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Old 04-14-2021, 12:22 PM
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Depending on your point of view, Kappa Kappa Gamma just caved to pressure or caught up with the group. https://www.kappakappagamma.org/kapp...ypolicychange/

According to the FAQs that follow the announcement, the answer to the question "Does the legacy definition still exist?" is No.

As someone astutely and ruefully noted in the (many) comments on the KKG Facebook page, the highest giving level to the KKG Foundation is still called the Legacy Club at a $1,000,000 level.
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Old 04-14-2021, 12:32 PM
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I bet they'll lose a buttload of donors like Pi Phi did.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:14 PM
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Gamma Phi Beta is no longer giving preferential treatment to legacies, but has formed a committee to look into other ways to acknowledge and celebrate legacies and "legacy makers" (I hate that term - open to suggestions for a better one). I'm on the committee.
https://www.gammaphibeta.org/gpb/00c...tions-Answered
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:57 PM
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You know, I don't think there's any other way they can "celebrate" legacies if they're going to toss out legacy policies.
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Old 04-14-2021, 05:05 PM
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Depending on your point of view, Kappa Kappa Gamma just caved to pressure or caught up with the group. https://www.kappakappagamma.org/kapp...ypolicychange/

According to the FAQs that follow the announcement, the answer to the question "Does the legacy definition still exist?" is No.
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None of these policies will SOLVE our lack of inclusion.

Many little tiny steps make great strides.

Yes, the NPC Inclusion Bandwagon just got a little heavier.

The public relations pronouncements involved, when NPC groups vow to 'rectify' non-inclusion, are as important as any steps being taken to actually vote-in allegedly marginalized PNMs and persons who feel excluded from the NPC Recruitment system.

But I laughed when I read the following sentence within Kappa's Policy Announcement as IMO it was equally true of, and could have been made by, KKG at least 32 years ago: "Today, we firmly believe that an inclusive membership will set us on a path to an even more vibrant sisterhood."

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Old 04-15-2021, 08:09 AM
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Gamma Phi Beta is no longer giving preferential treatment to legacies, but has formed a committee to look into other ways to acknowledge and celebrate legacies and "legacy makers" (I hate that term - open to suggestions for a better one). I'm on the committee.
https://www.gammaphibeta.org/gpb/00c...tions-Answered
"Legacy Maker" sounds a little cringy. Plus a quick google search and the first result for that term is a meat company.

It would be nice to celebrate legacies after recruitment- maybe tied to founders day somehow? Any maybe not even celebrate the colligate but the "legacy maker". maybe a special pin or necklace or something. In my experience it's the Moms that care more than the college student anyway.
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Old 04-15-2021, 04:14 PM
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I love Pi Phi's legacy badge. I hope they continue it.

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Old 04-15-2021, 05:37 PM
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I feel like a lot of us don't ever want to hear from Pi Phi again, much less about any weak attempts they're making to get us to think that they value legacies.
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Old 04-19-2021, 10:07 AM
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I love Pi Phi's legacy badge. I hope they continue it.

I had quite a few sisters who have that badge in my pledge class - and their sisters or mothers were able to come to initiation. The extra bond of sorority sisterhood was beautiful to see. Removing preferential treatment in recruitment doesn't remove that entirely.
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Old 04-19-2021, 12:10 PM
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I expect that even in the groups whose HQs removed legacy preference, the members will still pledge who they want. The HQs are only doing this to look good (in their opinions).
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Old 04-19-2021, 12:35 PM
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I didn't see a post about our announcement, but Alpha Gamma Delta did announce a couple months ago (I think- time flies, etc.) that we've dropped legacy preference policies.
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Old 04-27-2021, 09:49 PM
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https://www.tridelta.org/the-trident...Gdnb9kk305G1TU

Tri Delta has officially eliminated their legacy policy. Before this, it was up to the individual chapter to have it or not, but now nobody can have it.
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Old 04-28-2021, 12:53 AM
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I guess I'm going to go against the hive here (what else is new?). Social fraternities and sororities are exclusive by definition. If you really wanted to be truly inclusive, you'd just have a table with a sign-up sheet for anyone who wanted to join. After a meeting where you explained the costs, you'd get payment from those who were above the GPA threshold and could afford it and welcome them to your pledge class (oops, forgot, calling women "pledges" could be considered to be "hazing").



But wait, what if she can't make the minimum GPA threshold? Are you being ableist by excluding her? What if she can't afford it? Shouldn't you provide her a scholarship? Do we have a level playing field if we exclude those who can't pay dues? Who would want to be in a chapter like that? Over-correction is a thing.
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Old 04-28-2021, 06:10 AM
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All that has been going through my mind. And if the rando who signed up at the table should happen to post some racist rant or make the new members chug a few, the poof! There goes your chapter!
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Old 04-28-2021, 09:04 AM
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I expect that even in the groups whose HQs removed legacy preference, the members will still pledge who they want. The HQs are only doing this to look good (in their opinions).
Yep.

And if there is no policy won’t that just make things like alumnae sending cookies etc go through the stratosphere? Ie like how Congress denying the existence of the mafia makes it impossible to fight the mafia.
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