligations of a sister and raise a child...I mean even some students have a hard time meeting requirements. Much less students with a BABY. Our chapter is too small for deadweight...even if she doesn't mean to be, she is. It would be different if she gave it up for adoption of course.

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

I guess here the issue would be her commitment...I just DON'T see how she could keep the obligations of a sister and raise a child...I mean even some students have a hard time meeting requirements. Much less students with a BABY. Our chapter is too small for deadweight...even if she doesn't mean to be, she is. It would be different if she gave it up for adoption of course.

I agree with you...

But I really think that the membership decision and evaluation of commitment should be totally left up to her...NOT the chapter.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Please let me also apologize for making that rude comment to you about having lower standards. It was heat-of-the-moment anger talking. I'll admit that I'm usually taken aback when people openly use the N word, even when using it as an example of something bad to say. I actually don't believe you have low standards though and I'm sorry I said what I did.

I accept your apology and allow me to proffer my own. What started as a congenial comment ended up in mini flame war and I really didn't intend it to go there. I almost never use the n-word myself and only did so to make my point.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Yes, I will look down on people who use it. Just as I look down on people who use other terms like "JAPS", "n*****s", or any other rude, offensive, condescending words.

Sweet Holy God.....


Did you seriously just place the term "GDI" in the same category as "Nigger"? This is easily one of the most idiotic things I have ever read on this board.


I hope you step in mud........soon.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

I guess here the issue would be her commitment...I just DON'T see how she could keep the obligations of a sister and raise a child...I mean even some students have a hard time meeting requirements. Much less students with a BABY. Our chapter is too small for deadweight...even if she doesn't mean to be, she is. It would be different if she gave it up for adoption of course.

One of the chapters I've worked with has had more than one member with a baby. In fact, both were mothers before they joined the chapter. It depends on the campus, really. This was a commuter campus where all the women lived at home with their parents. The one member I knew well had a lot of support from her parents who, in spite of her mistake early in life, wanted her to still have a "typical" college experience and helped her do that. She was everything BUT dead weight as she was the VPF. She had great grades and, from what I observed, was a good mom. Different chapters require different time commitments.

I was at that Convention, btw.

And, like Susan314, I am from a chapter in Michigan where the non-Greeks touted their GDI status proudly. They called themselves that more than the Greeks did. In fact, my own mother told me that she was a GDI when she was in college and was proud of it.. and she went to college in 1956.

[AOII Angel]

I'm sorry if I've offended you 33girl. You may not find smoking a problem, but many find it to be a dirty habit which is often inflicted on those who do not smoke. I have no problem with smokers who are considerate of others. Pick up you cigarette butts and don't pollute an enclosed room. The culture of the campus dictates many of these rules. Sigma Kappa who is no longer on our campus actually required members to be sitting to smoke. Girls would go sit on the toilet in bars in order to smoke. Pretty funny if you ask me, but it's their rule. The drinking while dancing issue may seem silly to you, but it is very unladylike to slosh your drink around while dancing...possibly soiling someone else's clothes or shoes. Don't tell me that you have infinite control of the path of spilled alcohol from you glass as you swing around in a tipsy haze after one too many. The average college student would not. Lastly, if your sorority's creed or ritual has not changed you or made you more aware of you actions, then what is the point? Sororities are for a lifetime not because they give you a steady stream of drinking and smoking buddies but because they teach you to live by a standard. These standards may not specifically address drinking and smoking, but I'm quite sure most address presenting a good example to others, being considerate of your fellow man and not reflecting poorly on yourself or your organization. My sorority taught me that your actions reflect your character. You never have a second chance to make that first impression. Just like actives are always watching rushees to catch them slip...rushees and the rest of the world are watching you.

[ErinIsBadNews]

Where in the world is the GC member who has Gamma Delta Iota in there signature??? I would've liked to see what their opinion on all this was?

Originally Posted by ErinIsBadNews

Where in the world is the GC member who has Gamma Delta Iota in there signature??? I would've liked to see what their opinion on all this was?

If I'm not mistaken, that'd be GDIfly.

[ErinIsBadNews]

Originally Posted by OTW

If I'm not mistaken, that'd be GDIfly.

Yes! Where are you GDIfly???

[Leslie Anne]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I accept your apology and allow me to proffer my own. What started as a congenial comment ended up in mini flame war and I really didn't intend it to go there. I almost never use the n-word myself and only did so to make my point.

Thanks, Drolefille. Apology accepted. I really didn't intend for it to get so out of hand either, especially with you. I've always enjoyed reading your posts and found it strange that we were arguing.

I almost always rub people the wrong way on message boards, so I'm getting used to be disliked. I'm much nicer in person, honest!

Glad to finally have a truce. Phew! That was exhausting!

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AGDee

One of the chapters I've worked with has had more than one member with a baby. In fact, both were mothers before they joined the chapter. It depends on the campus, really. This was a commuter campus where all the women lived at home with their parents. The one member I knew well had a lot of support from her parents who, in spite of her mistake early in life, wanted her to still have a "typical" college experience and helped her do that. She was everything BUT dead weight as she was the VPF. She had great grades and, from what I observed, was a good mom. Different chapters require different time commitments.

I was at that Convention, btw.

And, like Susan314, I am from a chapter in Michigan where the non-Greeks touted their GDI status proudly. They called themselves that more than the Greeks did. In fact, my own mother told me that she was a GDI when she was in college and was proud of it.. and she went to college in 1956.

My mom went to school in the late 70's and got paddles with the GDI on it
Course I think she was a flirt cause she has a LOT of paddles from guys.
(I know I'm repeating myself but that was a long time ago)

[RHITDeltaGal]

It's interesting to see people think of GDI as a negative term. When I went through recruitment, one of the first things that happened was my RA called all the girls on my floor into a meeting and made sure we were all aware that after preference night, everyone would have "letters" associated with them, whether it be DDD, XO, or GDI. It was never a negative thing on my campus. In fact, the people here joke about it and even hold "GDI" parties and things like that. I think the phrase just depends on where you come from and what you've heard it as.

[UGAalum94]

About members with babies, I think that it might be something that the chapter have general recommendations on based on the campus culture.

On some campuses, it's going to be no big deal, and the group might encourage women to stay active.

On other campuses, and this might seem superficial and wrong, it's likely to cause harm to the chapter in recruitment and reputation, and since it's difficult to imagine on some campuses how a person would handle both obligations well (again, it varies a lot by the campus), maybe a particular chapter could have recommendations that a young pregnant member go alum.

I don't want to see chapters cut people loose when the women most need support and help, but at campuses where greek life is a pretty superficial endeavor of rush, reputation, housing and parties, it's hard to see how staying active would be in anyone's best interest.

Maybe because I don't have kids, I make it out to be a bigger deal than it really is, but once you're a mom, it seems to be that your priorities ought to be different, and at some campuses, staying active would reflect trying to hold on to a lifestyle incompatible with good motherhood.

Ultimately, the final decision should rest with the member, but I do think the chapter should try to have general recommendations in place before the issue comes up.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

My pledge class had at least two already mothers with adorable little boys and one girl who announced that she was pregnant before initiation. In addition to this, at that same time, we had a sister who was well into her "baby bump" within the chapter. While that was an abnormal baby overload at the time, we have had sisters with children in the past, including a 30 year old around 2003 or so with an eight year old. That's not the norm, but it's not unusual and right now we don't have any actives with babies. That's just our way I guess!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

Those "classy" folks? They'll never know what they're missing because they'll never take a chance when it might look bad. I have noooooo time whatsoever for those that trumpet their class.

Those who "trumpet their class" are the antithesis of class.

I akin it this this line: "Those who truly have the right to be arrogant, never are."